Originally Posted by gus738
so then i was right its just a style tv for that much money might as well go with pioneer.
Yes, the Pioneer will certainly deliver superior performance for the price (actually, the 9g Elites are the best, regardless of price). That's not to say that the new Samsungs are underperformers, they're definetely no slouches, particularly when compared to a Pioneer-less marketspace. Samsung chose to continue their stylistic approach that began with the touch of color and they certainly have taken it to a different level this year. The edge lit lcd models are undeniably eye catching and slick.
Originally Posted by Spanbauer
We were talking about LED-backlit LCDs vs standard LCDs. While the numbers are obviously exaggerated, there has to be something
there that allows Samsung to label one of it's televisions as 50,000:1 contrast and another 2,000,000:1 contrast.
Well, I was specifically talking about the edge lit models such as the newish luxia line. It's pretty well known that led backlit models that utilize local dimming can fade to complete black when given such a signal (even my old 81F, now nearly 2 generations old, could do this and sported a 500,000:1 contrast ratio). The practical application of local dimming, while still a marked improvement over traditional CCFL backlighting, is less impactful than seeing (or not seeing, I guess?) no light coming from the tv in a dark room. Overall, the contrast ratios that can be reached by these models are impressive. Until recently, they compared favorably with all other models on the market regardless of tech, excluding Pioneer Kuros (which still hold a significant contrast advantage over all competition). Panasonic's latest lineup however, the NeoPDPs, have demonstrated that more than one plasma manufacturer can produce sets with utterly impressive contrast, reclaiming the position of next best. The newer, thinner edge lit models from Samsung still post great numbers, just not quite of the same quality as their higher performing local dimmed cousins.