Paradigm Millenia Owner's Thread - Page 8

Okay my Millenias were delivered a week ago and I have upgraded my receiver. After spending some time with the system and getting a proper setup I would like to provide some very unscientific impressions. First the system:

Denon AVR-5805 Receiver (Dolby Pro Logic IIx 7.1)
Denon DVD-3910 disc player
2 Sony CDP-CX455 400 disc cd jukeboxes
Inday DA4X-RS Digital audio switcher
Camelot Dragon 5.1 Jitter Filter
Perpetual Tech P-1A Digital Processor
Kora Hermes Tube DAC w/ 2 NOS Brimar Longplate 12au7 tubes from 1962
Audioquest cables
Sony KDS-R60XBR1 60" HDTV
2 Paradigm Millenia 300s for front channel
1 Paradigm Millenia 30 for center channel
2 Paradigm Millenia 200s for surround channel
2 Paradigm Millenia 20s for back channel
Paradigm Seismic 12 Subwoofer

A little description of the CD setup- I really like the convenience of the Sony 400 disc changers as I have my entire CD collection in the jukeboxes all controlled by my laptop. To get good sound out of it, I run the digital signal through the Camelot Dragon to remove any jitter from the cheap cd drives, it then goes into the P-1A to further reduce jitter and upconvert the signal to 24bit/96kHz before going into the tube dac. The sound of this setup is amazing- a huge soundstage and razor sharp 3D imaging, and the tubes impart a very warm analog sound. All of these characteristics are heightened by the Millenias.

The 5805 has a system called Audessy that eqs the system based on the room acoustics and sets the speaker levels and subwoofer crossover settings, etc. You connect a mic and take readings with the mic placed at various places where people will be sitting. It works amazingly well and makes setup really easy.

The first impression I get is the amazing detail. Cymbals and snare drums are particularly impressive, especially when played with brushes. The next impression is the size and 3 dimensional impression of the soundstage- the soundstage goes beyond the width of the speakers. I believe this is largely a result of the Hermes dac with the longplate tubes, as this setup is known for this. The bass is very tight and Seismic 12 blends nicely with the Millenias.

Movies also sound great and the Seismic 12 can really shake the room. I haven't really noticed a big advantage with the 7.1 over 5.1, but I have only watched two movies, so far.

I could not be happier with these speakers. They look great and sound amazing- even my girlfriend noticed a big improvement over my previous speakers (JBLs).
Ray

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glennQ

Glenn getting very antz..for these stands.... I want to here my full rears but maybe I'll have a new job by 4-30 ( I got laid off yesterday)

does the 20 come with the platform to use in a shelf as a C/C?

are the 200's video shielded?

Yes. All the Millenia models (except the Millenia ADP) feature MagneShield.

glennQ

Okay, I'm working on putting a system together for my new house. Living room is about 15 x 21 with 9ft ceiling, will have hardwood floors. Just listened to the the Paradigm Millenia 20's for mains and center with a ultracube 10 at the store. The store is quite large, but the sound was amazing (compared with my $400 HTIB). These are just the look we want on the wall - would rather hear to music than see these big speakers taking up floor space.

Question - is this a really good combo? I don't need to get a bigger sub, or change the mains? Later down the road, I plan on adding a pair of ADPs for the rears.

Also, using the 20's as mains, they will also act as front surrounds, right?

thanks for helping a newbie,


DT

Hi I have this setup with a 42PX60 42" plasma on wall . I can tell you that you wont be disappointed , It sounds even better than it looks , its awesome.
Well worth the money . Plays loud and clean.

Hey they will sound great.. If you can afford the extra get the 200's has the fronts.. they are great...

are the 200's wall mountable? The reason I like the 20's is that they look nice and flat mounted on the wall next to my flatscreen tv.

DT

Sorry but no the 200's arent wall mount , but if you want bigger they do have the 30's which are bigger, better I think for 50" plasma

only have a 32" lcd.

I have three Millenia 20s right now as front and center. I have 2 SA-15s that I was planning to use as surrounds, but now I have found 2 200s that were too good a deal to pass up. I would prefer not to have floor speakers because of children. Any thoughts on the pros and cons of using the SA-15s as surrounds with the 20s for fronts as compared to the 20s as surrounds and the 200s as fronts? Will be using a Denon 2807 and a 58 inch plasma. Home theater only. I am very new to all this, so I hope it makes sense.

Hey Vasubandu,
I too was wonder if the 20 are any good as surround. I brought the 20's as center, but i upgraded to CC690 and my dealer wont let me do an exchange, so i stick with a 20. since you already have the 20s, why dont you test it out and let me know how it sound.

thanks, Mike

FYI: Updated Millenia info from Paradigm's April 2, Inventory Status Report.

Millenia stands... May 15

Millenia 20 Trio... April 10

Millenia ADP... April 10


glennQ

I went to the local Paradigm dealer today to audition the Cinema Series on wall's but of course quickly discovered the Millenia 20's they had on display. Found them to sound much better than the cinema series obviously, they didn't have the 30's on display but I'm sure I would have like them even better (just because their bigger and more expensive of course).

Just a quick question regarding the pricing are Paradigm dealers allowed to reduce the price off of MSRP?. I was told the manufacturer didnt allow it. If he is full of it how much of a % can you expect to negotiate down for these speakers? I would be either going with the 20's or 30's for L/C/R

Has anybody listened to them side by side? Are they worth $300 more? Or would I be better of getting a nice sub? Currently I have a 8 year old 10" Velodyne sub from CC, I'm sure I have some room for improvement in that department.

Thanks

I thought some might be interested in this review.
http://www.ecoustics.com/sv/2236

Just a quick question regarding the pricing are Paradigm dealers allowed to reduce the price off of MSRP?. I was told the manufacturer didnt allow it. If he is full of it how much of a % can you expect to negotiate down for these speakers? I would be either going with the 20's or 30's for L/C/R

Has anybody listened to them side by side? Are they worth $300 more? Or would I be better of getting a nice sub? Currently I have a 8 year old 10" Velodyne sub from CC, I'm sure I have some room for improvement in that department.

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Hello I brought my 20's for 20% off. As for 30's they will play alittle louder but not much difference check out the spes. your see they are about the same . I don't think its worth it. I would save the money and buy a better sub.

Does anybody live in the Dallas area? I live in Frisco and per the Paradigm website there is only 1 Paradigm dealer in the whole Dallas area! I just called them and they don't carry the Millenia 20's. This has got to be a mistake considering how large this area is.

Try using some different zip codes from around your area. The Paradigm search feature is quite weak. Using the different zip codes might mean pulling up another dealer close to you.

ok so Are the stands made of Gold, or Trillium This is like waiting for windows Vesta

yea I got about 25% off my 200's

How do you match a receiver to your speakers?

I just oredered a pair of beautiful polished aluminum Millennia 200's as fronts and will pick up a 20 for CC sometime soon. Looking for receivers i found one listed at 110W x 7 RMS, but 140 W x 7 MAX. Which should I go by. Should I tone down the receiver to something like 90/95 W x 7 RMS, because a lot of receivers I see dont list the max WPC. (The 200's are rated at 130 W max input)

I'm looking at Yamahas mostly, but anyone got any suggstions for the 200's?

FYI: Millenia 20 Trio and Millenia ADPs are now shipping.

glennQ

I paired them with the Yamaha RX-v1700 and they do quite well. I may trade up to a 2700 or something else with a little more power though.

I auditioned these with an Anthem amp and they sounded amazing. The Yamaha at 130wpc needs a little more to push them.

If I never heard them with an Anthem they would sound amazing though.

I am pushing 20's and 200's and a Svs sub with the yahamma and feel the same.. Not sure what to look for with a little more power


Where are these damn stands..

My 200's are finally in and look great. Definately more than I originally planned on spending. Thats what creates my dilema

Since I got such great fronts I REALLY want to match them in the rest of the system. I can't afford to use millenia's as surrounds for space and monetary reasons. I still need a sunb as well so I have been looking at other speaker sets. At the top of my list are Def. Tech. MYTHOS Gems satellites, a Def. Tech. ProCinema system, Klipsch RSX-4/5 satellites , and Klipsch Quintet II's.

I'm pretty sure the RSX-4/5 satellites are the only Reference speakers, like the Millenia's,so does that mean they are the only speakers that will match the 200's? If not how well would the other speakers do? I've also heard a lot about timbre matching your speakers and I dont know how you do that.

And what about the Sub? Is it good to buy the speaker sets like the Quintets or ProCinema w/ included sub or is it better to get separate satellites w/ a different sub? I have been looking at Hsu, SVS, and ONix from AV123, mainly the onix x-sub because of the low price.

I would mostly use this system for movies/TV but i would play music from time to time. My room is about 15x20 w/ very high 16 ft cathedral ceiling and an open back wall that leads into my kitchen.