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post #31 of 618
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Originally Posted by Epacy View Post

With the Millenia being reference speakers and the reviews they have gotten so far, I don't think this concept applies as much to these "style" speakers. I have heard reviews of people saying they were very impressed with the Millenia's when listening to them next to the Signature's.

Thanks for the response Epacy. The Millenia seems like a real winner. None of the dealers in my area have them setup for review yet, so hearing that people are impressed with them next to the Signatures says alot. That answers my question on them being an upgrade to the Monitor series.

I'm going to try and restrain my upgrade bug until more of the line is available. I prefer to get a complete system when I purchase. I do hope Paradigm also makes the Millenia ADP's available soon as well.
post #32 of 618
Has anyone compared these to the B&W XT series? Or the Gallo Reference AV speakers? I will be looking at some "slim" speakers shortly. We are a dealer for all 3, but only have the XT on display as of now.
post #33 of 618
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Originally Posted by cameron.garrett View Post

Trying to resolve the issue, I emailed Paradigm's technical support. A few days later I got this response from Gary:

"The Millenia 20 is designed to be used for the left, right or center speaker
and it is already available.
Thanks for choosing Paradigm speakers."

--Cameron

Why did my local dealer look at me stupid for mentioning them for L and R as well as C? "they are designed to only be a center."
I tell ya what I'm getting ill at brick and mortar these days.
any way, to appease stubeeef the idiot, when they get them in he will set the 20's up in a LCR arrangement with a pio 84 for me to listen to. Nothing like an audition with a grudgingly compliant salesman.
post #34 of 618
My local Reference dealer's haven't even HEARD of this line.
To make things even worse, they don't even plan on carrying this line because they BOTH carry Def-Tech and have NO PLANS on having a competitor since they seem to make some serious cash from Def-Tech. One store was willing to call the distributor and the next closest stores are almost 100 miles away!!! I live on the border on Orange County and LA county. NOT in some 2 light town. This is just INSANE!!
post #35 of 618
I wish some of these decent speaker companies had an Internet Direct model.
post #36 of 618
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Originally Posted by aus View Post

Did anyone compare these to the Mythos for music?
I was DEAD SET on getting some Mythos, but they were a little too bright for my taste when it came to music. Female vocals didn't sound as natural when compared to the Monitor Audio's, which is what I ended up ordering. Problem is, it's been 4 weeks now and I'm still waiting for them. Now Paradign comes out with these and I'm thinking of trying these out.
It's interesting that my local shop has Paradigm and Def Tech and then LOVE the Mythos. I called to see if they had the Millennia and was told they don't plan on carrying them since they have the Mythos. Too bad.

I was pretty well set on a DefTech setup including Mythos2/3 LCR and Gem surrounds as they sounded awesome on sound tracks. But, I was never very happy with them with music.

Then I listened to a pair (yup just a pair with no sub) of the Mellenia 20's and was very impressed with what I heard for both music and sound tracks.

What I'm wondering now is if the mythos Gems would work well as surrounds for a set of Millenia 20's up front....
post #37 of 618
Thought this would be a good place to post this question....

I am in the process of putting together a 5.1 channel system and have been looking hard at the new Paradigm Reference Studio v.4 series, and the Millenia Series. My local dealer does not have the Millenias in stock so I am going on my salesmens advice since I can not compare the two directly. My sales rep is strongly encouraging me to go the Studio 20 (Front & Rear), CC-590, and ultracube route (I have a real small room) as opposed to the Millenia 200, 20's (C & R), ultracube setup.

I have been blown away by the new Studio 20's v.4 with the Sig tweeters... an incredible buy for the money, but the dredded WAF has come into play and my girl friend desperately wants the Millenia's.

My question is has anyone compared the Studio 20 vs. the Millenia 200, and how much performance am I giving up for the more "stylish" package? From what my dealer has told me it would be a substantial performance sacrifice if I go the Millenia route. I'm pretty confident that the CC-590 is in anouther league comapred to using a Millenia 20 as a center.

Your feedback would be greatly appreciated!
post #38 of 618
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Originally Posted by ejunior2 View Post

I was pretty well set on a DefTech setup including Mythos2/3 LCR and Gem surrounds as they sounded awesome on sound tracks. But, I was never very happy with them with music.

Then I listened to a pair (yup just a pair with no sub) of the Mellenia 20's and was very impressed with what I heard for both music and sound tracks.

What I'm wondering now is if the mythos Gems would work well as surrounds for a set of Millenia 20's up front....

It's good to know I'm not the only one who felt this way. I just wonder how the Mythos get such stellar reviews in EVERY magazine that reviews them when it comes to music, possibly all those pages of advertisement?????
post #39 of 618
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by brich436 View Post

Thought this would be a good place to post this question....
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My question is has anyone compared the Studio 20 vs. the Millenia 200, and how much performance am I giving up for the more "stylish" package? From what my dealer has told me it would be a substantial performance sacrifice if I go the Millenia route. I'm pretty confident that the CC-590 is in anouther league comapred to using a Millenia 20 as a center.

Haven't compared them, but I bet part of what the dealer is pushing you towards is the more expensive Studios. I would not say there would be a "substantial performance sacrifice" by going with the Millenia. Again, more dealer talk. The bit about the CC is probably mostly true. However, Paradigm is releasing more models in the Millenia series and they are realeasing a dedicated CC, called the 20 Trio. Has something like 8-9 speakers in it. Looks awesome!!
post #40 of 618
Anymore info on this center channel?
post #41 of 618
From what my dealer has told me, the Millenia 20 Trio is designed to be a left, center, and right channel speaker built into one. Hence the reason it is extremely long, and there are three tweeters built in to it.
post #42 of 618
Quote "Haven't compared them, but I bet part of what the dealer is pushing you towards is the more expensive Studios. I would not say there would be a "substantial performance sacrifice" by going with the Millenia. Again, more dealer talk. The bit about the CC is probably mostly true."

The difference in cost between the Studio set up vs. the Millenia set up is about $100, so I don't think they're stearing my in that direction for a larger sale.

Anyone else out there who's auditioned the Studio 20's v.4 vs. the Millenia 200's?
post #43 of 618
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by brich436 View Post

The difference in cost between the Studio set up vs. the Millenia set up is about $100, so I don't think they're stearing my in that direction for a larger sale.

You telling me that between a 5.1 set of Studios and a 5.1 set of Millenias, the difference is only $100? I doubt that.
post #44 of 618
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Originally Posted by Epacy View Post

You telling me that between a 5.1 set of Studios and a 5.1 set of Millenias, the difference is only $100? I doubt that.

Studio 20 @ $899/ pair X 2 + Studio CC-590 @ $899 = $2,697

Millenia 200 @ $1,198 /pair + Millenia 20 @ $499 X 3 = $2,695

$2 difference. All MSRP of course.

I'm going with the Ultracube 10 sub with either system.

Regards
post #45 of 618
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by brich436 View Post

Studio 20 @ $899/ pair X 2 + Studio CC-590 @ $899 = $2,697

Millenia 200 @ $1,198 /pair + Millenia 20 @ $499 X 3 = $2,695

$2 difference. All MSRP of course.

I'm going with the Ultracube 10 sub with either system.

Regards

Studio 20's for the fronts? Wow.
Went back and read your first post. Didn't realize you were putting 20's as your front speakers.
post #46 of 618
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Originally Posted by Epacy View Post

Studio 20's for the fronts? Wow.
Went back and read your first post. Didn't realize you were putting 20's as your front speakers.

Yeah, I"m going with the 20's up front as my viewing position is only about 7 feet from my display, and my room is very small about 11 X 17. The larger floor standers would over power my viewing room.
post #47 of 618
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Originally Posted by brich436 View Post

I have been blown away by the new Studio 20's v.4 with the Sig tweeters... an incredible buy for the money, but the dredded WAF has come into play and my girl friend desperately wants the Millenia's.

Now if you have your own dedicated room elsewhere, or if this was your wife, I can understand. But, your girlfriend is dictating speaker choices? Whose money is it again? Thought so. I gotta be harsh about this.. grow a pair. She'll get used to the look, even if she complains for a little while - I'm sure you've endured worse. After that dies down, you'll have the speakers you want without any problems. Get the Studios and enjoy. Just my humble opinion, of course.
post #48 of 618
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Originally Posted by Lindahl View Post

Now if you have your own dedicated room elsewhere, or if this was your wife, I can understand. But, your girlfriend is dictating speaker choices? Whose money is it again? Thought so. I gotta be harsh about this.. grow a pair. She'll get used to the look, even if she complains for a little while - I'm sure you've endured worse. After that dies down, you'll have the speakers you want without any problems. Get the Studios and enjoy. Just my humble opinion, of course.

You're right. It's my $.

She really hated it when I had a pair of huge Martin Logan towers!
post #49 of 618
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Originally Posted by Epacy View Post

Studio 20's for the fronts? Wow.
Went back and read your first post. Didn't realize you were putting 20's as your front speakers.

Epacy, Hi, I am trying to match a reference sub to the Millenia. My dealer is telling me to buy the pdr 10, because I am in a Condo. The reviews of the Seismic I read were in 14x17 rooms. My room is 19x20 with vaulted ceilings. Is the Seismic 12 too much for that room? Is the Seismic 12 too much for the Millenia? I will be using a Denon 2807 receiver and Denon Ipod dock. My point is that I would rather stay in the Reference line os Subs with the Reference Millenia. I don't understand all this. I would rather pay more for a better sub and better sound, however, I would also like to NOT be asked to vacate the premises because my sub is wreaking havoc on the neighbors.. Thanks, Michael
post #50 of 618
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Originally Posted by mstain View Post

Epacy, Hi, I am trying to match a reference sub to the Millenia. My dealer is telling me to buy the pdr 10, because I am in a Condo. The reviews of the Seismic I read were in 14x17 rooms. My room is 19x20 with vaulted ceilings. Is the Seismic 12 too much for that room? Is the Seismic 12 too much for the Millenia? I will be using a Denon 2807 receiver and Denon Ipod dock. My point is that I would rather stay in the Reference line os Subs with the Reference Millenia. I don't understand all this. I would rather pay more for a better sub and better sound, however, I would also like to NOT be asked to vacate the premises because my sub is wreaking havoc on the neighbors.. Thanks, Michael

Just my $.02 but I listened to the Seismic 12 and it's little cousin the Ultracube 10. I have to say that the Ultracube provided some nice performance from a very small enclosure, and was pretty close to the Seismic. My budget is more in line with the Ultracube.

If $ is not an issue I would definatley go with the Seismic 12 and just control the bass output via your AVR or the level controls on the sub.
post #51 of 618
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by mstain View Post

Epacy, Hi, I am trying to match a reference sub to the Millenia. My dealer is telling me to buy the pdr 10, because I am in a Condo. The reviews of the Seismic I read were in 14x17 rooms. My room is 19x20 with vaulted ceilings. Is the Seismic 12 too much for that room? Is the Seismic 12 too much for the Millenia? I will be using a Denon 2807 receiver and Denon Ipod dock. My point is that I would rather stay in the Reference line os Subs with the Reference Millenia. I don't understand all this. I would rather pay more for a better sub and better sound, however, I would also like to NOT be asked to vacate the premises because my sub is wreaking havoc on the neighbors.. Thanks, Michael

I was initially going with the ultracube 10 as well but was concerned about filling my room. It is 17x21 with vaulted ceilings and a somewhat open floorplan to other rooms. I upgraded to the Seismic 12 and have been very pleased. The sub is very solid. I am in a house though, and when I went to the basement I could hear the sub through the floor. However, in an apartment setting, the ceilings are finished and would provide some level of dampening. You might have problems with the Seismic in an apartment, but you could try elevating the sub on a small platform, which wouuld give you better response and hopefully diminish some of the floor shaking.
post #52 of 618
Servo-15.
post #53 of 618
Hi all,
ordered yesterday a pair of 200 and a Ultracube 12" for the livingroom and a pair of 20th for the dining room.
Two channel for the start and in the very next time it will be completed to 5.1

Best
Armin
post #54 of 618
Epacy, Brich, Thank You for the feedback. I pulled the trigger today on Mileenia 200's in front , Millenia 200's rear, and the 20 CC. I did not go with the Millenia ADP, or ADP 590 for surrounds because 1. I have a very open room that would require the 20's to be on stands, and 2. The Millenia ADP, and the Millenia 300 were not even in the price book and specs my dealer received just last week. If you add the price of the 20's and stands, they are just shy of the price of the 200's. He says he doubts the 300 line made it to market. I also purchased the Seismic 10 sub for my 19x20 room. If you have any suggestions please let me know. I have until Mon. afternoon to change the order. Or, tell me what a good decision I just made. Thanks again, Michael
post #55 of 618
Is there any word yet on how the Millenia 300 and 30 will differ from the 200 and 20 series in terms of specs and price?
LL
post #56 of 618
Any idea when the surrounds will be available?

The 300/30's looke like 5.25" woofers.
post #57 of 618
Studio 20 vs. Millenia 200.. I just had to say something about this growing dilemna. Myself and two very seasoned audiophiles listened to both yesterday side by side with different combinations. The Millenia 200's are awesome! You give up very little if anything! Remember you are talking about Reference line speakers. You are paying for the look with the 200, and maybe better music with the 20's. However.. I challenge anyone who has access to both at a dealer to listen. The 200's are a solid addidtion. The 20's are awesome also. JMHO
post #58 of 618
I couldnt agree more . I own both and feel the same way as you.
post #59 of 618
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by mstain View Post

If you add the price of the 20's and stands, they are just shy of the price of the 200's.


Did you dealer have prices for the stands? I still haven't been able to find out when they are going to be released.
The stands would have to be quite a bit for the $499 20's to match the $1199 200's. And I believe those prices are before the recent price hike.
post #60 of 618
Anyone getting any discounts on the Millenia?
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