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Pioneer VSX84TXSI or VSX82TXSI

post #1 of 29
Thread Starter 
Lets say I get the 84 for $961 shipped and the 82 for $800 shipped.

Is the 84 worth an extra $160 for 1 more HDMI port and 10watts more power per speaker?

Both I believe have HDMI 1.2a inputs and pass through 1080p.

I will have at least my A2 coming soon. So that takes up 1 spot and thats the only thing that uses HDMI.

If I save one for HDTV in the future (given) thats 2 used up.

If I save $160 I could buy about 7 HD-DVDs. What say you?
post #2 of 29
There are a few other differences...

4 HDMI vs. 3
iLink vs. not
PC USB connectivity vs. not
10 more watts
2nd optical digital output
remote for 2nd room
and a "Transformer Stabilizer"

Personally, I would buy the 84. Those extra features are worth it to me.
post #3 of 29
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Well currently I only have 1 HDMI spoken for.

Yes 4 is always better than 3, but I'm not sure if I'll be needing 4. Just trying to do the math myself.

I don't have an iPod. Yes I know its criminal.

PC USB Connectivity. Sounds nice, but not a feature I currently have or probably need.

I currently only use my receiver for 1 room and probably only will. I would most likely use my old receiver for a 2nd room if needed.

and a "Transformer Stabilizer"? Not familiar with that. Care to explain?

I appreciate the response and those extras I was unaware of. Though It still is leaning in the direction of the 82. Price difference and I can use the saved money on quite a few HD-DVDs. The HDMI Ports on the 82 are 1.2a correct?
post #4 of 29
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Originally Posted by metalsaber View Post

I don't have an iPod. Yes I know its criminal.

and a "Transformer Stabilizer"? Not familiar with that. Care to explain?

iLink isn't for an iPod. It's 1394a / Firewire. It's used in high end audio / DVD players to transmit audio (DVD-A / SACD / DTS / DD5.1 / etc ).

I have no idea what the "Transformer Stabilizer is. But, Pioneer indicates the 84 has one, and the 82 doesn't.
post #5 of 29
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Originally Posted by Stereodude View Post

iLink isn't for an iPod. It's 1394a / Firewire. It's used in high end audio / DVD players to transmit audio (DVD-A / SACD / DTS / DD5.1 / etc ).

I have no idea what the "Transformer Stabilizer is. But, Pioneer indicates the 84 has one, and the 82 doesn't.

My error, but still I don't use Firewire at all even though my PC has it.
post #6 of 29
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Originally Posted by metalsaber View Post

My error, but still I don't use Firewire at all even though my PC has it.

Then get the 82.
post #7 of 29
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by tonygeno View Post

Then get the 82.

Thats the way I'm leaning. I just wanted to be sure there wasn't something extra that I might make me consider the 84 over the 82.
post #8 of 29
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Originally Posted by metalsaber View Post

Thats the way I'm leaning. I just wanted to be sure there wasn't something extra that I might make me consider the 84 over the 82.

Well, 82 is a lower number than 84.
post #9 of 29
yeah that wins in golf.......

save the 160 bucks get the 82 and the extra hd dvds. you will never know the difference on the 10 extra watts power. you dont need ilink. you only need 1 hdmi for now so 2 to spare. you answered your questions. enjoy it.
post #10 of 29
I'm not exactly sure what you guys are thinking... I have my worries that 4 HDMI inputs aren't enough. Lets see here someone could have...

1) PC
2) HD-DVD player
3) Cable box
4) PS3

That leaves exactly 0 open ports
post #11 of 29
yes, someone "could" have all of those hooked up... =)

1. why would you have your pc hooked up via hdmi? just curious. to play what type of media when you would have a blu ray and an hd-dvd player as well?
post #12 of 29
Thread Starter 
I can definately see 3 used up in the future.

HD-DVD,
Blu-Ray,
HDTV (of some sorts).

However, thats assuming there isn't some sort of consolidation of the HD Movie formats. If a consolidation happens, then I free up a port again.
post #13 of 29
I'd get the 84 if only because it has ilink and then upgrade to a player that has it also.
post #14 of 29
what are the benefits on ilink?
post #15 of 29
A single cable for all audio. Something like 400Mbps.
post #16 of 29
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Originally Posted by DReborn View Post

what are the benefits on ilink?

iLink can transport DVD-A, SACD (DSD), PCM, Dolby Digital, DTS, CD audio digitally.

However, the advantages are basically negated by HDMI 1.2 which can transport all the same audio formats as iLink. DVD / Universal players with full HDMI 1.2 support will end up being cheaper than iLink equipped units also. Most of the newer lower end (sub $1k) DVD / universal players are dropping iLink.
post #17 of 29
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Originally Posted by DReborn View Post

yes, someone "could" have all of those hooked up... =)

1. why would you have your pc hooked up via hdmi? just curious. to play what type of media when you would have a blu ray and an hd-dvd player as well?

My PC is a HTPC that records HDTV material from cable and OTA. It plays those back to the TV via DVI. It also plays back DVDs that are stored as ISO files on my server, as well as playing back WMV-HD DVDs, DivX and any other video files.
post #18 of 29
ah, well there you go. =) i have an htpc as well but getting it hooked up has been a chore. have a dvi-component adapter but can never get it working right. oh well. =) glad someone has their htpc and HDTV working happily together.
post #19 of 29
Thread Starter 
Well I picked up the VSX-82TXS. I got everything calibrated. It did a pretty good job. I had to change my Front and Center speakers to Small. I had to drop some individual levels on some speakers, but I got a consistant level from each speaker which I could not do with the Yamaha.

Once calibrated at 0, it was too loud for me, so I've dropped it down to -10 and it still pretty loud but enjoyable. It can sometimes reach up to 97db depending on the movie.

Let me say this has a cleaner sound than my Yamaha and that is saying alot.

Everytime I get a new receiver, it's a challenge to get everything setup and used to the remote. No exception here. It the first universal remote that actually works. It had a little problem with the Hitachi TV, but it has an extra feature called a "Learning" system that you can use to learn functions that don't work by default. The Learning feature worked 100% of the time to get commands that didn't come standard. Way to go Pioneer!!!!

I tested out, Star Wars Episode III, Underworld, Underworld:Evolution and Saving Private Ryan. The sound is incredible. My new SVS sub sounds even better than when I got it. I absolutely love the THX Select 2 Cinenma. It's killer.

If anyone is considering this model, I highly recommend it.

Now I just have to wait till I get my A2.
post #20 of 29
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Originally Posted by Stereodude View Post

I have no idea what the "Transformer Stabilizer is. But, Pioneer indicates the 84 has one, and the 82 doesn't.

Transformer Stabilizer = It sound like a feature/function (whatever you want to call it) that stabilizing the current to enter the Receiver????... It sounds like it to me......... I think it work the same as a Monster Power center.... I could be wrong...

just trying.....
post #21 of 29
I have my XBOX 360 setup VIA component and I get no picture out of my HDMI connected TV. I get video from my Media Center and my HD DVR the HD DVR is connected VIA Component and the Media Center through HDMI... I also have my Pioneer 5 disk changer hooked up VIA component. All are being output through HDMI to my JVC 70 inch DLP. I can hear the audio from the XBOX 360 however I have not been able to get the picture to come through.

Any Ideas?

Thanks in advance.
post #22 of 29
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Originally Posted by tigerkn View Post

Transformer Stabilizer = It sound like a feature/function (whatever you want to call it) that stabilizing the current to enter the Receiver????... It sounds like it to me......... I think it work the same as a Monster Power center.... I could be wrong...

just trying.....

It's just the way the transformer is mounted in the chassis.
post #23 of 29
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Originally Posted by ASuperman View Post

I have my XBOX 360 setup VIA component and I get no picture out of my HDMI connected TV. I get video from my Media Center and my HD DVR the HD DVR is connected VIA Component and the Media Center through HDMI... I also have my Pioneer 5 disk changer hooked up VIA component. All are being output through HDMI to my JVC 70 inch DLP. I can hear the audio from the XBOX 360 however I have not been able to get the picture to come through.

Any Ideas?

Thanks in advance.

If the HD DVR is working through Component, then try plugging the XBOX into the same input and see what happens, if it works, then you just didn't have your input selections dialed in right.
post #24 of 29
who ships 84 for $961 and 82 for $800 shipped? i head conflicting reports that the US waranty is void if it's not an"authorized" dealer...
post #25 of 29
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Originally Posted by suresh29 View Post

who ships 84 for $961 and 82 for $800 shipped? i head conflicting reports that the US waranty is void if it's not an"authorized" dealer...

I think you'd be hard pressed to find an authorized dealer that would sell them for that price unless they were just trying to get rid of them to make room for new lines.
post #26 of 29
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Originally Posted by metalsaber View Post

Lets say I get the 84 for $961 shipped and the 82 for $800 shipped.

Is the 84 worth an extra $160 for 1 more HDMI port and 10watts more power per speaker?

Both I believe have HDMI 1.2a inputs and pass through 1080p.

I will have at least my A2 coming soon. So that takes up 1 spot and thats the only thing that uses HDMI.

If I save one for HDTV in the future (given) thats 2 used up.

If I save $160 I could buy about 7 HD-DVDs. What say you?

hey, can i ask you where you could the 84 for $961 shipped. i would like to get one
post #27 of 29
hey, has anyone out there knows about a good deal on the pioneer vsx-84 txsi.
post #28 of 29
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Originally Posted by pnbwoman View Post

hey, has anyone out there knows about a good deal on the pioneer vsx-84 txsi.

you realize this thread has not been visited in about 7 months. Best thing to do is start a new thread with your questions or just do a search on this forum. Anyways, try here http://www.soundpros.com/index.cfm.
post #29 of 29
I bought a VSX-84TXSi and cannot get any video output to work. I have a Sony Wega HD tube TV with component video inputs. I have this connected to the component video output of the receiver. Nothing displays -- not the menu items, not the iPod control, not the component video input from my DVR. I've tried various settings on the receiver, all to no avail. I've even tried the S-Video and composit video outputs using similar inputs. I've had video conversion on and off. I've set the resolution to 480p and 1080i. HELP!
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