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post #11941 of 11970
1/8/13 at 9:29am
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Originally Posted by ChuckF. View Post

I was limiting my comments to LCOS and 3-LCD, and Samsung didn't make any. That decision is one of the smartest things Samsung has ever done.
DLP is a whole different topic, and Sony didn't make those. Of the DLP vendors, Samsung is one of the better for standing behind their product. Mitusbishi, RCA, LG and the others less so. DLP is less of an issue because the technology is not so fundamentally flawed as is 3-LCD and LCOS.

I guess Samsung is better then, after all--better design decisions and support. smile.gif Some of those manufacturers you listed used Sony's defectively designed optical blocks in their models and suffered the consequences. And Sony threatened legal action against those that sought to publicize longevity studies demonstrating the fundamentally flawed nature of Sony's technology--studies that Sony apparently failed to properly conduct before selling millions of these TVs. Knowing how Sony currently designs and manufactures their TVs makes it clear that they are now just another run-of-the-mill manufacturer that no longer justifies a premium price.
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post #11942 of 11970
1/10/13 at 8:43am
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Originally Posted by kbrod1 View Post

I have a KDSR60XBR2 which has sadly gone green. I've been reading here and didn't understand what people were going through until now. It is very irritating. It's not just a green hue in a corner but everything has a green shade if you will. The best I can do is minimize it to some degree but it's always there. I've never seen so may variations of green in my life. After awhile you think everyone is wearing some derivative of green clothing etc. I contacted Sonylistens and got the following response:

I apologize however due to the age of the KDSR60XBR2 (Market Date: 9/19/2006), this model is not included in any repair/replacement program. However, because we appreciate you as a customer and since retaining you as a customer is very important, we can offer a replacement option as a gesture of goodwill.

We can offer you a KDL60EX645 for $965.00 + applicable taxes.

I have been buying Sony products for years and just recently got their DSC-RX100 which I like but my wife is partial to her Canon s90.

I spent alot on the XBR2 and also purchased the stand with it for another $275 (which I will no longer be able to use with anything). Be that as it may, is this an acceptable deal or am I being short- changed? Any input would be appreciated. Thanks in advance for your time.

Did you just send an email, and then they offered you a $1500 TV for $1000? Did you have to go through the whole picture taking documentation process? I have to say, this seems like a pretty good offer.

My TV isn't used much - just now getting the bulb replacement message - but I've thankfully been lucky with my TV so far. Ultimately, Sony doesn't owe us anything, so the gesture of goodwill earns some points from me.
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post #11943 of 11970
1/10/13 at 8:53am
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Did you just send an email, and then they offered you a $1500 TV for $1000? Did you have to go through the whole picture taking documentation process? I have to say, this seems like a pretty good offer.

My TV isn't used much - just now getting the bulb replacement message - but I've thankfully been lucky with my TV so far. Ultimately, Sony doesn't owe us anything, so the gesture of goodwill earns some points from me.

It will be curious to note when/if after you change the bulb, the green image issue starts to appear.
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post #11944 of 11970
1/10/13 at 7:30pm
If you just jinxed me...
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post #11945 of 11970
1/11/13 at 1:59am
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Originally Posted by azzupal View Post

If you just jinxed me...

Unfortunately it may happen. My 70XBR2 looked pretty good and in preparation for new theater setup and the fact I had yet to replace my original bulb I figured better check to see if extra bulb works. It did and everthing was bright and... wait .. oh dammm green tinge on top... Arrggg

11K hours on original was dim enough that green had gone unnoticed....

While it still looks damm good it now is in the game room as a 70 inch Wii display.....
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post #11946 of 11970
1/11/13 at 9:53am
This model with the XL-5300 bulb dims DRAMATICALLY starting at 500 hours and takes a steep curve down very fast from there. At 11,000 hours on a bulb, unless you had full on green screen you'd probably not notice it. Put in a new bulb and you will clearly see the green.
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post #11947 of 11970
1/11/13 at 5:01pm
Anyone have a set of side speakers for the 70" r70xbr2? I took them off because I had a HT system and now I want to use it as an Xbox display in a game room and my wife mad.gif threw away the side speakers!
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post #11948 of 11970
1/12/13 at 3:30pm
I've got them, they are are yours if you want them
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post #11949 of 11970
1/13/13 at 9:26am
i have a green 60" in the so cal/long beach area if anyone want to attemp a repair with it for $100. i'tll be available for about a week, then it's going to a local donation/ewaste drop (we have one that gives donation recpts for non working appliances as they use them for part as well). its' never been opened, never been claimed for trade or warranty with sony, and still has the serial sticker on it.
i had considered waiting around to find a second myself to do the transplant, but i think my wife would kill me if i took on another project like this


pm me soon or it'll be gone
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1/13/13 at 9:30am
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Originally Posted by cdnscg View Post

It will be curious to note when/if after you change the bulb, the green image issue starts to appear.


that's how mine happened. i'm pretty sure that it wasn't just that i didn't notice before as the brightness didn't seem all that much brighter after replacement. i'm wondering though if maybe it did still have enough added heat just to create a different environment for the filter...
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post #11951 of 11970
1/13/13 at 9:44am
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Originally Posted by methcat View Post

that's how mine happened. i'm pretty sure that it wasn't just that i didn't notice before as the brightness didn't seem all that much brighter after replacement. i'm wondering though if maybe it did still have enough added heat just to create a different environment for the filter...

Having measured a white screen at 100 IRE with a Minolta LS-100 after installing a Sony OEM XL5300 bulb replacement and every 50 hours thereafter, I can assure you the eyes are not a sensitive to fL as you might think. Don't worry - its common - and considering the differences even on screen that most was swear is the same in the center and on the edges, it would totally surprise you.
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post #11952 of 11970
1/14/13 at 3:25pm
well, i didnt' see it at all right after the bulb change. i'd say withina month or so i could see it only on white screens, and then within 2 months of that, it became pretty unwatchable....
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post #11953 of 11970
1/19/13 at 8:26am
Well, my bulb's changed out and there's not a hint of green on a white screen. I'm very happy if a little surprised.
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post #11954 of 11970
1/19/13 at 9:07am
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Originally Posted by azzupal View Post

Well, my bulb's changed out and there's not a hint of green on a white screen. I'm very happy if a little surprised.

Good news. How long ago did you change it?
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post #11955 of 11970
1/21/13 at 9:06am
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Originally Posted by cdnscg View Post

Good news. How long ago did you change it?

Just this weekend - I'm perhaps 10 hours in on the new bulb. I understand that problems creep in a while after the change, but the posts above made it sound like I might already have blobs I just wasn't seeing..

This TV has never been the primary TV in the house - it gets a few hours every other day. I wonder how much that has to do with my "luck" so far.
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post #11956 of 11970
1/25/13 at 10:36am
What's the best place to get a quality replacement bulb. It's time for another new one for me. I'm on the spare that came with my tv and I've had my set since 2006 and it's been used and abused so I'm looking for a good quality replacement and not one that will only last a few months. Thanks in advanced.
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1/25/13 at 11:06am
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Originally Posted by jaliscojorge View Post

What's the best place to get a quality replacement bulb. It's time for another new one for me. I'm on the spare that came with my tv and I've had my set since 2006 and it's been used and abused so I'm looking for a good quality replacement and not one that will only last a few months. Thanks in advanced.

Try Sony. Have you had no OB issues since your purchase in 2006?
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post #11958 of 11970
1/25/13 at 12:05pm
Yeah, it was replaced last summer I believe. Or it could be the summer of 2011?
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post #11959 of 11970
1/25/13 at 12:21pm
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Originally Posted by jaliscojorge View Post

Yeah, it was replaced last summer I believe. Or it could be the summer of 2011?

From your positive appearing post, I thought you might have been one of the few who did not have an OB issue.
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post #11960 of 11970
1/25/13 at 3:06pm
I did have that issue but luckily for me I got the 5 year warranty for $350.00 so it's one of those few times it paid of to get the extended warranty. But next time it goes out I'll have to seriously consider fixing or replacing?
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post #11961 of 11970
1/25/13 at 3:10pm
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Originally Posted by jaliscojorge View Post

What's the best place to get a quality replacement bulb. It's time for another new one for me. I'm on the spare that came with my tv and I've had my set since 2006 and it's been used and abused so I'm looking for a good quality replacement and not one that will only last a few months. Thanks in advanced.

See this post: http://www.avsforum.com/t/584936/official-2005-sony-kdsr-50-60xbr1-sxrd-owners-thread/23850#post_22548077
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post #11962 of 11970
1/25/13 at 4:54pm
I click on the link to amazon from your post ChuckF. but even when typing in the XL-5300 in the search bar it says there are no matches found. I'll check out the ebay link.
Went with niosales from your ebay link. Sony wants $250 while niosales asks for $85 for the exact same lamp according to them. But they have very good rep and I remember reading someone recommending them before. Thanks ChuckF.
Edited by jaliscojorge - 1/25/13 at 5:05pm
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post #11963 of 11970
1/31/13 at 1:26pm
60" here going strong on 2nd bulb. No greens at all. Nov 06 build date. Purchased in March 07. Almost hoping it will fail so I can justify replacing it, lol.

Also have a Sammy 67" LED DLP in perfect working order. Previously had a JVC LCOS that was replaced by the Sammy when the light engine failed (yellow blob).
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post #11964 of 11970
3/9/13 at 6:15pm
Hey Guys-
I posted awhile back on here shortly after I finally kicked my 70xbr2 to the curb in favor of a new set.
I still have 2 brand new OEM Sony XL-5300's in the box that I never used. They are the actual Sony replacement with the full cage.
If anyone who is lucky enough to still be using their Sony's is interested in 1 or 2 flip me a pm..
thanks
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post #11965 of 11970
4/29/13 at 8:24am
After replacing the lamp in my KDS-R70 XBR2 I now have blue oval waves on the screen. See here:

Is this the optical block problem I have read about? Thanks
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post #11966 of 11970
4/29/13 at 8:37am
It could be an OB problem, but it is not the green tinting that happens to many.
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post #11967 of 11970
4/29/13 at 4:51pm
Did you clean the inside lens of the unit before inserting the new bulb? Take the new bulb out and wipe the lens on the inside with a soft clean cloth.
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post #11968 of 11970
4/29/13 at 6:38pm
Thanks - I tried cleaning the lens but it made no difference.
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post #11969 of 11970
5/10/13 at 10:23pm
can someone help me - on the 60" XBR2, are there 3 or 4 fans? I'm aware of a small one in the back center, a large one in a large plastic housing, and a small one that's below a circuit board inside a channel like plastic housing. Is that it? Is there a tech drawing that shows the fan locations? Thanks in advance
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post #11970 of 11970
5/12/13 at 7:01pm
found the service manual on fixdevice.com
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