Official Sony XBR2 (60" & 70") Owner's Thread - Page 107

I'd go see the 60 and 70 to make my decision. For me it came down to a monetary issue. The $1500 I saved could be enjoyed in other places such as speakers, receivers, games, furniture etc. 60 is still a fun size. If I do decide to go bigger, it will be with a dedicated theatre room and a FP system.

Right now the HR20-700's internal tuners are disabled, so I have no choice. Also, depending on your location, the HR10-250s internal OTA tuner is sensitive to multicast interference, which makes reception not so ideal if you are surrounded by large structures. The current generation of OTA tuners have solved this problem for the most part, Sony's is real good. That is the only reasons to use the internal tuner, unless you want to record two channels and watch live a third. If you are doing that, well maybe you watch too much TV, because I can't think of 3 quality programs on at the same time worth recording (unless it Sunday).

I'm at 12.5' and wish there was an 80". I bought the 70. At first you feel like it's too big or whatever, but in a few days you think it's too small.

Sounds like someone is ready for FP

DOH! Thanks, htwaits!!

Yeah, having enough room is not a problem for me. I have at least 16ft of room from the TV. But the more I look at my 60", the smaller it's getting to look to me. The thing is, over at Best Buy, I saw the 60" and the 70" XBR2s side by side and there didn't seem to as a big of a difference which you see and feel when you look at a 50" and a 60" side by side. But there still was enough of a difference to have made me think about it.

But in the end, I agree with you. It all comes down to the issue of the price difference. Does the extra $2,500 (up here in Canada, that's the difference in prices currently) justify the extra supposed 10" diagonal size? While $2,500 isn't something I can sneeze at, it's not going to break me either and that's why I'm torn.

Interesting that both the 60" and the 70" XBR2's use the same stand. I've talked to my Sony rep already and he's trying to see if he can find another Sony store that'll take my 60" as a demo, since his store's already has one on the floor. That way, they can give me a full credit, instead of charging me a ridiculous 50% restocking fee!!!, and I can apply that towards a 70". But I doubt if it'll happen and I'm almost hoping that it won't. Then there's nothing I can do about it and be done with this remorse

i see the same thing on my 60"xbr2. a few seconds after pushing off, the whole screen is slightly lighter black with a blue tint. then the screen goes black, green light goes out and a minute or so later the fan goes off. no white in the corner though.

I have the Scientifc Atlanta 8300hd box from cox cable. To get to show different outputs, you need to turn off the box and then hold down guide and info. This will take you to a setup screen where you can choose different outputs the box will display.

However, after doing that, if you go to the hi-def channels, it may show you some channels, then the picture goes blank and you have a screen full of noise. (The sound still comes through fine.) The only way to fix this is if you hold down guide and info again, then hit the tv input button to rotate through the inputs until you get back to cable box input. Then in the setup, just check 1080i and uncheck everything else.

I am not sure why the picture disappears, when you check something other than 1080i.

Below is the link to the user guide. If you go to .pdf page 10, it will describe getting to the setup menu.

http://www.cox.com/support/digitalca...20connects.pdf

Edit:
I just tried adding the other outputs again, and now the pictures comes through just fine. I just keep the picture format on Auto/DVI/HDMI and it passes whatever the resolution is to the tv. The indicator on the box will switch from 1080i to 720p or 480i.

When I turn on my set and an SD channel comes on I have a black bar on the left side of the screen. Does anyone know what can correct this. It does not happen on all the channels. And does anyone know how to change the bars on the sides to black instead of grey? I HAVE THE SA 8300 DVR. Thanks.

Nope, no white leaks on mine. I watched 2 movies last night, room was all dark, and I couldn't see any light leaks on the corners. Even with the screen all dark.
Yes, Discovery HD it's breathtaking on this TV

Now that you pointed it out, I notice it slightly on the tv when there is a picture. It has been quite apparent to me, when I switch to a tv input that has no signal.

As far as Discovery HD; did anybody catch the Tribal Odyssey program that was on Monday night. This reminded me there is certain things I prefer not to see in 1080i. (I mean no disrespect to people featured in the show. )

What you guys do with the box of these things? Keep or trow it away?

I saw some parts of it in the begining, why? Did it get too gross or something? Or was the naked bodies that scared you off? LOL

Makes sense........I am waiting to get the HR20's after they enable the OTA tuners and work out some of the s/w kinks. I am only 4 miles from the Sears Tower in Chicago where I get most of my OTA. How do you like the HR20 interface vs the HR10 Tivo?

BT

Seeing the naked bodies of the tribal people was a real eye opender.

thanks, i'll try that tonight. i thought maybe that was in the setup wizard but i couldnt get to it. i didnt install the box and do the inital set up the delivery guys for the TV did. i just want to play around and see waht i get.

what set top box do you have?

Note also that the extra 10" in diagonal size equates to 36% more screen area.

I went with the 70" XBR2. It will finally get delivered on Monday after being delayed more than a month because of shipping problems with my new entertainment center.

(My viewing distance is 12.5'. My family room is 15'x20' so I have plenty of room.)

--Ted

I use mine as a coaster under my car in the garage. Helps absorb some of the snow drippings. I'll eventually throw it out but didn't want advertise what TV I had just purchased by putting it out by the curb.

When I picked up my cable cox for the Cox Cable, no one ever told me how to set it up. Yesterday evening, I went to their website to see if it was possible to change the output and that's how I found it.

Also, if you do a search of 8300HD, there is quite a few threads discussing the box and even adding an external hard drive for more storage capacity.

I'm seriously considering the 70inch TV, for my house. This tv is pretty deep compaired to some of the slim DLP sets that are availble. The only way that I could make something this deep work is if I can push it right aginst the back wall.

My question to the owners of this set, is where are the rear inputs located? are they right against the deepest part of the back, or are they offest to the side? Is it practical to have this tv pushed against a back wall, or are there vents or other obstructions that would be blocked? What is the practical limit of how close to a wall this unit can sit?

Thanks for your help

Ed

There are several pictures of the rear through out this thread, but to answer the question they are offset to the lower end of the tv, not against the back most part of the tv chassis.

If it's so close that the TV literally has to touch the wall, I'd reccomend a different set.

Pulled the trigger on a r60xbr2 from Sonystyle.com on nov 27th. NVC Direct called yesturday night to tell me that it would be delivered to my house this friday between 9am and 3pm. I sprung the extra 130 bucks for the white glove service. Also the 3 year warranty was an awesome price of 149.99 direct through sonystyle.com. can't beat 2 years no interest no payments either and the great sale price. Hoping this tv works great and isn't broken and planning on calibrating it myself best I can with the avia dvd.

You're welcome.

My wife spells it DUH!

Lucky! I bought the same day, but mine won't be here until sat morning.

Unfortunately they shipped it from PA west to around chicago before it even left for my area of the states. It's sitting in a warehouse right now waiting for a delivery to boston, as their company is 30 min outside the city.

You also should have haggled then a bit more, as they price matched tweeter, then added free white glove without even asking.

I HAVE THE SA 8300 DVR

The manual recommends a minimum 4" clearance in the rear. I don't think that should stop you from getting the tv. At a distance of ten to twelve feet, I don't think many people could tell a four inch difference.

Before I catch flack on this, the experimental conditions would be watching the screen at 12 feet, then the person stops watching for ten minutes. The screen is either moved or not moved four inches in distance. The person has to identify if it has been moved and in which direction. They have to correctly identify the direction of change or no change eight out of ten times. No other visual clues can be provided, such as the distance between the tv or the chair and something else. Also, it should be double blind, the person bringing the subject into the room should not know the condition.

and that 36% more screen area probably equates to 20-something extra square feet of viewing area. i also sit about 12.5 feet from my 70" and it could definitely be larger. there's no such thing as too big if you can sit a decent distance away if i had a dark enough environment i'd have definitely gone FP.

I should be getting the 70" early next month, once I've finished wearing down my wife. My first HD, replacing a 10 year old non-HD Toshiba 56" Theaterwide.

So I have two placement issues:

My Toshiba is about as deep as this, and I have it in the family room through the wall into the garage, so it's flush to the wall in the family room. My plan is to do the same with this set, just have the hole enlarged.

Do I have to worry about any ventilation holes within the first 10" or so back from the screen that will be inside the wall?

Right now, the Toshiba is on a wooden base built by my contractor. He can just add another layer to bring the Sony up to its' proper height.

Is that "support belt" needed that I saw in the Owners Manual? Can it be purchased separately?

Anything else I should know now? After I have it ordered, I'll ask about settings, etc. It will be connected to a Dish 622 (also to come) and OTA locals and through the HT system.

Also, any good calibrators in the Phoenix, AZ area? Thanks.

Barry