Official Sony XBR2 (60" & 70") Owner's Thread - Page 197

Sony updates their Softwares for each product as they mgrf it along the way. I don't think anyone otherthan Sony's patch software dept knows what the update is for.

But for example: SP3 = Software Patch version 3.

I'm not sure that's what it means.
I have a very early production 70" XBR2 (Sept 2006) & it also says SP3.

Note Everybody : If Sony has an update they want You to know here it is... http://esupport.sony.com/US/perl/mod...SR60XBR2&LOC=3 http://esupport.sony.com/US/perl/mod...mdl=KDSR60XBR2 I check it every now & then. if any of the TV Tech's that would like to let us in on th Tech releases from Sony , Please let us know...

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Originally Posted by Dinomon
That's what I have it set for DVD (1080i) to Video 7 (TV)..
Noise Reduction: LOW
Detail Enhancer: Low
Edge Enhancer: Low


I wanted to chime in on this. I have to agree with Eric in this case. I just picked up the Toshiba HD-A2 last week and along with turning off DRC, Noise Reduction, Detail Enhancer and Edge Enhancer, I noticed something else interesting. When I ran the Avia color and hue adjustments test, with my last DVD player I had to crank the color down below 40 and make a slight correction on the hue adjustment (to green)

When I ran the same tests with the HD-A2, outputting 1080i, I found that I could crank the color setting up to 55, and set the hue to neutral (0). When I moved onto the sharpness test pattern, that is when I discovered that turning off all of the 'enhancement' circuitry made a significant impact on the image. The 'wow' factor for HD was jaw dropping, even on a set that I am getting replaced with another 60XBR2 next week (geometry problems)

After two months of experience with this set, I am finding the better the source material and the better the equipment source itself, the more you need to lower or even eliminate these 'enhancements'.

At first it was tough to resist incorporating all of the bells and whistles this TV offers. Through time, I found little need for them as it seemed to lower the PQ. YMMV. Thanks...Will

I have an October 2006 SP3 60". Same green tint. I called Sony about it and they sent a tech over. He acknowledged the problem after a quick visual gray scale check. He suggested he would change the "Q-Board". "The video processor", he claims. Well, I gave him the go ahead and we will see in two weeks. Hardware or software, I won't let go 'till its fixed. I figure a TV in this price range should have good color.

My build date is Oct 06. My blacks did need adjusted. But convergence was and is very good. When I was shopping TV's early last year a lot of the XBR1's in the stores had some convergence issues. I read up and found out that you could only adjust convergence is one direction on the XBR1. I was very pleased to find out that my XBR2 convergence was very good AND Sony added another directional adjustment in the service menu if it wasn't. I was particularly concerned about convergence as I had a Toshiba TW56X81 for 4 years and I had to adjust convergence quite often on that set and still could never get it close to how good the Sony ended up being.

Have you contacted Michael Chen? He calibrated my old Tosh and did a fantastic job. Maybe you do have a hardware issue, but if it isn't Michael might be able to fix your issue.

Hi Will,

I agree, I have a good HD signal also and after days of playing and pausing screens and digging I am now running with all enhancements off, Sharpness at Max, Noise Reduction off. Now that I have found the right Color and Hue setting I am really liking the XBR2 much more.

On another note for folks like my self that were not happy with skin tones on SD channels, check out in the "Settings Menu" for your inputs. There is a Color Matrix custom selection that offers 2 color palette choices.

I found that 709 looked better for 480i and 480p. Just something else to try and drive yourself nuts with LOL!. You can alter the palette for each type 480i,480p,720p, etc.

Vintage=Feb 07 SP3

Best Regards,
Al

Here's a total n00b question, but I can't think of anywhere else to ask it.

Is the 'display rate' something that can be changed via firmware? I have the 60XBR2, and was reading about some of the new sets that will have a 120Hz display rate. This is great because it completely eliminates jutter (2 or 4 fps for 30/60Hz signals, and 5 fps for 24Hz signals... instead of the 2:3 crap). I think it was the XBR4s but I'm not sure.

Is this something that Sony can change via a firmware update, or is this a hardware issue? I'm not asking if Sony *will* update the firmware... just asking if they *can*.

Frame rate is not upgradeable via firmware. The internal circuitry has to be capable of supporting it (which it is not).

Has anyone else change the color palette to 709 andmade it look better for 480i and 480p? I have to give this a try.

709 is correct for high def signals. 601 is correct for standard def signals. I don't see how 709 would be correct for standard def.

Hi Guys,

This option is addressed in the manual for preference on skins tones. While I aggree the standards may be correct in a perfect world, this model has more red push than it probably should.

The 709 on my TV at least for 480i looks a tad better on the programs I tested with.

Al>

Thanks cctvtech. I thought I was going crazy there for a bit. The differences in some channels are striking! Now...is this color correction something that could be alleviated by a good ISF? Or is it solely dependent on the internal circuitry and we just have to live with it?

I got a new XBR2 as a wedding gift...it worked fine for a while but lately (past month or so)...it's been turning off by itself for no reason...and then there's this light on the front of the TV and it blinks 9 times...anybody know what the hell that means? And it doesn't turn on right away after it shuts off...like i have to wait a while (2-3 hrs) before it turns back on...and it stays on for random amount of time...like 20 mins sometimes...sometimes 2 days...

i'm thinking it might be a over heating issue or something and the tv turns itself off for some safety reason or something...but the tv is in a pretty spacious area and airflow isn't a problem...

I called Sony and the customer service rep was a dick...kept asking me for a receipt...

makes sense....however not sure how this would fix HD channles as I find the red push in some HD content as well as in the SD although more of it in SD.

9 Blinks means a device error. Usually means a visit form a service rep and yes they require proof of purchase.

any idea what type of device? anybody else experience this problem? and any idea what might be the reason for this?

this is so frustrating

Jsingh,

My first 60 XBR2 had this exact problem. The nine blinks can indicate a temperature problem or a myriad of other issues. Included in this are that the main controller is not receiving an acknowledge signal from one of several components. UMR suspected it could be a loose connector. With my particular situation, I tend to agree with UMR's theory. After I had enough of the XBR2 shutting down, I moved it from one side of the house to the other to put my Mits back online.

After a few days, I tried the Sony again and everything worked fine. I did, however, swap it for a replacement unit. It worked perfectly up until the point that Magnolia took it away. I kind of wish I didn't go on with the swap since the new tv has bad geometry and convergence issues. I'll be getting my second set replaced this Friday.

BTW, the first set had flawless geometry...

I am hoping for the best. The track record on these sets seems to indicate that I hit the un-lucky lottery. There's no way I could get three bad ones in a row...Right?

I would definitely have Sony check your set out. Like I stated, it might just be a loose connector. Either way, you can't let it go on like that.

Best of luck...Will

I would at least unplug it from the wall for 10 minutes or so, then plug it back and retry..
Its amazing how so many appliance/electronics problems that happen now a days can be fixed with a reboot/restart...

As far as defects, which has a better track record, the XBR2 or the A2020?

That would be a tough comparison. The XBR2 has been out months before the 2020 was released. And I think the 2020 has been out for a month, or so.


Edit: After some research, I found that the 60A2020 has the same internal components as the 60A2000. The only difference between the two seems to be that the A2000 is silver and black and the A2020 is all black. If I were you, I would go check the dedicated thread on the A2000...I'm sure there is probably one for the A2020 already, as well. You will definitely get biased responses here, since we all love our XBR2's. Even after two lemons, I am sticking with it. So obviously I believe that the XBR2 is the best TV ever made.

Reviewed by: David Katzmaier
Reviewed on 3/7/07

Editors' Note:: According to Sony, the 2007 KDS-60A2020 is exactly the same as the 2006 KDS-60A2000 except for color; the new model's cabinet is black instead of silver. For that reason, we will not review the KDS-60A2020 or any of Sony's other A2020 series SXRD HDTVs. Below we present a modified version of our original review of the KDS-60A2000. The ratings and our overall conclusions remain the same, but we updated a few areas where appropriate and changed the model numbers throughout. Keep in mind that all of the first-hand performance observations were made on our original sample of the Sony KDS-60A2000.

Source - http://reviews.cnet.com/Sony_KDS_60A...?tag=coco#more

I converted a section of the service manual from PDF to text so that I can post it for you. This is pretty much all the information I was ever able to gather regarding the nine blink error...Will

Device error 9 times
Temperature sensors,
Bus decoder ICs
(IC1700, 1800, 1900,
5066, 2305)
IC6402
-No picture/No sound

9 : Device error When the temperature sensor and bus decoder ICs do not return ACK on IIC
bus to DEM, DEM detects it and makes turn off the lamp.

Thanks again Will...but it's funny cuz it worked fine for the first month or so and just like 2-3 weeks ago it started to poop out like this

Does anyone know what version hdmi the 60"xbr2 has? Is it 1.2? Thanks in advance

Yes. It is 1.2. Regards...Will

Thanks Will!

I can't say for certain, perhaps umr could answer that.

But I would bet it is a hardware issue that can't be corrected in the service menu. Hence, no ISF would completely solve it. They may be able to average it out somewhere in between?!?

i read in an earlier post that a member had the sharpness all the way up and all the other adjustments off (detail and edge enhancer).i like these settings, i was using sharpness at 65 with detail at medium and edge at low i now have these off and like the picture!i had and xbr1 before being replaced with an xbr2 and i have struggled with the picture quality of the new one until now.

thanks!

I was wondering how good is the sound on this set. MY living room is a small crowded 11 x 13 space. My panisonic 30" tube doesn't do a bad job filling the room with sound. So should the XBR 2 giving me an even bigger bang in sound. Because i probably won't be able to afford a HITB if i get this set, even though i really don't need one in this small appartment.