Official Sony XBR2 (60" & 70") Owner's Thread - Page 334

Just an FYI to everyone...I didn't receive the Motion from Mr. Lax yesterday. I will shoot him an email on Monday. Regards...Will

I wonder what body part they pulled that number from? According to your website, Sony sold 1,100,000 Liquid Cystal RPTVs in 2006 and 450,000 in 2007, for a total of 1,550,000. Or is that worldwide sales?

Those numbers are only US sales, but they include the 3LCD, as well as the SXRD, models. The calculations are also complicated by the fact that earlier "model years" were still on sale in subsequent "calendar years," and perhaps some other factors. In any event, 47,000 seems awfully low, and I think the success rate of owner notification for the XBR1 class action was only about 50%. So, I am concerned that, even if one thinks the settlement is somehow fair to consumers, the vast majority will never even know about it.

Quite true. My former next door neighbor and my best friend each knew nothing about the XBR1 problems and warranty extensions until I told them.

I received the "Opposition to Motion for Preliminary Approval of Settlement" from Counselor Koncious last night. Here's hoping the judge recognizes the validity of the arguments and throws out the usurpers. In fact, I hope the judge see it for what it appears to be: an attempt by Sony to sweep the entire SXRD debacle under the carpet and absolve them of any further responsibilty to SXRD owners.

The XBR1 lawsuit gave them a virtual black eye. I hope the result of any settlement of either current lawsuit does far more.

I have added this document to my Class Action Lawsuits page.

Thank you so did I !!

Steve,

The link to "Opposition to Cardenas Settlement by Attorneys of Alternative Class Action" brings up "My Letter in Opposition to Cardenas Settlement" on your Class Action Lawsuits web page. The link to "Memo Opposing Cardenas Settlement.pdf" at the bottom of the page does work, however.

Oops. I fixed the link. Thanks for pointing that out.

I just received 10 documents from Rob. I've attached the main Opposition Motion. Is this from the same set that all of you have?
Regards...Will

 

Mtn Prelim App (Opposition) (Memo).pdf 152.037109375k . file

This is the same document I recently posted to my web site, plus mine includes all of the Exhibits at the end.

I didn't want to drive everyone nuts by attaching the exhibits.
It seems we have the same documents.

I like the argument, though. I hope that it works. Thoughts, anyone? Are there any JDs on this thread?

read the opposition to the proposed settlement to the oklahoma class action.

the word "phony wasn't used, but the word "collusion" between sony and the plaintiff's attorney are certainly recited repeatedly.

whether its phone or collusive, we're splitting hairs.

bottom line sony is trying to throw $650k at plaintiffs attorney to get him to settle a class action for all sxrds except the xbr1s which will give you approximately 10% of what you paid after failing within 2-3 years, and who knows how many times it will fail again in the future.

oh and don't forget the added bonus of a whole 2 mos extension on the ob warranty. whoopi.

send those letters to the judge. splinke's done everything except write it for you.

Did they have any issues and/or were you able to point it out to them?

I am very curious how many OB's Sony has replaced. Any way that will come out in the lawsuit?

Still no sign of OB issues in the front projectors?

None, as if mine fails out of warrenty it's out to the road with it. One would have to be crazy to spend more for an optical block than a new 65" plasma costs.

Sony and the class action attorneys will almost certainly settle without a trial, which means that Sony will continue to deny that there is any real problem with their optical blocks. In the highly unlikely event that there is a trial, there is a chance that such a number would come out.

The only reason I own the 60XBR2 is because I was dumb enough to buy the 60XBR1. I thought the swap out was a great move by Sony. I have not had the OB issue (yet) with my XBR2, but I imagine it will happen the day after my warranty runs out. This whole settlement thing for $350 burns my a**.

I will never buy Sony again.........this is where Sony will eventually get hurt.

I am in exactly the same situation. I just changed the bulb on my 60XBR2 at 5,000 hours. So far, I still have an excellent picture.

I'm more sad than angry. I feel that I have gotten my money's worth in viewing pleasure over 4 1/2 years (combined XBR1 & 2). I won't pay for repairs (that may not last) out of pocket, so when the OB goes after warranty expiration, so does the set. I'll miss it. I'm also not sure that I will be happy with whatever replaces it.

+1

Except my original OB went bad and was replaced in December '09. Now the new one is developing blobs. I've sent letters to the judge, attorneys and California AG's office.

+2

Same situation here. I thought it was a great deal to get the XBR2 as a replacement without spending a buck. They even gave me a new stand to go with it, as I had the orginal Sony stand for the XBR1.

Currently, I've had my OB replaced once about 13-14 months ago. The set still looks great and no signs of OB failure. I'm getting the message to change the bulb but the screen looks fine so I'll hold off.

Would I buy another Sony? If proven the new set was not deffective and offered an excellent viewing experience for a reasonable price and a reasonable buy back option for XBR owners I would consider it.

Ray

I just changed my bulb for the first time. I figured, why not since I have it and this TV won't last me another 4 years. Might as well enjoy the new bulb for a while. It also gave me a good excuse to vacuum out all of the dust.

This will be the 2nd bulb replacement for me and the last bulb I have. Shortly, after the first bulb change out (month or two) is when I noticed the OB issue.

Ray

I wonder if anyone has had the OB issue, without first changing the bulb???

Thanks for the good news!

Judge Patterson has scheduled April 12th to consider the preliminary approval of the proposed settlement in the Cardenas class action lawsuit on the Q006, XBR2, A2000, A2020, and A3000 models. In my opinion, the proposed settlement is an insult to consumers, providing only a month or two of warranty coverage and a few hundred dollars, in most cases. For more information on this lawsuit, see the Class Action Lawsuits page of my Sony LCD Rear Projection TV Problems web site.

I want to thank you for posting all of this information. You have done an excellent job compiling, and presenting, everything.

I have come to believe that changing the bulb is always the beginning of the end .......every single person I have talked to who has experienced the light engine failure has noticed it shortly after a lamp change

Need some advice: My 70" XBR2 has been lightly used and is still on its original bulb. Its bulb has been been operated in power saving mode, and the set's located in a cool basement family room.

The good news is that I don't have the green/yellow discoloration (yet?). But the TV picture has developed a dark blue tint -- so much so that black backgrounds (e.g., letterbox areas around widescreen movies) are now dark blue.

I paid $400 for an ISF calibration when the set was new, and it once had perfect color balance. But now I've had to go into the menu and cut the blue bias and gain levels to get rid of most of the excess blue -- except for blue-ish black backgrounds which apparently can't be fixed.

Is this something cause by the optical block going bad? If so, would I be better off having it replaced before the warranty runs out in June (and running the risk of creating other problems?), or should I just put up with the blue-ish blacks?

Yes. Both of my optical block failures occured before changing the lamp.

In my case, it was not the first lamp replacement that (triggered?) OB failure; it was the second.