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Originally Posted by Ph8te View Post

Hmmmm Not surre I WANT to know that.....I hate spoilerphobia, but putting news like this, just kind of "ruins" it for me.....Could be just me though, I dont go out looking beyond the show to see how long characters are goign to be on (thus saying they will die\exit in some way).........*shrugs* oh well...

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Originally Posted by oink View Post

NOOOOooooo.....
Ron, delete this post.eek.gif
Ok...it's done...now you have to delete yours...tongue.gif
post #5222 of 6855
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Originally Posted by Nuance View Post

Another great episode this season! Is it just me, or is this already better than season 5 and 6? biggrin.gif
I didn't check the credits, but it seems like the (so-called) writers from last season are gone. I haven't rolled my eyes once so far this season. And, IIRC, I even let out a few YHTBFKM's last season. smile.gif

larry
Edited by PooperScooper - 10/23/12 at 3:44am
post #5223 of 6855
Actually most of the writers from seasons past (showrunner Scott Buck, producer Manny Coto, last Sunday's episode writer Wendy West, etc.) are still with the show. It's like "Lost": those writers were also spinning on their wheels (Season 3) but, once given an end date, no more dodging for time and future seasons. Seasons 3-6 were the "Dexter" writers literally making s*** up to keep the show going until they knew when to unleash the real "Dexter" stuff we wanted to see, and some (S4) were better than others (S3 feels OK on hindsight, but most of S5 and 99% of S6 were just bad). Makes you wish other shows had an end date in mind so their staff of writers can dispense the plots way ahead of time ("Game of Thrones" and "Walking Dead" really benefit from their sources).
post #5224 of 6855
Ray Stevenson is doing a fine Job as a Gangster who dosen't mind doing the wet work himself. I did not see the gay lover at all.
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Originally Posted by PooperScooper View Post

I didn't check the credits, but it seems like the (so-called) writers from last season are gone. I haven't rolled my eyes once so far this season. And, IIRC, I even let out a few YHTBFKM's last season. smile.gif
larry

Whoa - you lost me with that acronym. smile.gif

I agree, though. And perhaps it isn't fair to compare season seven to five and six, but I can already tell I am enjoying this a lot more than the latter two seasons (and will likely continue to).

Edited for poor grammar. redface.gif
Edited by Nuance - 10/23/12 at 8:26am
post #5226 of 6855
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Originally Posted by DNINE View Post

Ray Stevenson is doing a fine Job as a Gangster who dosen't mind doing the wet work himself. I did not see the gay lover at all.

I have to admit, I flashed on that initially, but then thought there was a resemblance, so I'm thinking brothers.

@Nuance: YHTBFKM = "You have to be f***ing kidding me," maybe??
post #5227 of 6855
I remember thinking as I was watching Sunday night during opening credits what do all these Ex Producers and Producers do? They must have listed five or six. Scott Buck, MCH anyone else Id have to look up but it seemed like there were many people with these tittles.

During Show runners Scott Buck was saying how impressed he was with MCH skills when he was yelling at Spelzter(sp) on the slab. It was a cool scene.
post #5228 of 6855
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Originally Posted by bruce73 View Post

I have to admit, I flashed on that initially, but then thought there was a resemblance, so I'm thinking brothers.
@Nuance: YHTBFKM = "You have to be f***ing kidding me," maybe??

Yep you got it smile.gif

I was thinking Brothers or son, but any of them could be a possiblity..
post #5229 of 6855
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Originally Posted by bruce73 View Post

I have to admit, I flashed on that initially, but then thought there was a resemblance, so I'm thinking brothers.
@Nuance: YHTBFKM = "You have to be f***ing kidding me," maybe??
LOL - thanks.

By the way, I agree with you, as I thought they were simply brothers and not gay lovers. It is odd that he'd hide his picture like that, though...
post #5230 of 6855
Great episode this week, by far the most enjoyable Dexter episode I've seen in years. The last 10 minutes or so were great, one of the best kill room scenes yet.

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Originally Posted by Nuance View Post

Another great episode this season! Is it just me, or is this already better than season 5 and 6? biggrin.gif

For sure on season 6, which was horrible the whole way through.

Let's not forget though, that season 5 actually started fine, and was actually pretty decent most of the way through. It wasn't until the last few episodes when they completely copped out on the Quinn, robocop, and Deb storylines that things went south quickly. If they'd gone the way they were headed with Dex vs. Quinn and Deb finding out (in a place in the series where it actually made sense no less, rather than just sloppily thrown in to the end of S6) instead of hitting a big fat reset button, it would have been regarded as another great season.

EDIT: for the love of god Oink will you delete your post? The only thing worse than posting a spoiler is quoting a spoiler, especially when you leave it up after said spoiler is deleted. I'm sure I'm not the only one that missed the spoiler originally but saw it in your post. Wtf were you thinking, dude?
post #5231 of 6855
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Originally Posted by DNINE View Post

Ray Stevenson is doing a fine Job as a Gangster who dosen't mind doing the wet work himself.
+1

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EDIT: for the love of god Oink will you delete your post? The only thing worse than posting a spoiler is quoting a spoiler, especially when you leave it up after said spoiler is deleted. I'm sure I'm not the only one that missed the spoiler originally but saw it in your post. Wtf were you thinking, dude?
OK...doing it now.
Sorry, I'm on PST.wink.gif
post #5232 of 6855
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Originally Posted by dad1153 View Post

-So, were Isaak and Viktor gay lovers? Why did Viktor keep the picture of him and Isaak hidden? Or they were just really tight? The way that scene in Viktor's empty apartment was framed and shot really made it seem like the relation between Isaak and Viktor was more than just mob friends/associates. They're obviously not known as brothers given the manager of Fox Hole (the dude that got stuck with Louis clean-up duty last week) said things about Viktor that he wouldn't have if it was known Viktor and Isaak were close.
Really? I got the impression that Viktor is Isaak's son. It actually plays into the foreshadowing in the show, when they go to the bartender's house and the bartender has pictures of his family on all the walls. Isaak also guarantees the bartender that he will take care of his children for the rest of their lives if he commits suicide, showing that he thinks children are important.

Batista says that if he was feeling guilty about cheating on his wife, he would have taken the pictures down rather than commit suicide (which is why he thinks its fishy). Quinn simply thinks that a man would be too lazy to take the pictures down. Isaak, on the other hand, deliberately hides the picture of him and Viktor from plain sight.

Signs point toward Viktor being Isaak's son. I could be mistaken, but nothing about that picture nor the scenario said "gay lovers" to me.
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Originally Posted by tighr View Post

Really? I got the impression that Viktor is Isaak's son. It actually plays into the foreshadowing in the show, when they go to the bartender's house and the bartender has pictures of his family on all the walls. Isaak also guarantees the bartender that he will take care of his children for the rest of their lives if he commits suicide, showing that he thinks children are important.
Batista says that if he was feeling guilty about cheating on his wife, he would have taken the pictures down rather than commit suicide (which is why he thinks its fishy). Quinn simply thinks that a man would be too lazy to take the pictures down. Isaak, on the other hand, deliberately hides the picture of him and Viktor from plain sight.
Signs point toward Viktor being Isaak's son. I could be mistaken, but nothing about that picture nor the scenario said "gay lovers" to me.
It was Victor's apartment. Isaak knew the picture was there because he recognized the beach scene...opened the frame and discovered the pic of the 2 of them "happy together". My first thought was that they were hiding a gay relationship, but they could be half brothers, possibly father and son, but the age difference might not be enough. I'm thinking we'll find out for sure later on. Doesn't matter to me. Isaak obviously loved Victor, no matter what the reason. The gay lover idea kind of appeals to me just because it twists up the crazy factor for a very interesting character. Ray Stevenson is doing a masterful job as the scary and unpredictable, yet charming Ukrainian crime boss.
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Originally Posted by tighr View Post

Signs point toward Viktor being Isaak's son. I could be mistaken, but nothing about that picture nor the scenario said "gay lovers" to me.

There is other context for the gay lover angle. When Isaak and Dexter are casually talking in the club with dancers gyrating in the background, Isaak says that they seem to be "the only two people in there who don't care about the entertainment", or words to that effect. And there would be no reason for Isaak to hide the fact that Viktor was his son if that was the case. His son, if in the crime business with him, would likely be his favored lieutenant and everybody would understand the pecking order.
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Originally Posted by tighr View Post


Signs point toward Viktor being Isaak's son. I could be mistaken, but nothing about that picture nor the scenario said "gay lovers" to me.

Really? Nothing about hiding the picture behind another picture in the frame said anything but gay lovers to me.

Mobsters don't usually hide their family connections.
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Does anyone think that Dexter will try to pin the identity of the Bay Serial Killer (or whatever the name is) on someone to protect himself? It makes me wonder if there is more to Hannah than meets the eye - as in, perhaps she was more of a participant in the killings than everyone believes, perhaps to the point of being a serial killer herself. I know that's a stretch, but anything is possible on this show.
post #5237 of 6855
I thought it was his son from the start, but lovers actually makes more sense, plot wise. It is something different the show could do and it has a twist. Isaac comes across masculine he has hot babes around him. In Dexter's world you can be a killer who's sexual orientation is of no consequence.
post #5238 of 6855
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Originally Posted by CPanther95 View Post

Really? Nothing about hiding the picture behind another picture in the frame said anything but gay lovers to me.
Mobsters don't usually hide their family connections.

They could have been in the same fraternity house. wink.gif
post #5239 of 6855
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Originally Posted by Joseph View Post

It makes me wonder if there is more to Hannah than meets the eye - as in, perhaps she was more of a participant in the killings than everyone believes, perhaps to the point of being a serial killer herself. I know that's a stretch, but anything is possible on this show.
She's clearly more important to the show. Otherwise, she wouldn't still be hanging around after Wayne Randall played Frogger at the Tasty-Freeze. I think they're setting her up to be a major player this season in some fashion.
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Originally Posted by Joseph View Post

Does anyone think that Dexter will try to pin the identity of the Bay Serial Killer (or whatever the name is) on someone to protect himself? It makes me wonder if there is more to Hannah than meets the eye - as in, perhaps she was more of a participant in the killings than everyone believes, perhaps to the point of being a serial killer herself. I know that's a stretch, but anything is possible on this show.
Regarding Hannah...no stretch at all. Comments by her boyfriend coupled with the few scenes we've seen has my and Dex's spidey sense tingling. In fact, I'd almost guarantee it. What plays out now is the mystery.
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Originally Posted by daryl zero View Post

They could have been in the same fraternity house. wink.gif

Like I said.... wink.gif
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Originally Posted by Joseph View Post

Does anyone think that Dexter will try to pin the identity of the Bay Serial Killer (or whatever the name is) on someone to protect himself?

Are you talking about the Bay Harbor Butcher that Doakes when down for?
post #5243 of 6855
Looks like Hannah and Dexter are going to have plenty of stuff in common. Who knows Dexter may fall in luv tongue.gif
post #5244 of 6855
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Originally Posted by DNINE View Post

In Dexter's world you can be a killer who's sexual orientation is of no consequence.

Darn right! Who says we're not making progress on civil rights?
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Originally Posted by scowl View Post

Are you talking about the Bay Harbor Butcher that Doakes when down for?

That's it - thanks! smile.gif
post #5246 of 6855
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Originally Posted by DNINE View Post

Ray Stevenson is doing a fine Job as a Gangster who dosen't mind doing the wet work himself. I did not see the gay lover at all.

I have to admit, I flashed on that initially, but then thought there was a resemblance, so I'm thinking brothers.

@Nuance: YHTBFKM = "You have to be f***ing kidding me," maybe??
I didn't say that. smile.gif

larry
post #5247 of 6855
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Originally Posted by DNINE View Post

Why the heck was I thinking Miguel? It's not even close to Angel Batista.

I think Miguel was Jimmy Smits character in that awful season.
post #5248 of 6855
I realized that way after, I'm hearing Laguerta say Miguel. She was involved with both so I mixed it up.
post #5249 of 6855
Another good episode. The dialog scene between Dexter and Izaak at the prison was just awesome!
post #5250 of 6855
I agree a good episode, but I think people will feel not as good as the previous 3. THought there were some really good scenes in this one (namely between VIktor and Dexter). With him in jail it puts that story on the back burner, while pushing forward Dexter and Hannah with Hannah possibly either ending up as a fling or on his slab....
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