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post #5341 of 5949
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Originally Posted by FreeBaGeL View Post

She's definitely not connecting some of the very simple dots that the character of Deb we've been presented should be connecting.
It's unforgivable at this point that she hasn't really brought up Doakes being an innocent guy that was killed and slandered because of Dex. I don't think she even knows that it wasn't Dexter who killed him at this point, and I have no idea why she wouldn't assume it was. That should have been the very first thing she confronted him about when he said he only kills bad people.
I don't think she believes he could kill cops (the good guys).
"Bad guys" yes, she has seen that...but not the "good guys."
Afterall, she is one of the "good guys," and so was Harry, etc....
post #5342 of 5949
Enjoyed the episode tonight. Guess that removes any and all doubt about Hanna, even if her situation is a bit more nuanced.

And for some reason, I see Isaac playing a role in Deb's newfound "need for justice" concerning Hanna.
post #5343 of 5949
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Originally Posted by hhaller View Post

Enjoyed the episode tonight. Guess that removes any and all doubt about Hanna, even if her situation is a bit more nuanced.
And for some reason, I see Isaac playing a role in Deb's newfound "need for justice" concerning Hanna.
It is as I had foreseen: Deb is warming up to Dex's methods regarding the pursuit of justice.biggrin.gif
Unfortunately for him, she is going blow her gonads when she finds out he has been buggerin' Hannah...

This whole thing with LaGuerta is gonna be Dex's biggest hurdle.
I doubt very much she can be "bought off" in any real way and will have to go to the table.
Which, of course, will bring Angel to great wrath and furious anger...tongue.gif
post #5344 of 5949
It was a good show. I agree Isaac Cancels Hannah or Debra does somehow, but I know by now there's know way to predict this show. I never would have thought the writer would have died in Dexter's living Room. I knew Hannah was going to Poison him but didn't think it would be so obvious. When Isaac said Dexter Morgan it reminded me of Trinity.
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I'll play the other side and say that Hannah will attempt to go after Debra, hence Dexter will have to take her out. Either way, this does remind me of Trinity/Rita, but this time with Debra being the possible victim or Hannah being Isaac's victim.
post #5346 of 5949
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Originally Posted by Nuance View Post

I'll play the other side and say that Hannah will attempt to go after Debra, hence Dexter will have to take her out. Either way, this does remind me of Trinity/Rita, but this time with Debra being the possible victim or Hannah being Isaac's victim.

Hanna hasn't really shown a predilection for violence, at least lately, and I think Deb would be pretty careful around her, so I doubt that Hanna would have success in any attempt to go after Deb. Isaac is definitely a wildcard here, since he is capable of anything, so one around Dexter is safe.
post #5347 of 5949
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Originally Posted by jandron View Post

Hanna hasn't really shown a predilection for violence, at least lately, and I think Deb would be pretty careful around her, so I doubt that Hanna would have success in any attempt to go after Deb. Isaac is definitely a wildcard here, since he is capable of anything, so one around Dexter is safe.

She killed the reporter for getting too close, so why wouldn't she try to take out Deb? Deb has already pressed her and gotten on her bad side. Hannah, of course, will not succeed in killing Deb, but I don't doubt that she might try, especially when she learns Debra wants her dead.
post #5348 of 5949
I think Isaac will take out Hanna - payback for Dexter killing Victor. Then Dex will go into an all out rage, and the last couple of episodes will be an all out battle between Isaac and Dexter.
post #5349 of 5949
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Originally Posted by Nuance View Post

She killed the reporter for getting too close, so why wouldn't she try to take out Deb? Deb has already pressed her and gotten on her bad side. Hannah, of course, will not succeed in killing Deb, but I don't doubt that she might try, especially when she learns Debra wants her dead.

I would have to agree, especially with Deb being more gung ho about having Dexter use his own method of Justice....Eventually he will have to make a choice between Deb and Hannah, who would win? His thoughts of "is this what lvoes feels like" will for sure come up in the future when the choice needs to be made. Dexer really has never had anyone accept both sides of him as Hannah does which puts things into a entirely new perspective......
post #5350 of 5949
I believe Hannah spoke true words when she and Dex parted that first morning...we shouldn't see each other again because it's sure to end badly. Later, she admitted that she doesn't enjoy killing (unlike Dexter), it's more survival of the fittest. In other words, she doesn't off people indescriminately, but she removes obstacles. Now that they've thrown caution to the wind, they will grow closer for awhile, but ultimately it will be survival of the fittest...and Dexter better watch out because she's a consumate actress. It's a nice contrast between the 2 characters....Dex all full of rage and Dark Passengers, Hannah, all cool calculating, smart and deadly (and very hot). I expect them to combust.
post #5351 of 5949
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Originally Posted by Nuance View Post

She killed the reporter for getting too close, so why wouldn't she try to take out Deb? Deb has already pressed her and gotten on her bad side. Hannah, of course, will not succeed in killing Deb, but I don't doubt that she might try, especially when she learns Debra wants her dead.
No doubt Hannah will do ANYTHING to protect herself from Deb or Dex.
But she does or should know if she makes a run at Deb, Dex WILL put her down.
He will always side with his sis.wink.gif

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Originally Posted by Ron Temple View Post

I believe Hannah spoke true words when she and Dex parted that first morning...we shouldn't see each other again because it's sure to end badly. Later, she admitted that she doesn't enjoy killing (unlike Dexter), it's more survival of the fittest. In other words, she doesn't off people indescriminately, but she removes obstacles. Now that they've thrown caution to the wind, they will grow closer for awhile, but ultimately it will be survival of the fittest...and Dexter better watch out because she's a consumate actress. It's a nice contrast between the 2 characters....Dex all full of rage and Dark Passengers, Hannah, all cool calculating, smart and deadly (and very hot). I expect them to combust.
The woman playing Hannah is a superb actress...one of the best ever in the series.
And, yes, she is hotter than he!!biggrin.gif
post #5352 of 5949
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Originally Posted by rsambuca View Post

I think Isaac will take out Hanna - payback for Dexter killing Victor. Then Dex will go into an all out rage, and the last couple of episodes will be an all out battle between Isaac and Dexter.

I have to admit, that could be fun to watch.
post #5353 of 5949
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Originally Posted by Nuance View Post

She killed the reporter for getting too close, so why wouldn't she try to take out Deb? Deb has already pressed her and gotten on her bad side. Hannah, of course, will not succeed in killing Deb, but I don't doubt that she might try, especially when she learns Debra wants her dead.

Hannah is more of a defensive killer, she strikes when threatened. She does seem rather protective of Dexter, though, so unless they start ramping her up to be a love-obsessive chick (which she has been anything but so far), I think she'd rather just steer clear of Deb. Just my impression of it so far.

I don't see Deb steering clear of this though. If her brother is unwilling to kill, I can see her leaving a breadcrumb trail for Isaac to hunt down Hannah.
post #5354 of 5949
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Originally Posted by Nuance View Post

She killed the reporter for getting too close, so why wouldn't she try to take out Deb? Deb has already pressed her and gotten on her bad side. Hannah, of course, will not succeed in killing Deb, but I don't doubt that she might try, especially when she learns Debra wants her dead.

You missed my point, which as I read back I didn't make clearly. I wasn't saying that Hanna hadn't killed recently, but that she hadn't killed violently. And as Deb would be on her toes about the ways the Hanna HAS killed, she would have a difficult time slipping Deb poison undetected.
post #5355 of 5949
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Originally Posted by hhaller View Post

Hannah is more of a defensive killer, she strikes when threatened. She does seem rather protective of Dexter, though, so unless they start ramping her up to be a love-obsessive chick (which she has been anything but so far), I think she'd rather just steer clear of Deb.
Most likely scenerio.

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I don't see Deb steering clear of this though..
Neither do I.
It was HUGE HUGE for Deb to ask Dex to take care of her problem.

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Originally Posted by jandron View Post

Deb would be on her toes about the ways the Hanna HAS killed, she would have a difficult time slipping Deb poison undetected.
True, but desperate people will do desperate things.wink.gif
post #5356 of 5949
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Originally Posted by jandron View Post

You missed my point, which as I read back I didn't make clearly. I wasn't saying that Hanna hadn't killed recently, but that she hadn't killed violently. And as Deb would be on her toes about the ways the Hanna HAS killed, she would have a difficult time slipping Deb poison undetected.

You're right - your point wasn't clear, so thanks for clarifying. I agree - Hannah isn't a "violent killer," but one could argue killing is an act of violence (one definition of violence is an unjust or unwarranted exertion of force or power, and murder fits that description). With that said, I can see her becoming threatened by Debra and ultimately trying to remove her from the equation. She won't succeed, but it is one of a couple likely scenarios (the other being Isaac takes out Hannah to get revenge on Dex). Either way, Hannah will die.
post #5357 of 5949
Found this:
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a person, acting with the mental state required for commission of an offense, who solicits, requests, commands, importunes or intentionally aids another person to engage in conduct which constitutes an offense shall be criminally liable for such conduct and may be prosecuted and punished as if (he/she) were the principal offender.

It's state level, but you get the idea - if Dex kills Hannah, Deb is a murderer in the eyes of the law. She's a felon as of now I would think.

I don't know if you're not supposed to notice this, or if Dex will talk her out of it next week (so then Isaac can take out Hannah.)

Whatever, I thought it was lame to have Deb so casually make herself a felon, and I'm hoping the writers have a way out of it.
post #5358 of 5949
I wouldn't eat, drink or even chew something near Hannah.. LOL

I wonder what kind of chemical/poison leaves no trace and causes a heart attack.. she's better her methods.. I bet she has killed more people this way..
post #5359 of 5949
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Originally Posted by jandron View Post

You missed my point, which as I read back I didn't make clearly. I wasn't saying that Hanna hadn't killed recently, but that she hadn't killed violently.

Hanna hasn't killed violently? I dunno, but sitting on someone's chest and plunging away with a knife seems pretty violent to me.
post #5360 of 5949
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Originally Posted by archiguy View Post

Hanna hasn't killed violently? I dunno, but sitting on someone's chest and plunging away with a knife seems pretty violent to me.
Yeah, well, there's that....

I guess having Isaac do the deed to Hannah would make for a perfect circle of revenge on Dex and turn Deb's murder conspiracy into vaporware.
post #5361 of 5949
If Isaac learns who Dexter really cares for- his family, which is why he sent Harrison away. Isaac would go after Debra or Harrison first.
post #5362 of 5949
Isaac has said several times that Miami needs to have one less person meaning Dexter. I think Dexter convinced him at that jail that no one else had anything to do with it which I believe means that Isaac isn't going after any of the police. So we have some balls up in the air: Hannah, Isaac, LaGuerta and Quinn. I paused the show just as Deb called and told my wife that Deb would ask Dexter to take care of Hannah. I like where this show is going. Not sure what LaGuerta's review of the boats owned by personnel means other than the bodies dumped at sea. I presume quite a few people own boats. Since the show made a big deal about this, I presume that LaGuerta is going to look closer at Dexter.
post #5363 of 5949
I am wondering if they will take Laguerta into the last season. It's something that has been building very slowly.
post #5364 of 5949
^^^ Remeber that whatever happens this season will pay off and set-up Season 8, presumably the show's last. I think LaGuerta is being set up to see the light of day about Dexter at the end of S7 (how Maria deals with Deborah from now on will reveal a lot), then S8 is a cat-and-mouse between a formidable, well-connected Miami Metro insider that knows or strongly suspects Dexter to be the Bay Harbor Butcher but spends whatever cases/bad guys/kills Dex (and Deb? eek.gif ) engages in in S7 watching and keeping tabs. The stronger villain Dexter hasn't encountered yet is one he doesn't see coming (ITK came closest, but they were kindred spirits playing a game from the end of the pilot). All Maria has to do is pretend she dropped the BHB pursuit and both Morgans (again, eek.gif ) will turn their full attention to the pressing threats from Isaac and Hannah (she's technically not a threat other than she has the goods on Dexter and she's fully on Deb's radar now for killing a potential new BF). Then, like S6, the final shot/scene of S7 sets-up the series' end game.

I've been crazy-busy at work and, frankly, mentally exhausted from Sandy-related deadlines (i.e. work pushed from a week away from work has to be completed along with new work) but I want to write about these last three "Dexter" episodes soon before I take my annual Thanksgiving sabbatical in AZ. One thing that just jumped at me though. Remember the very last shot of "Chemistry"? After Deb has asked her bro to take care of Hannah and hangs up, Dexter turns around and looks straight at us, the fans that have been begging since as far back as S3 for Deb to find out the truth about him for dramatic heft. Dex breaking the fourth wall after Deborah's dramatic turn-around (which we kind-of knew was coming but not in this particular scenario) is like the show's entire writing/producing staff telling us 'You wanted this? You mother***ing got it bitches, saddle up for the ride.' biggrin.gif Was I the only one howling and clapping in approval at both the ending of the episode and the narrative as a whole? It's a good time to be a "Dexter" fan. smile.gif
post #5365 of 5949
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Originally Posted by daryl zero View Post

Not sure what LaGuerta's review of the boats owned by personnel means other than the bodies dumped at sea. I presume quite a few people own boats. Since the show made a big deal about this, I presume that LaGuerta is going to look closer at Dexter.
If you had looked closely at the page Maria was reading, you would have noticed she stopped on the names of Dexter and Debra Morgan.wink.gif

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Originally Posted by dad1153 View Post

Was I the only one howling and clapping in approval at both the ending of the episode and the narrative as a whole? smile.gif
No, you weren't.
The show is hitting on all cylinders and every episode has the wife and me sitting on the edges of our chairs....cool.gif
post #5366 of 5949
Yes ^^^^ there were check marks next to a few names, Dexter Morgan being the one that supposed to stand out.
post #5367 of 5949
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Originally Posted by oink View Post

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The show is hitting on all cylinders and every episode has the wife and me sitting on the edges of our chairs....cool.gif

Fully agree and love your sig. smile.gif
post #5368 of 5949
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Originally Posted by oink View Post

If you had looked closely at the page Maria was reading, you would have noticed she stopped on the names of Dexter and Debra Morgan.wink.gif

I saw that. I just was wondering why the connection with the boat would make LaGuerta so interested. What she doesn't seem to remember is Doakes' run ins with Dexter which would raise a bigger red flag to me.
post #5369 of 5949
Predictably from each season, we can expect both Isaak and Hannah getting offed in one fashion or another. Maybe, Isaak kills Hannah, maybe she saves Dex by killing Isaak. Maybe, Dex kills them both. Maybe Deb kills one to save Dex. All that said, I'd love to see a scenario where one of these fine actors, Stevenson or Stra"hot"ski, finds a way to survive this season and come back for the finale in S8. They are definitely fun to watch and equally charming in their own way.
post #5370 of 5949
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Originally Posted by daryl zero View Post

I saw that. I just was wondering why the connection with the boat would make LaGuerta so interested.
I can't recall, but did Doakes meet his end around the docks?
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