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TV Notes
Cable ratings: 'Walking Dead' vs. 'Dexter' vs. 'Boardwalk'
By James Hibberd, EW.com's 'Live Feed' Blog - Nov. 21, 2012

You’ve probably heard that The Walking Dead is doing great this season. But what about Showtime’s Homeland and Dexter? And how about HBO’s Boardwalk Empire?

Nielsen releases TV ratings the day after a show airs — except ratings for Sunday night cable shows. They’re typically not revealed until Tuesday, and by that time the Interwebs have often moved on to the next shiny news topic. We’re guilty of that too, so let’s do some catch-up.

The leader of the big Sunday night cable dramas is, of course, The Walking Dead. It’s doing … I can’t even write about how well it’s doing without having a ratings geek-out. Including seven days of DVR, the AMC zombie drama is averaging 13.4 million viewers and a 7.1 rating among adults 18-49. That’s bigger than any other entertainment series in the demo. Like, No. 2 is ABC’s Modern Family with a 6.7 in the demo and CBS’ Big Bang Theory is No. 3 with a 6.5. Of course, among total viewers, it’s a different story, though still big — The Walking Dead ties 60 Minutes for No. 15. The Walking Dead is also up 35 percent from last fall.

The other Sunday cable dramas are well below The Walking Dead, but they really shouldn’t be knocked for it.

The second most-watched cable drama on the night is HBO’s Boardwalk Empire (3.4 million viewers, 1.4 in demo). We haven’t heard much about Boardwalk this season, but aside from a couple dull episodes that aired recently (not this week’s hour), the period drama has been creatively strong. Bobby Cannavale as the show’s new villain has given the series plenty of tense energy. Still, Boardwalk is down 10 percent from last season.

Right on Boardwalk‘s heels is the seventh season of Showtime’s Dexter. The serial killer thriller is up 14 percent from last season with 3.3 million viewers and 1.7 in the demo. The writers seem like they’re trying a little too hard to keep the format the same (given what Debra learned in last season’s finale, everything should have radically changed). But overall this season seems far more grounded and intriguing than last year’s mess. Like with Boardwalk, the new bad guy has helped — in this case, Ray Stevenson as a Ukrainian mobster out for revenge.

Last, and by no means least, is Showtime’s riveting Homeland, averaging 3 million viewers and 1.4 in the demo. The political thriller is up a whopping 52 percent from the first season. This is the only show where I’ll watch episodes on my laptop before they air via a low-res press screening site because I cannot wait to see what happens next.

How things have changed. Only a few years ago cable networks were scared to air dramas during the fall out of fear of competing with the big broadcast networks. Now Sunday is arguably the most DVR-busting night of the week for fans of bold and compelling TV dramas.

Speaking of: There’s one broadcast show I want to give a shout-out to that airs against some of these others: CBS’ The Mentalist (12 million, 2.5 demo), which is supposed to air at 10 p.m. but has been getting shoved into primetime’s nether regions thanks to the network’s Sunday football overrun. The Mentalist was on my DVR’s endangered species list. But this season has had, along with a few goofy and by-the-book procedural hours, some stand-out episodes.

Last Sunday’s episode directed by the show’s star Simon Baker was my favorite episode of the show ever. The story had Patrick Jane (Baker) on a road trip with his fugitive ex-lover, trying to convince her to reveal information about a serial killer. The episode broke the show’s usual format, felt soulful and suspenseful and … why, it felt like a cable drama! Since broadcast dramas still do better in the ratings, on average, than cable dramas, you can argue about whether that’s a good or bad thing (and whether, given the growth trends, that’s still going to be the case in a few more years).

http://insidetv.ew.com/2012/11/21/walking-dead-vs-dexter-vs-boardwalk/

P.S.: greetings from sunny Arizona. I'm on vacation with my folks, traveling around the state; no "Dexter" for me until next week, when I catch-up with two back-to-back, new-to-me "Dexter" episodes. frown.gif
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P.S.: greetings from sunny Arizona. I'm on vacation with my folks, traveling around the state; no "Dexter" for me until next week, when I catch-up with two back-to-back, new-to-me "Dexter" episodes. frown.gif

Enjoy Arizona. This time of year is some of the greatest weather. From Tucson.
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Dad how you doing? I was thinking about Dexter ratings the other day. I hadn't looked up anything which led me to wondering about your posts on this Dexter site.
Your going to love this season. As mentioned it is without a doubt one of the best so far.

To all AVS Dexter followers Have a Happy healthy safe Thanksgiving smile.gif
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Dad how you doing? I was thinking about Dexter ratings the other day. I hadn't looked up anything which led me to wondering about your posts on this Dexter site.
Your going to love this season. As mentioned it is without a doubt one of the best so far.
To all AVS Dexter followers Have a Happy healthy safe Thanksgiving smile.gif

Happy and safe no problem. But my brother in law is cooking so the healthy part goes out the window...hey. its only one day a year! smile.gif
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Happy Thanksgiving, guys! smile.gif
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Happy and safe no problem. But my brother in law is cooking so the healthy part goes out the window...hey. its only one day a year! smile.gif
When the turkey carving begins maybe it would be a good time to explain Dex's "table" to your guests?
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Happy Thanksgiving, guys! smile.gif

And to you Young C wink.gif
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Couldn't watch this week's Dexter episode until last night because I had been out of town for Thanksgiving. Wow, what great TV this season's Dexter shows have been! Last season was so awful, I gave up on it before the end. This season, though, to repeat myself, Wow! The interplay among Dex, Deb, Isaak, and Hannah has been a world's fair. Add to that Quinn's problem with the Ukrainian mob while trying to protect his stripper girlfriend has made the whole thing even more entertaining. Once again, Dexter has become one of my favorite TV shows.
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Couldn't watch this week's Dexter episode until last night because I had been out of town for Thanksgiving. Wow, what great TV this season's Dexter shows have been! Last season was so awful, I gave up on it before the end. This season, though, to repeat myself, Wow! The interplay among Dex, Deb, Isaak, and Hannah has been a world's fair. Add to that Quinn's problem with the Ukrainian mob while trying to protect his stripper girlfriend has made the whole thing even more entertaining. Once again, Dexter has become one of my favorite TV shows.
I knew you would come back to the herd.biggrin.gif
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Good episode tonight.
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Good episode tonight.

Lots of stuff including Hannah's ambivalence at the end.
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Edge of my seat throughout, another absolutely superb episode.
This season is turning out to be one of the best yet.

Very surprised (once again this year) Isaac didn't last until the final episode.

This year has been full of shocks...more, please.cool.gif
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I really regret seeing the last of Isaak. At the end, he was a real friend. However, I think his advice might lead Dexter toward the wrong conclusions vis a vis Hannah. She didn't seem too excited by Dexter being needy and expressing emotion.
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I really regret seeing the last of Isaak. At the end, he was a real friend. However, I think his advice might lead Dexter toward the wrong conclusions vis a vis Hannah. She didn't seem too excited by Dexter being needy and expressing emotion.

That was a strange moment towards the end. At the beginning of the episode she wanted him to open up, and when he finally did, she seemed...disappointed? I couldn't really read what emotion was flickering across her face, but it definitely didn't seem like happiness.

RIP Isaak. Ray Stevenson had a great story arc this season and he nailed it. Kudos to him.
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I really regret seeing the last of Isaak. At the end, he was a real friend. However, I think his advice might lead Dexter toward the wrong conclusions vis a vis Hannah. She didn't seem too excited by Dexter being needy and expressing emotion.

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That was a strange moment towards the end. At the beginning of the episode she wanted him to open up, and when he finally did, she seemed...disappointed? I couldn't really read what emotion was flickering across her face, but it definitely didn't seem like happiness.
RIP Isaak. Ray Stevenson had a great story arc this season and he nailed it. Kudos to him.

Or maybe this was Isaak's plan all along. Knowing what these emotions would do to dexter (from what he had learned earlier), would lead to a sort of self destruction of Dexter's world.......I think Hannah liked the push back Dexter gave her, when he opened up it was dissapointment that he had these feelings, it made him "weak", just my humble opinion on one of the things that coul,d be happening...

Remember Isaaks promise was that he wouldnt kill him, but Isaak still needed revenge, so wouldnt it be perfect for Dexter to cause his own death? Isaak would keep his word at the same time getting revenge from beyond the grave....
Edited by Ph8te - 11/26/12 at 7:12am
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Or maybe this was Isaak's plan all along. Knowing what these emotions would do to dexter (from what he had learned earlier), would lead to a sort of self destruction of Dexter's world.......I think Hannah liked the push back Dexter gave her, when he opened up it was dissapointment that he had these feelings, it made him "weak", just my humble opinion on one of the things that coul,d be happening...

I immediately thought about something she said earlier in the season, about how she had problems getting too attached to people or something (and how they presumably died). And maybe that was a flicker of recognition crossing her face at the end--maybe she was hoping to avoid that situation.
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I really regret seeing the last of Isaak. At the end, he was a real friend. However, I think his advice might lead Dexter toward the wrong conclusions vis a vis Hannah. She didn't seem too excited by Dexter being needy and expressing emotion.

I agree. His role in Dexter was nice. I enjoyed him this season.
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Dexter was excellent last night. Who would have thought Isaac and Dexter would be friends at the end. I agree Ray Stevenson will be missed. I can't remember a better Season of Dexter.
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Interesting about Deb. I saw the story arc obviously leading to Deb making a decision about whether to save Hannah's life or not. She didn't hesitate other to say "send an [effing] ambulance".

I don't think Isaak was being anything but honest to Dexter. Isaak didn't know about Hannah's issues and I thought that Isaak felt a real kinship with Dexter. I really believe he was trying to help him at the end. Not sure why Isaak said he was dead when he was gut shot. Its not like medicine hasn't improved since the Unforgiven. wink.gif

Hannah's reaction was really interesting in that a second earlier she seemed really happy to see him. Perhaps we are reading something that wasn't there but when Dexter crawled up next to her that seemed really awkward.

We still have other storylines out there: LaGuerta, Quinn and this human torcher. Interesting to see where they go with all this.
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Isaac had the cops on one side chasing him and the mob on the other wanting to make sure he's dead.
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LaGuerta is and has been Dex's biggest threat this year.
She is being setup to become the "decider" in the series of his ultimate fate played out next season.
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Please don't be cliche and make the arson investigator the torcher! Now Dexter is an arson expert,LOL One of the hardest crimes to prove and very strict regarding "chain of evidence".
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Laguerta deserves to be "slabbed" for sure... so does Quinn

Will Dexter go after the strip club guy? he clearly saw him kill Isaak, did he?

Yeah it seems the arson investigator is prime suspect of being the arsonist..
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Laguerta deserves to be "slabbed" for sure... so does Quinn
Will Dexter go after the strip club guy? he clearly saw him kill Isaak, did he?
Yeah it seems the arson investigator is prime suspect of being the arsonist..
+1
I think 3 of the 4 will be "slabbed."

For some reason I am beginning to think Quinn will meet his end another way.wink.gif
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Isaac had the cops on one side chasing him and the mob on the other wanting to make sure he's dead.

^^ This, he knew he wouldnt make it out of the hospital alive....

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Please don't be cliche and make the arson investigator the torcher! Now Dexter is an arson expert,LOL One of the hardest crimes to prove and very strict regarding "chain of evidence".

too late wink.gif how else will we get some good jokes in there ;-) ....
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Please don't be cliche and make the arson investigator the torcher!

The second I saw him in the car I thought to myself "he's the killer." I hope he isn't, but he was acting strange in the elevator, and when Dexter tried to correct him at the car crime scene he got very defensive saying something like "who's the arson expert?" I hope they are misdirecting us, but...

I agree about Isaak's early demise. He was a great foe and will be missed. Hannah definitely looked annoyed at the end of the episode... I think the fatal attraction just diminished.
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Does anybody has a screenshot of the elevator scene? seems that the shape and height of the "arsonist" matches the arson investigation guy, maybe even same angle.. but what about "Bobby"?
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Gotta believe the investigator is too obvious a choice--though he clearly knows something since he zoned out during the elevator scene.

On a somewhat unrelated note, it was hilarious when he kept popping up and scaring the cops while poking around car.
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Please don't be cliche and make the arson investigator the torcher!

On no, we forgot to plot out the last three episodes of the season! Quick, throw in a stock serial killer...
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but what about "Bobby"?
I recognized him immediately in the preview.
Great to have him on the show!cool.gif
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