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Originally Posted by Yrd View Post

Why does it matter how many pills she took. The water she was drinking was tested and had the drug in it. Only 2 people could have possibly put it in there. Deb to frame Hannah or Hannah to kill off Deb. Dexter killed Hannah's father, why can't she return the favor with Deb? After all, the best solution to any problem is murder. Also, Hanna either realizes how protective of Deb he is, or she doesn't. I think she does know. I think Deb planted the evidence.
I don't remember exactly how it played out, but Dexter's planting evidence plan just ends and then we go to a scene with Deb in either her own or Laguerta's house, it wasn't clear to me which house it was at the time.
Laguerta suspects Dexter is BHK, so why didn't she just tail him to the meeting. She has people following the convict, for obvious reasons, why didn't she follow Dex? It would have proved to herself beyond a doubt who he is.
It matters because if she took more than one it is a contradicts what she told Dexter and proves that she tried 'upping' her levels. The fact that it was in the water was just for 'Dexter's sake'.
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Could the water have been planted after the accident? The car flipped and Deb was hanging from her seatbelt, yet Dex found the water on the floor of her car.
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Originally Posted by scowl View Post

Could the water have been planted after the accident? The car flipped and Deb was hanging from her seatbelt, yet Dex found the water on the floor of her car.
Planted by who? Deb was in the Hospital and I still doubt Hanna did it. Hanna knows everything about Dex. EVERYTHING. She was right about "you should have killed me"
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Originally Posted by Wytchone View Post

Planted by who? Deb was in the Hospital and I still doubt Hanna did it. Hanna knows everything about Dex. EVERYTHING. She was right about "you should have killed me"

Which I interpreted as, "you would have been doing me a favor by killing me instead of sending me to jail."

That was another nice bit of acting between Hall and YS, btw.

Also loved watching Deb's reaction when Arlene is screaming at her kids. Equal parts amazement, disgust and understanding.
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It was the earlier one on one conversation between Hannah and Deb that changed the whole situation. Name one woman that is going to share her man? They both love Dexter but Deb could not and would not ever share him especially with Hannah, especially after she told Dexter that she in fact loved him beyond the "brother" aspect of their relationship. Hannah was a romantic threat and Deb was not changing although being a hypocrite since her brother/s were serial killers as was Hannah? I give Hannah credit for trying, she could have poisoned Deb easily and even said that to Dexter. She knew if she killed Deb it would have driven Dexter away whereas Deb knew it would plant that doubt into Dexter head. Not sure if was accidental or intentional, I'm leaning towards accidental since Deb is very prideful. I also believe that Hannah told the truth to Dexter but just went into "man mode" and tuned out what he didn't want to hear in other words he didn't listen to what she was trying to tell him, and made his mind up already. The whole babysitter thing is also weird? She has no life beyond raising Harrison? I would have chosen her over Hannah to get close to just my opinion.
post #5646 of 6855
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Originally Posted by hhaller View Post

Which I interpreted as, "you would have been doing me a favor by killing me instead of sending me to jail."
That was another nice bit of acting between Hall and YS, btw.
Also loved watching Deb's reaction when Arlene is screaming at her kids. Equal parts amazement, disgust and understanding.

I did also but the more I think about it. Hanna is a HUGE security risk for Dex. It could go either way.
post #5647 of 6855
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Originally Posted by daryl zero View Post

The writing this year has been really good until this episode where we are back to Dexter doing stupid things just to advance the storyline. I hope that the season doesn't end with a bad taste in my mouth.

Yeah, they pushed it this episode, but the season in general is a nice recovery from last year.
Dex not researching the WHY in Estrada's release was a serious fail of his normal Spidey Sense
and a little too fast. Instead he's thinking "He's out! He's Mine" a moment after he get's the call from DepOfCorrections?
or did Hanna help by saying something about the Universe giving a Present?
Edited by thedeskE - 12/10/12 at 1:50pm
post #5648 of 6855
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Originally Posted by thedeskE View Post

Yeah, they pushed it this episode, but the season in general is a nice recovery from last year.
Dex not researching the WHY in Estrada's release was a serious fail of his normal Spidey Sense
and a little too fast. Instead it was "He's out! He's Mine" a moment after he get's the call from some
service? No poking around the computer for detail.

The stated reason for Estrada's release was "deteriorating health". After Dexter saw him running to catch the bus, he just assumed it was a sob story for early release.
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Originally Posted by hhaller View Post

The stated reason for Estrada's release was "deteriorating health". After Dexter saw him running to catch the bus, he just assumed it was a sob story for early release.

Ah, you're right wink.gif
post #5650 of 6855
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Originally Posted by DrLar View Post

Loved that Deb didn't trash her own car, her E36, the one wreked is an E46 (perhaps Carpenter loved it so much and they used another)
LOL, very car-nerdy observation.
However, no one really loves BMWs.tongue.gif
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Matthews?
Did Dex spike the bottle of booze?

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Originally Posted by Yrd View Post

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Laguerta suspects Dexter is BHK, so why didn't she just tail him to the meeting. She has people following the convict, for obvious reasons, why didn't she follow Dex? It would have proved to herself beyond a doubt who he is.
Dex is a cop and might have noticed the tail.

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Originally Posted by daryl zero View Post

Deb planted the tackle box and/or the key to the boathouse and it was at LaGuerta's house where the evidence boxes were. The evidence found at the boathouse was probably planted by Dexter.
Didn't Dex tell Deb he would "take care" of the LaGuerta thing and not to get involved?confused.gif
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Originally Posted by hhaller View Post

Which I interpreted as, "you would have been doing me a favor by killing me instead of sending me to jail."
Agreed.
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So if Hannah killed Price with aconite on the tip of his pen, why didn't Deb find it when she tested Price's blood for it? Especially when she was looking specifically for aconite. And Hannah told Dexter that she used something untraceable to kill Price. But aconite is traceable because Price found it in the blood of one of Hannah's previous victims. confused.gif
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Originally Posted by cuzzin View Post

So if Hannah killed Price with aconite on the tip of his pen, why didn't Deb find it when she tested Price's blood for it? Especially when she was looking specifically for aconite. And Hannah told Dexter that she used something untraceable to kill Price. But aconite is traceable because Price found it in the blood of one of Hannah's previous victims. confused.gif

Good point. She used something untraceable and we never saw Dex steal the pen and hide it. I tend to think this is the writer's being lazy or thinking the audience wouldn't remember another substance (since the only one mentioned was aconite), but it does leave open certain possibliities. Maybe Dex is giving her an out in a faulty evidence chain. Maybe just poor writing. I'm on board with Deb framing Hannah as Yvonne wouldn't have missed and she wouldn't use prescription drugs. I suspected something tragic would happen to Hannah and from the previews maybe I'm right. I'll be very sorry to see her go. That said, if Deb did it, I think Hannah lets Dex know and that will definitely change the dynamics of Deb/Dex next season. I view Hannah (in the best possilble light) as Dex's chance for a real life and future. It seems the show is rejecting that (as they do all possible hopeful endings to Dex's saga). That disappoints...not only do I really enjoy Yvonne as Hannah, it closes off most positive outcomes for Season 8.
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Originally Posted by Ron Temple View Post

That disappoints...not only do I really enjoy Yvonne as Hannah, it closes off most positive outcomes for Season 8.

Hmmmm....I never counted on a positive outcome for S-8. Dex isn't living happily ever after with Hannah or anyone else. Hollywood Karma couldn't allow it. Best we can hope for is Deb and Angel make it, and I'm not too sure about Angel, or La Guerta either. I'm reasonable certain Masuka and the world's hottest and most available babysitter, and her reason-for-living Harrison will survive, however.
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Originally Posted by archiguy View Post

Hmmmm....I never counted on a positive outcome for S-8. Dex isn't living happily ever after with Hannah or anyone else. Hollywood Karma couldn't allow it. Best we can hope for is Deb and Angel make it, and I'm not too sure about Angel, or La Guerta either. I'm reasonable certain Masuka and the world's hottest and most available babysitter, and her reason-for-living Harrison will survive, however.
I've doubted a positive outcome all along, but leaving the possibility open and the chance that Dex and his extremely hot girlfriend somehow find Argentina a wonderful place is more than a bit intrigueing. I'd have a smile on my face. This has always been about a serial killer that we can identify with and root for. Why not? biggrin.gif
post #5656 of 6855
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Originally Posted by Ron Temple View Post

Good point. She used something untraceable and we never saw Dex steal the pen and hide it..
Price would have brought the pen with him to Dexter's house. While they were talking, it probably rolled under the couch or something.
post #5657 of 6855
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Originally Posted by Ron Temple View Post

I've doubted a positive outcome all along, but leaving the possibility open and the chance that Dex and his extremely hot girlfriend somehow find Argentina a wonderful place is more than a bit intrigueing. I'd have a smile on my face. This has always been about a serial killer that we can identify with and root for. Why not? biggrin.gif

I've thought about that too. They've mentioned Argentina so many times already. So I'm thinking that there are three possible outcomes for Hannah at this point:

1. Murdered by Dexter or Deb b/c she knows too much
2. Commits suicide in prison
3. Runs away to Argentina

Having said that, I'm sure that the possibility for #1 to happen is much, much greater than any other option.
post #5658 of 6855
So what do y'all think the odds are that the season ends with Dexter's arrest? I'm not sure how the final season would go but it would be an interesting idea.
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I feel like, being this close to the end, that Dexter can't get out of this mess completely. If he were to dispose of Laguerta or just finally convince her that he isn't the Butcher, then next season really couldn't deal with Dexter getting caught without feeling like a repeat of this season. It's been building up to this all season long. If he gets off scott free, that will be a serious cop out. And we're too close to the end for cop outs.
post #5660 of 6855
"Dex is a cop and might have noticed the tail".

Dexter is a civilian! He's a non sworn employee of the Police department. No badge or gun. Just his Police department employee ID. I get a laugh when he starts becoming Quincy when he is at a crime scene! biggrin.gif
post #5661 of 6855
So which of all these story lines carry over to the last season?

Sheesh - Deb destroys Dex's only chance for some kind of peace, as well as lying to his face (they clearly showed her taking multiple pills at the end of last weeks epi IIRC.)

Serious bad guy on the loose who knows way too much about Dex.

LaGuerta trying to out psycho Deb in the personal obsession dept.

Hannah with a few bargaining chips and a history of self-preservation, sitting in jail.

Deb's instability and Dex's absolute faith in her are on a collision course. I hope the great irony isn't going to be her getting him killed, then feeling all bad about it.
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I continue to be impressed by this season. (Why did they bother with last season?) Poor Dex, I was rooting for him. Maybe, with some TV magic, he and Hannah aren't doomed. I totally missed that LaGuerta could be getting the guy paroled from prison. Nice one! Also, I didn't bother to rewind, but was that Dokes I saw in the previews??

larry
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Originally Posted by PooperScooper View Post

I continue to be impressed by this season. (Why did they bother with last season?) Poor Dex, I was rooting for him. Maybe, with some TV magic, he and Hannah aren't doomed. I totally missed that LaGuerta could be getting the guy paroled from prison. Nice one! Also, I didn't bother to rewind, but was that Dokes I saw in the previews??

+1! I loved every minute of it too. Like you, I wish Dexter's romance with Hannah could survive. Their scenes together crackle with electricity. Hannah is a genius at projecting neediness to disguise her stone cold killer core. Dexter does the same thing except his cover is nerdy shyness. I laughed out loud when Hannah told Dexter he had to know she had not been responsible for Deb's accident because all of Hannah's victims die.smile.gif
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Might I kindly suggest you don't talk about the previews? Some of us don't watch them because they give away too much, and we want to remain surprised during each episode. We do have spoiler tags...

Regarding what I think is going to happen (not what the previews show, which I now went back and watched because they were already ruined in this forum for me), I do think Dexter gets arrested and doesn't some how get out of it. He simply cannot wiggle out of this without it being a huge cop out (as already mentioned). He could be broken out by Debra, however, and then the final season deals with them being on the run and going into hiding. If that happens, they'll both go down in the end, but they'll be together.

For the finale, my guess is this:
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
Deb kills Hannah in prison some how, breaks out Dexter (probably by simply having him "transferred," of which she'll volunteer to do), and then they hightail it out of Miami at the end of the episode.

Oh yeah - I love the show, but I noticed everyone is rooting for Dexter. I am not. I want him to die. He's a psychopath and a serial killer! Since we know season 8 will be the last, he needs to pay for his crimes. I've never been "rooting" for him except maybe for the sake of wanting the show to have a few more seasons. Now that we know there is only one left, he needs to pay (die).
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Originally Posted by archiguy View Post

Hmmmm....I never counted on a positive outcome for S-8. Dex isn't living happily ever after with Hannah or anyone else. Hollywood Karma couldn't allow it. Best we can hope for is Deb and Angel make it, and I'm not too sure about Angel, or La Guerta either. I'm reasonable certain Masuka and the world's hottest and most available babysitter, and her reason-for-living Harrison will survive, however.
Considering we are heading into the final chapter of Dexter, I don't think anyone is safe.
This series has a habit of shocking with unforeseen deaths.

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Originally Posted by hhaller View Post

I've thought about that too. They've mentioned Argentina so many times already. So I'm thinking that there are three possible outcomes for Hannah at this point:
1. Murdered by Dexter or Deb b/c she knows too much
2. Commits suicide in prison
3. Runs away to Argentina
Having said that, I'm sure that the possibility for #1 to happen is much, much greater than any other option.
Feeling guilty for being snookered by Deb, Dex busts Hannah out of jail and they head to Argentina next year?

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Originally Posted by daryl zero View Post

So what do y'all think the odds are that the season ends with Dexter's arrest? I'm not sure how the final season would go but it would be an interesting idea.
Don't think so.
Dex in jail for the final season would be a snoozefest.

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Originally Posted by Sharp1080 View Post

"Dex is a cop and might have noticed the tail".
Dexter is a civilian! He's a non sworn employee of the Police department. No badge or gun. Just his Police department employee ID. I get a laugh when he starts becoming Quincy when he is at a crime scene! biggrin.gif
True, but he does know police procedures and has spotted police surveillance before.wink.gif
post #5666 of 6855
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Originally Posted by Nuance View Post

Might I kindly suggest you don't talk about the previews? Some of us don't watch them because they give away too much, and we want to remain surprised during each episode. We do have spoiler tags...
+1

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He could be broken out by Debra, however, and then the final season deals with them being on the run and going into hiding. If that happens, they'll both go down in the end, but they'll be together.
Not bad at all.smile.gif

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He's a psychopath and a serial killer!
Yes, well....there's that.biggrin.gif

But he is an Avenging Angel too.wink.gif
post #5667 of 6855
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Originally Posted by Sharp1080 View Post

"Dex is a cop and might have noticed the tail".
Dexter is a civilian! He's a non sworn employee of the Police department. No badge or gun. Just his Police department employee ID. I get a laugh when he starts becoming Quincy when he is at a crime scene! biggrin.gif

He's also a serial killer who has gotten away with it for, what, 10 years? So you can't blame LaGuerta for being cautious...plus, its one thing to order a tail on an ex-con, but ordering one on a blood guy in the dept. might raise some eyebrows. The way LaGuerta did it makes perfect sense.
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Originally Posted by Nuance View Post

Might I kindly suggest you don't talk about the previews? Some of us don't watch them because they give away too much, and we want to remain surprised during each episode. We do have spoiler tags...
Regarding what I think is going to happen (not what the previews show, which I now went back and watched because they were already ruined in this forum for me), I do think Dexter gets arrested and doesn't some how get out of it. He simply cannot wiggle out of this without it being a huge cop out (as already mentioned). He could be broken out by Debra, however, and then the final season deals with them being on the run and going into hiding. If that happens, they'll both go down in the end, but they'll be together. .

The show almost always misleads with the previews. I remember well in the second season, the previews looked like Dexter was being arrested when he wasn't. Remember, Dexter often uses dream or daydream sequences during the show which could easily be used in the previews to mislead.
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Originally Posted by lonwolf615 View Post

He's also a serial killer who has gotten away with it for, what, 10 years? So you can't blame LaGuerta for being cautious...plus, its one thing to order a tail on an ex-con, but ordering one on a blood guy in the dept. might raise some eyebrows. The way LaGuerta did it makes perfect sense.

She didn't need to put other cops on the tail. She could have done it herself. She is, after all, obsessed with this particular case. Tailing him or putting a gps tracker on his vehicle would have put away any doubts about what Dexter is, to herself.
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Originally Posted by Yrd View Post

She didn't need to put other cops on the tail. She could have done it herself. She is, after all, obsessed with this particular case. Tailing him or putting a gps tracker on his vehicle would have put away any doubts about what Dexter is, to herself.

And weaken her court case...what she did was much more believable.
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