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post #6661 of 6855
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Originally Posted by Nuance View Post

Maybe. However, I didn't think Dex looked focused at the end; he looked lost and in pain IMO.

Agreed. He let go of Hannah and Harrison to protect them, because he ruins every relationship that has meaning - Rita & Deb. His love for Hannah overcame his need to kill. He let Saxon be arrested by police because he no longer HAD to kill. He only killed him for revenge for Deb. Now in his self imposed exile after faking his death, he is truly miserable. Who knows, his dark passenger may return. I don't see him ever going back to Hannah and Harrison and I do think she truly loved Dex and will care for Harrison.

Anyone have any insights into the whole hiking in the mountains deal that Deb was going on about? Was that just delirium or the drugs? Seemed out of left field.
post #6662 of 6855
I think Dexter's full intention was making sure they suspect him dead at sea, planned it out, remember he just said to the guy that wanted to buy the boat that it had autopilot and a life raft.

I was kind of sad watching Deb die, so she was brain dead right? but he should left her to die in the hospital so she could be buried, but I guess he wanted to bury her at sea
post #6663 of 6855
Lets see Dexter drives right into the eye of the hurricane and ends up driving a log truck?
post #6664 of 6855
He obviously used the raft to get back before hitting the magic hurricane that is barely windy a few miles from the coast, hey special effects guys forgot to bring the big arse fans or something

Bad CGI we could clearly see it was sunny they just darken the camera (1970's called they want their technology back)
post #6665 of 6855
To me, from Episode One, Dexter was a ground breaking series that took us in a direction that, as far as I can remember, had never been plotted before .. it helped lay the groundwork for shows like Breaking Bad and others that were dark, and dealt with topics that were, perhaps, a bit off limits before .. it showed the studios that there is a solid audience for this type of material ..

Thru the great, the good and the not so good seasons, I stuck with it not just for the concept (which was brilliant) .. but for the cast that brought it all to life .. those guys just seemed to mesh just right .. Michael C Hall, Jennifer Carpenter, Desmond Harriington, David Zayas, James Remar, C.S. Lee, Lauren Velez .. and the fine cast of characters that visited us each Season ... especially Keith Carradine, Jimmy Smits, John Lithgow, Mos Def and others ..

Yes, it was inconsistent at times, but, none the less, I'll miss it on my Sunday night lineup ..

A film .. ?? I hope not .. to me, Dex was best watched as a series ..

Finally .. I thought the ending shots with Deb and Dex were so sad .. no matter what the Finale may have done right or wrong, those scenes were done right ..

I would have let the "Slice" be found and Dex would have stayed dead .. however, if I would have ended it with Dex alive .. the final scene would have been a very old Dexter Morgan sitting in a wheelchair in a nursing home ..

At any rate, cheers to the eight years ..
post #6666 of 6855
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Originally Posted by daryl zero View Post

Not so much with Harrison? (Is Dexter the worst tv father ever? Harrison seems to exist to get Dexter annoyed.) Anyone who has kids knows that the biological push you get with kids pretty much outweighs the mating love with the exception of the initial twitterpation stage.
Serial killers aren't known for their parenting skills.wink.gif

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Originally Posted by mgkdragn View Post

the cast that brought it all to life .. those guys just seemed to mesh just right .. Michael C Hall, Jennifer Carpenter, Desmond Harriington, David Zayas, James Remar, C.S. Lee, Lauren Velez .. and the fine cast of characters that visited us each Season ... especially Keith Carradine, Jimmy Smits, John Lithgow, Mos Def and others ..

Yes, it was inconsistent at times, but, none the less, I'll miss it on my Sunday night lineup ..
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I thought the ending shots with Deb and Dex were so sad .. no matter what the Finale may have done right or wrong, those scenes were done right.
Very touching....we got a lump in our throats.

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however, if I would have ended it with Dex alive .. the final scene would have been a very old Dexter Morgan sitting in a wheelchair in a nursing home ..
That would have been better than what we got.
post #6667 of 6855
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Originally Posted by archiguy View Post

Dude, we've tried to tell you - BB is no more about meth dealing than 'The Sopranos' was about mob whacking ...

Well that's kind of the problem ... Ever since "The Sopranos," everyone has been a rush to do their own "anti-hero-hero" show. And like the "Survivor," "Amazing Race" pool, there's only so much water.

PS: I officially reached my limit with "Ray Donovan" ... although I suspect that unofficially I reached my limit a long time ago, I just didn't realize it.
post #6668 of 6855
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Originally Posted by DrLar View Post

I think Dexter's full intention was making sure they suspect him dead at sea, planned it out, remember he just said to the guy that wanted to buy the boat that it had autopilot and a life raft.

I was kind of sad watching Deb die, so she was brain dead right? but he should left her to die in the hospital so she could be buried, but I guess he wanted to bury her at sea

Good catch on the life raft and auto-pilot.

I think the doctor said she would always require a feeding tube, was incubated for breathing and would have limited brain function. That is a fate worse than death, IMHO. Quinn believes in miracles, but not Dex. A lot can go wrong with evacuations from hurricanes as we learned in real life from New Orleans. One missing body from a hospital, it happens.
post #6669 of 6855
What happened with Masuka and his daughter!? They did not even touch on it.
post #6670 of 6855
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Originally Posted by Young C View Post

What happened with Masuka and his daughter!? They did not even touch on it.
That will be dealt with in the spin-off....wink.gif
post #6671 of 6855
I get a chuckle over the contributors to this thread who -- after religiously watching every episode of Dexter for eight years -- then pontificate about how bad parts or all of it really
were.
post #6672 of 6855
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Originally Posted by wjbjr View Post

I get a chuckle over the contributors to this thread who -- after religiously watching every episode of Dexter for eight years -- then pontificate about how bad parts or all of it really
were.

Why is that?  People often watch a show "religiously" and find certain facets disappointing.  Dexter is one of those shows that developed a very strong following early on, but (to many) kind of lost its way toward the end.  That is usually harder to accept than a show that was mediocre from start to finish.  I get a chuckle from the posters who seem to feel that only positive commentary is normal and criticism means "don't comment". 

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Originally Posted by flint350 View Post

Why is that?  People often watch a show "religiously" and find certain facets disappointing.  Dexter is one of those shows that developed a very strong following early on, but (to many) kind of lost its way toward the end.  That is usually harder to accept than a show that was mediocre from start to finish.  I get a chuckle from the posters who seem to feel that only positive commentary is normal and criticism means "don't comment". 

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post #6674 of 6855
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Originally Posted by flint350 View Post

I get a chuckle from the posters who seem to feel that only positive commentary is normal and criticism means "don't comment". 
Hmmm....reminds of one half of the political spectrum.biggrin.gif
post #6675 of 6855
Myself, the critical comments vs the good comments don't really bother me one way or another ..

I don't expect everyone to like what I like or dislike what I dislike ..

Speaking for myself, I have never seen a Dexter episode that was just purely a waste of time and caused me to stop and erase it .. IOW, I'll take Dexter at it's worst over many other shows ..

But I do understand that there may be some that have .. I'm convinced they are in the minority, though .. wink.gif
post #6676 of 6855
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Originally Posted by mgkdragn View Post

Myself, the critical comments vs the good comments don't really bother me one way or another ..

I don't expect everyone to like what I like or dislike what I dislike ..

Speaking for myself, I have never seen a Dexter episode that was just purely a waste of time and caused me to stop and erase it .. IOW, I'll take Dexter at it's worst over many other shows ..

But I do understand that there may be some that have .. I'm convinced they are in the minority, though .. wink.gif
Agreed.
post #6677 of 6855
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Originally Posted by mgkdragn View Post

Speaking for myself, I have never seen a Dexter episode that was just purely a waste of time and caused me to stop and erase it .

Maybe not purely (i.e., in it's entirety) a waste of time, but there have been many episodes the last few years that contain subplots that are indeed wastes of time.

Especially this season:
What role did Elway play?
What about Jaime?
What about Detective Miller?
Why did we care that the US Marshalls were looking for Hannah, when they could have just had one of the police officers from Miami Metro (who were all working on unrelated subplots instead) take up the reigns?
Why did we go from one episode where Deb is ready to kill Hannah, to the next where they are jolly roommates?
Why was Masuka's daughter introduced?
Why introduce Zach, spend time building up his character and motivations, give Dexter something to do for a few episodes, and then promptly kill him before anyone has learned anything from the experience?

The season had too many plot threads. It would have been masterful to spend the last 12 hours of Dexter with a carefully plotted out endgame that involved all of the characters we already knew and cared about while at the same time introducing a minimal amount of new characters whom we couldn't care less about. Instead we got dozens of mini side-stories, most of which appear on the face of it to be setting some of the characters up for unnecessary spin-off sequels.
post #6678 of 6855
Was I dreaming, or was "Slice of Life" that he wheeled up to the hospital to take Deb away in a much SMALLER version of that boat than it actually has always been?? I didn't see those vertical exhaust pipes and the rest of the "superstructure" in front of the wheel as has always been the case, and which was very clearly shown during his attempt to sell the boat to the beer drinker.

In fact, I was trying to decide if this was the so-called "life raft", it was so much smaller.

Probably I should re-watch the episode to see if I was falling asleep during last night's watching, but it sure seemed to me to be a different boat. Perhaps they needed a smaller boat to pull up dockside at the hospital, but to me that is REALLY CHEATING THE VIEWERS OF THIS SHOW (assuming I'm correct, and not crazy).

Also... Harrison now brought up by an "adopted mother" who is herself another serial killer?? Will Hannah impart "The Code"? Do we see another "tortured" life story for him?

Who cares...
post #6679 of 6855
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Originally Posted by DSperber View Post

Was I dreaming, or was "Slice of Life" that he wheeled up to the hospital to take Deb away in a much SMALLER version of that boat than it actually has always been?? I didn't see those vertical exhaust pipes and the rest of the "superstructure" in front of the wheel as has always been the case, and which was very clearly shown during his attempt to sell the boat to the beer drinker.

In fact, I was trying to decide if this was the so-called "life raft", it was so much smaller.

Probably I should re-watch the episode to see if I was falling asleep during last night's watching, but it sure seemed to me to be a different boat. Perhaps they needed a smaller boat to pull up dockside at the hospital, but to me that is REALLY CHEATING THE VIEWERS OF THIS SHOW (assuming I'm correct, and not crazy).
Now we've stepped into the Twilight Zone...eek.gif
post #6680 of 6855
I'm pretty sure the same model Whitewater 28 footer was used throughout the show .. although a stunt double may have been employed .. wink.gif

post #6681 of 6855
I am new to this show. In this picture, Dexter's dead brother killed the motel guy? How is this possible? Or did I miss something? Thanks.
post #6682 of 6855
I think the fact that the Dexter character evolved this past season hasn't sat well with some.

Regarding this list, let me take a stab at it

What role did Elway play?
He was the vehicle that Deb used to get from the point where she quit to realize she wanted back into the department. He was somewhat of a surrogate brother figure for her
What about Jaime?
She was required to deal with Harrison and was also an integral part of the triangle that included Quinn and Deb
What about Detective Miller?
No clue
Why did we care that the US Marshalls were looking for Hannah, when they could have just had one of the police officers from Miami Metro (who were all working on unrelated subplots instead) take up the reigns?
Why not? No seriously, stuff can happen w/o there need for it to be critical to the main plot. Maybe it was intended as a sort of MacGuffin?
Why did we go from one episode where Deb is ready to kill Hannah, to the next where they are jolly roommates?
Was it really that quick. Also keep in mind how Deb felt about Dexter and wanted to help him any way she could. Making Dexter losing her even more painful
Why was Masuka's daughter introduced?
Maybe an example of a "normal family" for Dexter to see which cased him focus more on how screwed up things with his family had become.
Why introduce Zach, spend time building up his character and motivations, give Dexter something to do for a few episodes, and then promptly kill him before anyone has learned anything from the experience?
Yet another example of how Dexter has negatively impacted someone close to him

That's just off the top of my head. No one was going to be 100% satisfied with the ending. When I read people's thoughts about this season, I think well yeah, it was crazy ragged and all over the place. Much like Dexter's life had become. Dexter was beginning to change, emotionally and it impacted his behavior. It impacted things he did. His world unraveled. His past did come back to haunt him and his penance was worse then death. He has to live with knowing the pain he caused and also knowing he will never be with the ones who he really loved and loved him.

It's much darker then others have suggested. In that sense, it's very much...Dexter.
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^Nice observations.cool.gif
post #6684 of 6855
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Originally Posted by tighr View Post

Maybe not purely (i.e., in it's entirety) a waste of time, but there have been many episodes the last few years that contain subplots that are indeed wastes of time.

Especially this season:
What role did Elway play?
What about Jaime?
What about Detective Miller?
Why did we care that the US Marshalls were looking for Hannah, when they could have just had one of the police officers from Miami Metro (who were all working on unrelated subplots instead) take up the reigns?
Why did we go from one episode where Deb is ready to kill Hannah, to the next where they are jolly roommates?
Why was Masuka's daughter introduced?
Why introduce Zach, spend time building up his character and motivations, give Dexter something to do for a few episodes, and then promptly kill him before anyone has learned anything from the experience?

The season had too many plot threads. It would have been masterful to spend the last 12 hours of Dexter with a carefully plotted out endgame that involved all of the characters we already knew and cared about while at the same time introducing a minimal amount of new characters whom we couldn't care less about. Instead we got dozens of mini side-stories, most of which appear on the face of it to be setting some of the characters up for unnecessary spin-off sequels.

Agree, Miami Metro was just not there.
Spin-Off Of What? Nothing happened.
3 to 5 seasons happened (being generous) and then.....paychecks/auto pilot/call it what you will
The 3-5 are not going to suddenly suck, so.. wink.gif
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oh lol, that was the last episode ... meh... at least there wasnt any Vogel in it.
post #6688 of 6855
For me, Dexter was an exciting show in the beginning and had some great years, but was always slightly unrealistic in its plotting, even given its premise. The characters always acted in somewhat cliche-ish ways. Too many coincidences. Often too predictable. In other words, the writing was B+ level rather than A - which is still pretty good and enjoyable. The finale was a little too slow moving for me at times, with sappy parts, but personally I liked the resolution. Deb brain dead and mercy-killed. (All those rumors of a spinoff for Deb were meant to throw us off the track.) Hannah gets away to Argentina with Harrison. Dexter kills Saxon while in custody and gets away with it, then fakes his own death and starts a new life solo. Not bad.

Those people who thought Dexter needed to be punished - why? Because he broke the law? Fifty years ago the Hollywood "code" required the guilty to be punished. No longer the case. Dexter may have made a few mistakes along the way that killed innocent people, but basically he did good (even if illegal) things - prevented additional murders by serial killers. I wanted to see him get away and survive. Would have preferred that he and Hannah make it safely to Argentina - and it would have been more realistic if he had - but deciding to disappear in order to give Hannah and Harrison a better chance was a good touch.
post #6689 of 6855
From the "Hot Off The Press" Thread (top of 'HDTV Programming' page). cool.gif


Nielsen Overnights (Cable)
A killer series finale for ‘Dexter’
Showtime drama posts a series-high 2.8 million viewers

The series finale of “Dexter” became the most-watched program in Showtime history last night despite facing CBS’s Emmy awards and NBC’s “Sunday Night Football” on Sunday.

The eighth-season ender drew 2.8 million total viewers in the 9 p.m. timeslot, 13 percent better than the 2.5 million who tuned into the season-eight premiere over the summer.

The show was also up 100,000 over the season seven finale, the previous most-watched episode of “Dexter.”

It marked the biggest audience for a Showtime original program in the network’s history.

Another 500,000 viewers caught replays of the program later in the night as well.

“Dexter” is averaging 6.4 million total viewers per week across multiple platforms, including Showtime on demand and online viewing, up from 6.1 million last season.

The huge lead-in from “Dexter” lifted “Ray Donovan” to some strong numbers as well. The drama closed its first season with 2.1 million viewers, the best-ever finale for a first-year series on Showtime, outpacing even “Homeland.”

“Donovan,” which has already been renewed for a second season, averaged 1.4 million viewers per episode, an all-time high for a new Showtime series.

Clearly the strong competition on broadcast, including the Emmy Awards and a “Sunday Night Football” game, both of which drew more than 15 million total viewers, didn’t hurt cable’s numbers last night.

Here are some other highlights from last night’s cable overnights:

* “Breaking Bad” was in the odd position of competing with itself. The penultimate episode of the hugely popular AMC drama aired opposite the Emmys, where “Bad” earned its first-ever best drama trophy.

Evidently the Emmys didn’t woo away “Bad” fans. The show hit a series high for the third time this season and second straight week, drawing 6.6 million total viewers, 200,000 more than last week. That included 4.3 million adults 18-49 for the 75-minute episode, which started at 9 p.m.

The series finale airs Sunday at 9 p.m. AMC is airing every single episode from seasons one to four starting Wednesday at 8 p.m. and continuing through Friday night. The marathon will start up again with season five beginning at 11 p.m. Saturday and leading up to the series finale.

*Lifetime’s “Devious Maids” hit a series-high 3 million total viewers and 1.4 million 18-49s in its first-season finale. The show, which airs at 9 p.m., has already been renewed for a second season. Its viewership increased by 50 percent since its first-season premiere.

*E!’s “Live from the Red Carpet” Emmy countdown show from 6 to 8 p.m. averaged 1.5 million total viewers, tying with last year as the most-watched pre-Emmy telecast since 2006.

http://www.medialifemagazine.com/killer-series-finale-dexter/
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Originally Posted by bulls View Post

oh lol, that was the last episode ... meh... at least there wasnt any Vogel in it.


Wrong! Daniel Vogel was in it
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