Harmony 1000 (3.5 inch screen) - Page 2

I like the 1000, but I can't get into a touchscreen where I can't put any graphic I want on it. Also, it suffers from the same restriction on macros (activities only) that the other Harmonys do. There are available graphics for channel logos just like the 880/890. Multiple room control could be achieved by having multiple activities (ie: Watch TV1, Watch TV2). It's 3.5" screen is a good size (only 0.2" smaller than the Pronto TSU9600).

It remains to be seen what the street price on the 1000 will be, which may make it much more desirable for the price. If it's $500, you could get a TSU7500 or MX-3000 for $100 or so more. To continue what remoteshoppe said, IMO there is no comparison between the 1000 and other color touchscreens like an MX-3000, Pronto TSU7000 or 7500, much less a 9600.

Do the IR connections to equipment allow for the option of an IR repeater or an IR port on the back of the equipment? Or is it limited to just the stick on IR repeater?

My equipment is exposed but almost at floor level. (Ladies...no swooning). My coffee table will commonly interfere with the IR signal if you don't hold the remote high enough. I would like to make the IR connections as discrete as possible but realize not all of my equipment has a port on the back.

The emitter & IR input cables are the same with the exception of the tips. If your equipment has an IR input in the back you will not need the emitter... just use a mini to mini cale to that input port.


If your equipment does not have an IR input in the back there are a few other tricks the pros do. One example is with the SA8300HD Cable HD box with DVR... you can actually open the unit and place the emitter inside of the case... obviously not for the faint of heart. I'll also add that if you take a little time and effort the emitters are not really a problem that would make the ladies swoon any less. The bulb easily blends into the black IR panel on most equipment and you can follow the contour of the component to run the cable with a dab of hot glue where needed.

Thanks for the help.

After seeing the 880 review on your website, I have more questions. One of the cons you list is no TV listing feature and limited favorite channels. Do harmony remotes not allow access to the tv listings and favorites features on your 8300hd dvr?

I am checking your site to see if the answers can be found elsewhere and will post an answer If I find them before I get a response.

Okay. As to my first question, it appears you do have access to the guide but there may be an issue with the A, B and C keys the DVR remote has but the 890 doesn't.

Still working on the favorites issue.

Harmony 6xx series remotes let you view TV listings on the remote iteself. The 880 does not. The "Guide" button would still let you view the Guide on your 8300HD.

The favorites button again refers to the remote itself. You can program and view channel logo right on the 880 screen. This would have nothing to do with the faves you set up on your cable box.


You could program the ABC buttons to the LCD screen of any harmony remote but since the 880 was the first model to offer 8 buttons next to the screen it gives you more room for "soft" buttons like this

mikeSRC- So no custom graphics- that's not really important to me. As for the macros, what do you see as a limit? If one only has say 8 components, I've seen just about every option for devices within each macro on Harmony's site. I don' understand what would be lacking because you can add any device to the activity.

As for the MX-3000, it's $999 + $99 for the base station, too much for me to spend on a remote. The Pronto is $650, but just looks small and boring. I've also read a few times about customers having reliability issues with their various Pronto units. The 9600 looks sweet but seems to be at least the $1200 or more.

So, I mean for $500, what else is there for touch screen, RF and is user programmable? Sounds like you mostly like it. I can get channel icons for it? Very cool.

remoteshoppe- What's your opinion of the 1000, and are their any other options in that $500 range with what the 1000 offers?

I haven't had my hands on the 1000 yet but my initial reaction is that they are disguising an 890 as a touchscreen remote to charge a premium for it. The biggest advantage of a touchscreen is customization of the pages and the graphics and without that I think I would personally choose a hard button remote. I'd either save a few bucks with the Harmony 890 or get the URC MX950 w/RF for about the same price as the H1000

Remoteshoppe- So basically, it's a hardbutton remote turned into a touch screen but without the customization of pages and graphics? OK, that's cool. I think I can deal with that. I'm sure pages would be cool to create, but I don't have a preference for that yet, but I like the whole display panel docking on the table concept. I hope the 1000 is released in Best Buys or Circuit Cities so I can see one up close.

Angel-The Nevo is sweet, but it seems to be PC only which won't work for me. I really dislike platform discrimination.

I saw it for $650. Just google it.

Don't care much for the 9800i. Again, not customizable enough.

Regarding macros, if all you want/need are activity macros, then the Harmony can do the job. However, if you want macro to do other things than change activities, then that's a problem. A few examples would be shortcuts to Tivo menu areas or changing surround sound settings.

If you want graphics, the MX-950 won't thrill you. It has some basic graphics capability, but that's it. It does have much more customization, but it sounds like you're not really looking for that.

Regarding pricing, authorized resellers of the MX-3000, MX-950 (and many other URC remotes) are required to advertise them at MSRP. If you see it advertised for less, the reseller is either not an authorized dealer or is not following the rules (which will get him removed as an authorized dealer). URC will not warrant products purchased from an unauthorized dealer. That being said, many authorized dealers actually SELL the MX-950 for less than MSRP, but you have to ask.

MikeSRC- Ah, I see what you mean about non-activity macros. For surround sound settings, I usually just select the device, it's options and adjust. I have everything set up, so I don't tweak much at all.

But as far as the 1000, it does have station logos? CNN, HBO, etc? That would be cool if so.

Another use is actually putting activity macros on individual device pages so you don't have to go back to your main activity page to switch activities. Same goes for accessing a specific device.


Yes, just like the 880/890.

about the pronto 9800i. It seems like a good inexpensive touchscreen remote. Can be had for half the price of the harmony 1000. Would it be considered the same quality... apples to apples?

I guess the real question is, If I were going to get the harmony 1000 and liked all the features would I be better off getting the 9800i for half the price?

Is this a good remote(maybe not cause it's discontinued)

I just checked out some Prontos and a Marantz. Bummer, do any other than Harmony have software that is mac compatible? (don't care for URC) Seems like the 1000 is my only real choice.

I just picked one of these up from Costco for $250. I figured why not give it a shot, as Costco has a pretty liberal return policy. Anyway, I've got 2 rooms setup on it right now. It's not very customizable, but it can learn no problem. It's definately an Activity based remote, and if you don't need full customization it's not too bad. It does have some quirks where you can't put custom functions in the Activity pages, as they go into the device pages where it take a few taps to get to. I do like the EPG, and the ability to view pictures and play MP3s from your PC via WiFi is kind of neat. There are work-arounds for some issues, but it's not really documented. See the RC9800i threads on RemoteCentral here:
http://www.remotecentral.com/cgi-bin...9800i/list.cgi

I'm still interested in the H1000 though, and look forward to hopefully seeing some actual reviews soon.

Actually, the Philips RC9800i is not a Pronto. The Pronto remotes are programmable, the RC9800i is not. There is actually no PC interaction on the RC9800i except for updating the firmware - that's it.


Until someone actually gets their hands on a H1000 to try it out, we won't really know.

Logitech is telling us the H1000 will be landing on shelves before the end of the month. There's a good chance they'll restrict product to the big box stores and then let the rest of their authorized dealers have it. Inventory is supposed to be limited for at least the first 30 days. I would recommend making sure if you buy, make sure the company has a good return policy on them.

Touchscreen remotes are typically more about the "feel" of it in your hand as they're larger than traditional units. The satisfaction will also depend on how easy the button layout is setup on the screen as previously stated, you can't customize the locations/images currently.

I thought the remote was coming out like the 15th or something? Or does that just indicate the releases from the factory date, then a week or so needed to fill channels? You mention big stores, do you think Best Buys or Circuit Cities will receive these units?

The 15th isn't going to happen, Logitech's distributors are still waiting for product to land, then they'll need to ship it to each store. I would say if everything goes perfectly it will be the last week of the month.

We're still fighting with Logitech to get product to fill our orders on the first shipment, we'll see what happens. If not, they're telling us we'll definetely receive product on the second shipment two weeks later. So far they're not saying which of the big stores it will be, just that there are currenlty 3 on thier list.

Thanks. Any guess on what the 3 might be? Costoc maybe? So another week, week and a half to wait. I am eager to read some earlier reports on it.

It will be the usual: BB and CC, maybe CompUSA as well. Costco doesn't get new stuff usually.

Awesome, thanks. I like the CompUSA option because I can use my business account and get a small discount. Costco got the AX100, which is pretty new. Maybe debut new, but same release month.

I meant they don't get new Harmony stuff right away, or at least they haven't in the past.

Ah, I see. Can't wait till someone gets this in their hands.

Have an 880 on order from an internet dealer. Have a question or two. I currently have my Oppo 971 connected to my Outlaw 1070. With the 880, will I have to reconnect the Oppo DVD directly to my Pioneer TV???? Thanks

No. You can connect it however you want. You just assign the required input for each device in the activity and the remote will take care of the rest.