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post #151 of 1962
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Originally Posted by Karyk View Post

Try the free trial of SageTV while you're waiting.

if only sage supported the 360 extender.... thats the only way i view my media center these days since it works so well theres no need to have the pc do anything other than be a server for my extender devices (right now just one 360) but i plan on adding new extenders to all of my tv's once we get the new vista extenders.
post #152 of 1962
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Originally Posted by Bigjohns View Post

If this thing supported multicast... You could hook 2 of them up to the network, tune your 4 major networks, and any HTPC on the net could grab one of the multicast channels...

Not sure I follow you, do you mean sub-channels, like 9.1 + 9.2, 9.3, 9.4, etc. ? If so, the unit does do that. For each HTPC you'd probably need some sort of client to tune to the particular channel you want.

For example, with Sage, I believe you can have 1 HTPC tuned to 9.1, another to 9.2 and another to 9.3, and so on.
post #153 of 1962
Muticast is unrelated to subchannels. Multicast allows multiple PC's/devices to receive the same transmission concurrently (the transmission is not to a specific IP address). HDHomeRun firmware may already support multicast.
post #154 of 1962
Bump for MCE support!
post #155 of 1962
According to a post on their site MCE support development is moving along nicely.
post #156 of 1962
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Originally Posted by henryld View Post

According to a post on their site MCE support development is moving along nicely.

Where do you see that? I don't see any posts in the beta forum, or anything else from Nick on MCE for that matter. Do you have a direct link maybe?
post #157 of 1962
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Originally Posted by keenan View Post

Where do you see that? I don't see any posts in the beta forum, or anything else from Nick on MCE for that matter. Do you have a direct link maybe?

Check the "Development/Windows MCE Status" forum posts on Silicondust's site.
post #158 of 1962
Got it, thanks. Sage didn't take long at all, maybe a month or so?, so hopefully MCE will be ready soon.
post #159 of 1962
hopefully they will have something for us to look at by ces time...
post #160 of 1962
"Sage didn't take long at all, maybe a month or so?, so hopefully MCE will be ready soon."

again, the infrastructure of a "network tuner" device was already present and working in Sage (see firewire tuner devices). Nothing like this exists for MCE, so it may take a while....

post #161 of 1962
I don't mean to upset anybody but for product that has been released why does the product image on the website look like a CGI rendition rather than a photographic image?
post #162 of 1962
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Originally Posted by Garrett Adams View Post

I don't mean to upset anybody but for product that has been released why does the product image on the website look like a CGI rendition rather than a photographic image?

That's not a rendered image, that's actually what it looks like.
post #163 of 1962
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Originally Posted by Garrett Adams View Post

I don't mean to upset anybody but for product that has been released why does the product image on the website look like a CGI rendition rather than a photographic image?

Looks real to me, in fact, I'm staring at mine right now, and I can even touch it, so it must be real, not to mention I'm watching TV with it right now.
post #164 of 1962
Pardon me if this has been asked/answered before (I didn't see it in the search).

Can you use the HDHomeRun with MythTV in this scenario:

Have one input use the cable TV coax for unencrypted QAM (ie, HD Locals).

Have the 2nd input be fed from the OUTPUT of a TimeWarner SA digital STB and control it via IR Blaster?

Basically like a Tivo Series 2 Dual Tuner?

I know that you cannot record HD from the Digital STB. I'm just wanting to record the SD Digital channels that I cannot receive via QAM.

But I don't know if that qualifies as NTSC/ATSC or what.

So, basically you split the cable signal at the wall jack. One connects to input #1 on the HDHomeRun (I'll use that for QAM stuff). The other goes to the TW Digital STB. The Digital STB outputs the signal via Coax (yes, it'll be crappy compared to S-Video, but HDHomeRun doesn't leave me much choice) and connect THAT to the HDHomeRun and use an IRBlaster to change the channels on the digital STB.

Or am I better off just buying two pcHDTV whatever cards or something?
post #165 of 1962
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Originally Posted by jimwhite View Post

again, the infrastructure of a "network tuner" device was already present and working in Sage (see firewire tuner devices). Nothing like this exists for MCE, so it may take a while....


I'm confused, are you referring to the ability to use the guide to record via firewire? Doesn't MCE have that functionality with timmmoore's hack?

http://home.comcast.net/~timmmoore/firewire/readme.htm

Or are you referring to something else? Thanks.

Russ
post #166 of 1962
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Originally Posted by m_jonis View Post

Have one input use the cable TV coax for unencrypted QAM (ie, HD Locals).

That's fine.

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Have the 2nd input be fed from the OUTPUT of a TimeWarner SA digital STB and control it via IR Blaster?

This won't work, you can't capture the analog output of your STB that way. You would need to use a PVR-150 or such for that part. Maybe if they eventually make a newer version with mpeg2 encoder chip and all, but they're not there yet.
post #167 of 1962
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Originally Posted by jimwhite View Post

"Sage didn't take long at all, maybe a month or so?, so hopefully MCE will be ready soon."

again, the infrastructure of a "network tuner" device was already present and working in Sage (see firewire tuner devices). Nothing like this exists for MCE, so it may take a while....


They will be using uPNP for the MCE tuner, this is supported in MCE apparently.
post #168 of 1962
For people looking at this, there is a review of the HD HomeRun up at Missing Remote
post #169 of 1962
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Originally Posted by Naylia View Post

For people looking at this, there is a review of the HD HomeRun up at Missing Remote

I wonder how the author was able to get ESPN2-HD through the HDHR, must be un-encrypted on his cable system.
post #170 of 1962
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Originally Posted by Fonceur View Post

That's fine.


This won't work, you can't capture the analog output of your STB that way. You would need to use a PVR-150 or such for that part. Maybe if they eventually make a newer version with mpeg2 encoder chip and all, but they're not there yet.


thank you! So I'll just go with the AirStar HD5500 for the HD card via QAM and get a PVR or something for the STB.

Thanks again!
post #171 of 1962
I've been a Sage user for years and just ordered one of these. I can't wait for it to come in. The only HDTV card I own is the MyHD MDP-130, so this will be a nice change.

Robert
post #172 of 1962
FYI, the Snappy HAVA device (http://www.snappymultimedia.com/products_hava.htm) has a function where it can act as a tuner for MCE over the network. So apparently this idea is supported under MCE.
post #173 of 1962
I got my HDHomeRun in the other day and scanned for my local QAM channels. The thing works great. I have WOW in Cleveland and I get all my locals as well as the music channels in digital.

My PVR app is SageTV and it integrates beautifully. I can't recommend this device enough. And knowing how the device works (through the network instead of a PCI/USB peripheral), I wouldn't want any other.

-Robert
post #174 of 1962
I just got it last week and it's fun. Geeky. But fun.

Does Sage use DxVA or any acceleration? I am using VLC and it's dog slow decoding and deinterlacing. The same QAM stream playing on Fusion app uses olny half of the CPU when playing in VLC.
post #175 of 1962
Sage can use DXVA. It can use Overlay, VMR9, whatever. It's pretty configurable but ultimately depends on the codecs and renderers installed on your PC, and what it can handle. For instance, I can set VMR9 in Sage for my PC, but my wimpy PC can't handle it. As a PVR app though, I think Sage is the best. Getting the HDHomeRun just reinforced that belief.

Robert
post #176 of 1962
With everyone talking about what they're getting over clear-QAM, my Time-Warner service has cut it down to almost nothing. I get ABC, CBS, NBC, PBS, and a few junk channels (previews, local public access). They just dropped or encrypted four other channels, two of which were somewhat useful to me. I like the HDHomeRun, but it's a lot to pay for just four network feeds.
post #177 of 1962
Let me make sure I have this straight....buy Sage and this device and I have two QAM tuners, integrated EPGs, and DVR?

Does Sage handle the channel scanning and mapping for QAM?

If this really works, I think I will be making a purchase. Sage needs to do a bundle on this.

Kevin

PS...One more question....will the Sage placeshifter software support the feed coming from the HDHomeRun?
post #178 of 1962
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Originally Posted by avekevin View Post

Let me make sure I have this straight....buy Sage and this device and I have two QAM tuners, integrated EPGs, and DVR?

Does Sage handle the channel scanning and mapping for QAM?

As to the first sentence, yes.

As to the second, I had a list of the QAM channels for my area, so I didn't do any scanning. But you do the remapping through Sage.
post #179 of 1962
This thing is pure rock and roll. I had it running with Sage in like 10 minutes. My AccessDTV is now officially retired.

Sage does not automatically handle QAM channel mapping, but it will scan all available QAM channels, and then you can map them manually to the EPG. It's a bit tedious, but it does the job.

I get ABC, NBC, CBS, PBS, Fox and CW in HD over-the-air and via comcast. I also get a ton of other digital SD un-encrypted QAM channels on Comcast (Philly) that I am still mapping.

I actually think I may order another. Using this thing in SAGE as a true whole-house HD/SD PVR is like a quantum leap in functionality for me. It's not that often that I need more than two tuners but I do sometimes, especially with everybody in the house able to watch SAGE at the same time. I'll have to see how well recording Digital SD on QAM compares to to the PVR-250 quality to see whether it is worth doing, esp since it is rare that there are more than two HD programs on at the same time I am interested in.

One really interesting thing is that apparently I can see what others are watching on-demand. I don't know what the scope of who's on-demand I can see and it was all SD but it was interesting. The other day I was watching Dr. Strangelove that someone was obviously watching and I even saw them ff/rw. '

Bob
post #180 of 1962
I think a lot of factors matter whether you prefer the digital SD signal to analog. For my TV, the only "digital" I like is HD. I'd prefer analog from my cable company via my Hauppauge PVR-250's instead. Since both work in Sage, it's very nice. My TV is a hybrid 4:3 HDTV set though, so digital SD stations come in with a black border on all sides. It doesn't fill the screen like regular analog. That's more of an issue with my TV than Sage.

avekevin, yes, this thing with Sage is the cat's meow. For Placeshifter support, you may need a good computer to handle the feed from the hdhomerun, in addition to transcoding to low bandwidth for Placeshifter.

Robert
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