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post #1591 of 1962
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Originally Posted by dubbo07 View Post

You should have no problem with a setup like this:

Antenna ===> power gain ===> splitter ===> HDHomerun (0+1). Play around with the dB level on your power gain (assuming you have one).

hi - my set-up is now working...i was also able to set up gbpvr, and also the front-end for the gbpvr on my popcorn hour...i can now see the tv guide on the popcorn hour, watch live tv, schedule recordings from the PH and watch my recordings...

this is an absolutely amazing solution...thanks much to everyone for all the help...

just one question - if there is one internal antenna that you would recommend, which would it be?
post #1592 of 1962
Can GB-PVR record more than one channel at a time? I was surprised to find out that Totalmedia 3.5 can not.

Edit: After installing and setting it up I can answer my own question. It can record as many shows at one time as you have tuners. In my case I have a HD Homerun on the network and a Fusion 5 Gold in my test PC, and I was able to record 3 HDTV streams simultaneously without any issue.
post #1593 of 1962
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Originally Posted by Stereodude View Post

Can GB-PVR record more than one channel at a time? I was surprised to find out that Totalmedia 3.5 can not.

Edit: After installing and setting it up I can answer my own question. It can record as many shows at one time as you have tuners. In my case I have a HD Homerun on the network and a Fusion 5 Gold in my test PC, and I was able to record 3 HDTV streams simultaneously without any issue.

Just to add to that, if you are using QAM and have multiple programs on the same physical channel (frequency), GBPVR will record any number of them using only one tuner thanks to the new multi-record feature. Not much benefit for OTA users though unless maybe you want to record all the subchannels on your local PBS station.
post #1594 of 1962
That's pretty sweet recording multiple sub-channels at once.

All I know is getting GB-PVR working now has me sold on the HDHomerun. I've owned mine for about six months, and basically never used it because I didn't like Totalmedia 3.5 much (the only free app I could get working with it under Windows XP. I tried GB-PVR once before, but wasn't able to get it working the first time (though I didn't put much time into it).

Since I replaced my server in the basement to a whole new E5200 based system my Fusion 5 Gold has been irritating me a LOT! It misses recordings, records the wrong channels, has a lot more glitches in the recordings than it used to, etc. So, I finally reached my breaking point with the Fusion 5 and gave the HDHomerun another shot with GB-PVR. Now that I have it working, thank to your guide and instructions Vladd, it's a dream. The recordings don't have glitches, and I can record two shows at once with perfect captures.
post #1595 of 1962
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Originally Posted by vladd View Post

.... Not much benefit for OTA users though unless maybe you want to record all the subchannels on your local PBS station.

Not sure about GB-PVR, but a lot of apps also discard the PSIP data if you only record a single subchannel. So one of the benefits for OTA users, like me, is that recording all the subs also preserves the PSIP data.
post #1596 of 1962
My unit is coming tomorrow.

I currently use XP MCE, and I don't really want to mess with it by adding new tuners and hacking it for HD support and what not.
My plan is to setup Window 7 in a VM and have it do all the recording to a network share for the MCE box to do the playback.

Is XP MCE going to recognize the HD dvr-ms files fine?
post #1597 of 1962
Windows 7, if memory serves, will record in .WTV files and not dvr-ms. You may have to jump through some conversion loops.
post #1598 of 1962
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Originally Posted by perpetual98 View Post

Windows 7, if memory serves, will record in .WTV files and not dvr-ms. You may have to jump through some conversion loops.

Crap, I was afraid of that.
Luckily, I do have a Linksys DMA 2100, but that's just wasting the extender.
post #1599 of 1962
Running Windows XP MCE and Comcast just moved some channels around.... what's the easiest way to update my channel list with as little pain and interference as possible?

Thanks!

Russ
post #1600 of 1962
I use HDHRcorder for recording and thats all I do with the box.

I've been having a problem where the router would change the ip address from time to time and then when HDHRcorder comes up it goes to the config screen and the recording does not start. I was using a Linksys router. In the past I used a Netgear router but changed to Linksys because of some online gaming issues. I changed back to Netgear because it can assign ip addresses (making it fixed) based on the MAC address. I couldn't figure how to do that on Linksys.

Now I can't get the HDHR box to come online. It did once but not anymore. Just for reference the HDHR box is plugged into a DLink switch which is plugged into the router. Maybe I'll switch routers one more time to see if its the router but does anybody have an idea why it won't come online/get an ip address assigned? And it has worked in the past with this router.

Oh, the box stays powered on 24/7 and I've already gotten the new power supply.

I wish there was a way to talk directly to the box to see whats happening. Like ipconfig /renew stuff.
post #1601 of 1962
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Originally Posted by AllenDB View Post

I wish there was a way to talk directly to the box to see whats happening. Like ipconfig /renew stuff.

Iirc, there is. The drivers should have a set of commandline utilities which you can use. I just never used them since mine has never given me any trouble. Looked at the readme for HDHRcorder and it seems it uses the same commandline utilities to do the recording.

As for DHCP issues, I've never had any problems with apps that use regular Windows BDA drivers even when the HDHomeRuns get their IP addresses re-assigned. Is there any reason why you use HDHRcorder (which seems to be 2 years old now) instead of apps that simply use BDA drivers?
post #1602 of 1962
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Originally Posted by ilovejedd View Post

Iirc, there is. The drivers should have a set of commandline utilities which you can use. I just never used them since mine has never given me any trouble. Looked at the readme for HDHRcorder and it seems it uses the same commandline utilities to do the recording.

As for DHCP issues, I've never had any problems with apps that use regular Windows BDA drivers even when the HDHomeRuns get their IP addresses re-assigned. Is there any reason why you use HDHRcorder (which seems to be 2 years old now) instead of apps that simply use BDA drivers?

As I said I use HDHRcorder. It worked and I 'needed' a command line interface. I'm pretty sure the problem started when I recently plugged a printer into the lan. Sometimes its on and sometimes its off and I think thats why the ip started changing.

Not sure how these (?) apps, using BDA drivers, will get the HDHR box online. Will any of these apps accept a command line for recording purposes? I might try it if I don't have to download a suite of stuff I don't need. Gimme a name.
post #1603 of 1962
The "hdhomerun_config.exe" included with the hdhomerun software is a dos command line interface. CW-EPG uses it to control HDHomerun recordings.

If you google it, you should be able to find some documentation. If not, let me know and I will send you what I have.
post #1604 of 1962
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Originally Posted by hdtvincr View Post

The "hdhomerun_config.exe" included with the hdhomerun software is a dos command line interface. CW-EPG uses it to control HDHomerun recordings.

If you google it, you should be able to find some documentation. If not, let me know and I will send you what I have.

Thank you T, I'll see what it does.
post #1605 of 1962
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Originally Posted by AllenDB View Post

As I said I use HDHRcorder. It worked and I 'needed' a command line interface. I'm pretty sure the problem started when I recently plugged a printer into the lan. Sometimes its on and sometimes its off and I think thats why the ip started changing.

Although not a complete solution, can you force the printer to use a specific IP address higher than anything that would be assigned by DHCP? That's how I set my printer up (192.168.0.200). My computers don't see it as a LAN printer but as a local printer on a TCP/IP port.
post #1606 of 1962
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Originally Posted by ebo View Post

Although not a complete solution, can you force the printer to use a specific IP address higher than anything that would be assigned by DHCP? That's how I set my printer up (192.168.0.200). My computers don't see it as a LAN printer but as a local printer on a TCP/IP port.

Thats what I',m trying now, setting it to 192.169.0.30. Now if I can get the HDHR box to come online. I submitted a trouble report to SiliconDust.
post #1607 of 1962
Back in January (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...6#post15473506) I asked about a problem with severe pixelation, freezing and audio dropouts when VLC was invoked from hdhomerun_setup.exe but not from TSReader Lite. Either way cranks my old, slow CPU to 100%. Recently I found the solution. If I set the priority of hdhomerun_setup higher than that of VLC it plays as well as it does from TSRL. Upping both equally or setting VLC higher doesn't help. Neither Task Manager nor SysInternals' Process Explorer change the priority permanently, so I'm using Process Lasso (http://www.bitsum.com/prolasso.php) which sets the priority every time the app runs.

The result is still too jerky for normal viewing (looks like 15 fps) but it's OK for monitoring purposes. I use a MyHD card to watch what I've recorded.

Is there a way to use MPC-HC instead of VLC for HDHR monitoring?

The only problem I've had with HDHR recordings (using CW_EPG to schedule it and the MyHD card) was that I'd get a couple of seconds of signal loss every few minutes from the HDHR but not from the MyHD using the same sources. I suspect the computer sometimes was busy doing something else and dropped some packets. That's what happened years ago when serial port speeds started to increase; it was fixed then by the introduction of the buffered UART. The SiliconDust FAQ had some suggested fixes but the 10/100 port I was using (nVidia nForce MCP) didn't have any relevant options to change. The MB also has a Marvell Yukon Gigabit port with more options, so I switched to that, raised the buffers to maximum and replaced my 10/100 switch between the HTPC and HDHR with a gigabit one. That seems to have cured the problem, although I'm so far behind with my viewing that it's hard to be sure yet. I doubt that the extra speed helped, but the extra buffering may have.

I wish there were an up-to-date alternative to the MyHD card with hardware decoding of all the new formats, but until there is, this venerable card together with one or more HDHRs all scheduled by CW_EPG makes for a nearly ideal HTPC.
post #1608 of 1962
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Originally Posted by ebo View Post

Is there a way to use MPC-HC instead of VLC for HDHR monitoring?

Not that I'm aware but the latest version of the software will use Windows Media Player if you don't have VLC installed.
post #1609 of 1962
I'd advise anyone with Vista Media Center to update to the newest firmware revision, I had my first problem in over a year last night, and the new driver came out last night. It required a power cycle of the HD Homerun to establish contact with the Media Center PC..

http://www.silicondust.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6817
post #1610 of 1962
Very strange, I had the exact same problem last night with two seperate HDHRs. I'll be sure to upgrade, thanks!
post #1611 of 1962
I also had to power cycle all my HDHR's but have not updated fw for months (nor do I want to risk it)
post #1612 of 1962
I didn't need to power cycle until after I did the firmware update.
post #1613 of 1962
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Originally Posted by Stereodude View Post

I didn't need to power cycle until after I did the firmware update.

I had to cycle power to get the firmware installed - but I beleive its all part of the normal update process.

I am on xp, not vista. In my case an autoupdate message appeared at some point several days ago and I let it go on.

After the software update there was a message that the HDHomeruns could not be found (either power is off or network not connection prob)

After proceding to unplug and replug power to HDHomerun; it was found and then automagically did the firmware update. Everything went smoothly for me.
post #1614 of 1962
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Originally Posted by qz3fwd View Post

I also had to power cycle all my HDHR's but have not updated fw for months (nor do I want to risk it)


What risk?? The HDHomerun's firmware is so easy to upgrade, my 8 year old daughter could do it.
post #1615 of 1962
My HDHR lost connection with the network and it had nothing to do with the update. I have automatic updates disabled. My first warning was when my scheduling program couldn't find the HDHR and tried to schedule everything on the remaining (MyHD) tuner. As with others here, a power cycle did the trick. So, what could cause a mass disconnect? An expiration date in the last firmware? Has SiliconDust been bought out by Microsoft?
post #1616 of 1962
I lost a couple of important recordings Wednesday evening with the same network disconnect. All three of my HD-HRs disappeared. I thought it was a router problem at the time. Very curious circumstance.
post #1617 of 1962
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Originally Posted by xzener View Post

What risk?? The HDHomerun's firmware is so easy to upgrade, my 8 year old daughter could do it.

but why take the risk to be on the newest version that may not work as well... plus while performing a firmware update, if the power would go out or something, you may brick the device. If the HDhomerun works well with the firmware you have + you don't have any of the stability issues, or want the new features that the new firmware brings, stay with the old version.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with staying with an older release if it works 100%
post #1618 of 1962
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Originally Posted by gerhard911 View Post

I lost a couple of important recordings Wednesday evening with the same network disconnect. All three of my HD-HRs disappeared. I thought it was a router problem at the time. Very curious circumstance.

Same here. Too many people were hit at the same time. I wonder if it was some kind of a microsoft update.
post #1619 of 1962
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Originally Posted by teststrips View Post

but why take the risk to be on the newest version that may not work as well... plus while performing a firmware update, if the power would go out or something, you may brick the device. If the HDhomerun works well with the firmware you have + you don't have any of the stability issues, or want the new features that the new firmware brings, stay with the old version.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with staying with an older release if it works 100%

I agree with that, but in my case I missed a recording and then I had the update thing popup that night, but I passed on it. Then I went to read the forum and it discussed missing recordings and I figured I was bitten by the bug, which evidently a lot of people were bitten by, it is very curious that so many people got hit on Wednesday 4/15... I didn't miss but a couple of minutes, I just power cycled right quick(which was my first instinct) and then everything was working.

I've never had any problems upgrading firmware though, it hasn't changed any of my settings or affected my Vista Media Center at all. It appears to have been related to Vista Media Center. Dunno
post #1620 of 1962
I was playing world of warcraft on the evening of the 15th. Out of nowhere, HDHR popped up its update screen and did its thing. It was incredibly intrusive and I've never had anything like this happen before. I really thought it was a virus attack.

I use BeyondTV on an XP system, so this is unrelated to Vista Media Center.

I do not see a method of turning off the automatic update anymore.
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