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Upcoming Fox BD titles to include D-Box technology!!!

post #1 of 32
10/3/06 at 1:45pm
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http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/sh...ay_Viewers/272
A new revolution in home theater technology, or the next hula hoop? Fox hopes the former with a coming wave of Blu-ray releases pre-loaded with special motion control technology sure to redefine the term "couch potato."

Like something out of a William Castle movie, the two companies have just finalized a three-year pact that will see the studio release a series of "D-Box enhanced" Blu-ray titles. Each will include codes embedded in the program content that synchronizes D-Box's luxury line of motion-equipped home theater seats with the movement in a scene on a disc.

Im not about to invest in these but I wonder if it would be compatable with Buttkickers?????????
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post #2 of 32
10/3/06 at 2:09pm
If the same data is applied to porn, would we see similar stimulating devices, like Butt*ickers? See? This is why extra storage is important!


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post #3 of 32
10/3/06 at 2:28pm
I'm in no way averse to implimenting new technologies or attaching them to Blu-ray, but this feature will add precisely zero must-have value to any title that carries it for me.
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post #4 of 32
10/3/06 at 2:30pm
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I'm in no way averse to implimenting new technologies or attaching them to Blu-ray, but this feature will add precisely zero must-have value to any title that carries it for me.

You and pretty much everyone else that thinks 8,000 is a bit much for 1 chair.
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post #5 of 32
10/3/06 at 4:52pm
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If the same data is applied to porn, would we see similar stimulating devices, like Butt*ickers? See? This is why extra storage is important!


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lol....
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post #6 of 32
10/3/06 at 7:03pm
I've experienced the D-Box motion platform and it is an unbelievable addition to a home theater (if you have the scratch!). It's not a "chair" per-se, but a platform to put your chairs or couch on, and is a motion simulator "ride" type effect.
Think of it as turning every movie that's encoded into your own "Star Tours" ride. The "buttkicker" type attachment (which I own) is not in the same league.

That's a nice add-on to BluRay...
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post #7 of 32
10/3/06 at 8:11pm
I'm holding off till they have one with a gravity-free chamber for outer space shows. I'd love to have a Tricorder remote too....
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post #8 of 32
10/3/06 at 8:24pm
This is akin to Fox announcing that their upcoming BR titles will automatically do a tuneup on your Ferrari Enzo. Interesting, but of no real consequence to 99.99999999999999999% of the population.
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post #9 of 32
10/3/06 at 8:28pm
it's still cool though. what if adding a feature like this brings in competition for motion control and forces prices downwards? it would be neat to have old BDs encoded with the technology.
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post #10 of 32
10/3/06 at 8:55pm
It's better to have the tech and underutilized by consumers, than to not have it and wanting desperately for it to happen.


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post #11 of 32
10/4/06 at 12:33am
Interesting concept, for motion simulator films. For regular films I can't see the appeal unless the film was specifically designed to have this thing moving, like say the sequences in Earthquake.

I rather have feel-around.
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post #12 of 32
10/4/06 at 4:48am
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Originally Posted by txfilmguy View Post

I'm in no way averse to implimenting new technologies or attaching them to Blu-ray, but this feature will add precisely zero must-have value to any title that carries it for me.

If you had a "D-box" though this would be good news
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post #13 of 32
10/4/06 at 8:42am
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Originally Posted by Rachael Bellomy View Post

I'm holding off till they have one with a gravity-free chamber for outer space shows. I'd love to have a Tricorder remote too....

This would be great for Contact!
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post #14 of 32
10/4/06 at 8:48am
^^hell yes
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post #15 of 32
10/4/06 at 10:46am
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Originally Posted by WriteSimple View Post

It's better to have the tech and underutilized by consumers, than to not have it and wanting desperately for it to happen.

I think that Fox could have better spent the money they used to research, develop, and implement Blu-ray D-Box support elsewhere.
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post #16 of 32
10/4/06 at 11:08am
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Originally Posted by Robert Clark View Post

I've experienced the D-Box motion platform and it is an unbelievable addition to a home theater (if you have the scratch!). It's not a "chair" per-se, but a platform to put your chairs or couch on, and is a motion simulator "ride" type effect.
Think of it as turning every movie that's encoded into your own "Star Tours" ride. The "buttkicker" type attachment (which I own) is not in the same league.

That's a nice add-on to BluRay...

I have also experienced it, many times. Tweeter loves to sell the D-Box. The movie I saw was Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets. Given the cost, it really should only interest those with too much "scratch" that they don't know what to invest in. That 8k could be better spent on a ruby, or a pair of Beryllium J/M Labs speakers. You get the point. Given Fox's release slate, and their use of DTS-MA, I don't think they can be faulted for not focusing on delivering on the software (we will see...), but this seems hardly useful for 99.99% of HT users, much less the general public.
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post #17 of 32
10/4/06 at 12:52pm
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This would be great for Contact!

If they ever make a gravity-modifying chamber... think about the bruises! And the lawsuits!

Contact. Superman Returns. Hmmm...


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post #18 of 32
10/4/06 at 5:24pm
How about a special tactile channel that can be extracted? Or at least an LFE channel that reaches into tactile range and then have all new processors filter it out and put it on its own tactile output?

How many films would actually benefit from a motion simulator ride experience? You'd need a lot of unnecessary POV shots. Movies are supposed to be about the story, not having Smell-O-Vision and other cheap thrills attached.

However, games on the other hand...

Dan
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post #19 of 32
10/4/06 at 6:47pm
D-box is great.. used it for D-Theater D-VHS, DVD, Fox has been a very good studio for d-box with lots of codes for their movies.
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post #20 of 32
10/4/06 at 9:34pm
If I want this experience now all I need to do is sit on my subwoofer.

Seriously, this is about as useful to me as adding SDDS support.
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post #21 of 32
10/5/06 at 1:05am
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Originally Posted by Dan Hitchman View Post

How about a special tactile channel that can be extracted? Or at least an LFE channel that reaches into tactile range and then have all new processors filter it out and put it on its own tactile output?

How many films would actually benefit from a motion simulator ride experience? You'd need a lot of unnecessary POV shots. Movies are supposed to be about the story, not having Smell-O-Vision and other cheap thrills attached.

However, games on the other hand...

Dan

According to a guy who works for Buttkicker... They are working on something like that....
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post #22 of 32
2/19/07 at 12:58pm
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According to a guy who works for Buttkicker... They are working on something like that....


Well I can confim this (I do work for D-BOX)... In a little while we will have a controller with a shaker output to be able to control the different Tactile transducers. The D-Box Motion track is actually done by Motion artist that take the whole movie frame by frame and recreate a perfectly synchronize motion with the onscreen action. This actually brings a whole new dimension in the movie viewing experience. You can compare it to sound mixing, acutators seeing like speakers. At this stage the cost of the equipment makes it a little tough, but the day we get into serious production the cost will come down. Don't get me wrong, it's not for everyone, but the addition to the Fox titles is there for a reason... they didn't add this for the sake of adding stuff....
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post #23 of 32
2/19/07 at 2:02pm
They have space for this, but not any special features?
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post #24 of 32
2/19/07 at 5:00pm
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They have space for this, but not any special features?


They would even have the space on a DVD for the Motion Codes... Biggest file ever made for a movie is 8Mb... it's nothing!!!
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post #25 of 32
2/19/07 at 5:06pm
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Originally Posted by YannickG View Post

Well I can confim this (I do work for D-BOX)... In a little while we will have a controller with a shaker output to be able to control the different Tactile transducers. The D-Box Motion track is actually done by Motion artist that take the whole movie frame by frame and recreate a perfectly synchronize motion with the onscreen action. This actually brings a whole new dimension in the movie viewing experience. You can compare it to sound mixing, acutators seeing like speakers. At this stage the cost of the equipment makes it a little tough, but the day we get into serious production the cost will come down. Don't get me wrong, it's not for everyone, but the addition to the Fox titles is there for a reason... they didn't add this for the sake of adding stuff....

So this controller will work with various shakers??? Any more info? Thanks!
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post #26 of 32
2/20/07 at 12:32am
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Originally Posted by YannickG View Post

Well I can confim this (I do work for D-BOX)...

You should have an insider status.

How do we get D-Box to work with a Fox title? Do we have to extract the file from the BD using a computer with a BD drive or is there an easier way?


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post #27 of 32
2/20/07 at 6:24am
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So this controller will work with various shakers??? Any more info? Thanks!

I don't have a date at the moment but in the coming months we will have the controller ready. On it you will have a Shaker output capable of driving any shakers with our motion codes. You will have an intelligent shaker if you want... At this time it will be a mono output that you can split. I will post it when the product will be available and the pricing if I can...
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post #28 of 32
2/20/07 at 6:28am
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You should have an insider status.

How do we get D-Box to work with a Fox title? Do we have to extract the file from the BD using a computer with a BD drive or is there an easier way?


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At the moment the Motion Codes that are on the BD are also on our ftp server (just like all the other titles we make) and are downloaded by our controller on a regular basis. This will be the way to go until we get our other controller or interface capable of reading right of the BD Movie. Or depending on the timeframe will have some HD players equipped with the D-Box output capable of reading and sending the information to the different peripherals
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post #29 of 32
2/20/07 at 9:29am
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Originally Posted by YannickG View Post

I don't have a date at the moment but in the coming months we will have the controller ready. On it you will have a Shaker output capable of driving any shakers with our motion codes. You will have an intelligent shaker if you want... At this time it will be a mono output that you can split. I will post it when the product will be available and the pricing if I can...

Exciting. Using LFE to solely operate a shaker is the only flaw with these things. Sounds like this controller may fix that.
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post #30 of 32
2/20/07 at 7:08pm
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Originally Posted by shamus1099 View Post

Exciting. Using LFE to solely operate a shaker is the only flaw with these things. Sounds like this controller may fix that.


Do you own one (shaker)? I don't know if it's going to fix it, but it sure make a lot more sense... We'll see when we get a few out with the reactions but I think this will be a must for those who like to ''feel'' the movie.
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