Friday Night Lights on NBC - Page 9

I continue to find this show outstanding. The characters are believable and engaging. It truely is a fine show. Hope it sticks around ..

I think Julie will trust Tyra's opinion more and more since her prediction of the rally girls have come true.

And yes the end of my show had ER previews and nothing for a future ep of FNL. In past eps that meant a week or two off for the show.

Do TV execs realize that weeks off effect viewer ship?

The extreme amount of grain in this show is completely overloading the encoders. To the encoders every scene is in constant motion!

The end of my show said my local news was next (at 9PM?) followed by Jay Leno. Is it any wonder why they can't do decent HD when they can't even get their announcements right?

This could be due to a bitrate reduction of the OTA transmission by the cable provider. I view and record straight OTA HD through an outdoor antenna and ATSC tuner, and have no macroblocking during static scenes. Typical bitrate of my OTA caps are 15-19Mbps.

The news announcement on your broadcast means that they probably aired the credits to "Medium" (which airs from 10:00P - 11:00P PST) after FNL... just like they did in Los Angeles. Man, I really wanted to see a preview of next week's show.

I checked Zap2it.com, and it shows that FNL is on the schedule for Feb 7 and Feb 14.

This is what I can find for next week:

BLINDERS
Wed., Feb. 7, 8/7c
As the girls prepare for a big Powderpuff game, racial tension explodes when Mac makes offensive statements to the press. TVPG

and:

Mac makes racial statements that test the team's bond; Tim and Billy adjust to having their father back in their lives; Tami worries about Julie's new friendship with Tyra; the girls play a game of powder-puff football.

I saw the previews for next week on my local station. It was geared around the racial comments from above.

Powder-puff football. Man, they have reached right back into my high school days.

Just seen a few excerpts of this run on a mainstream UK SD channel which has picked up the series - one of the ITV channels ISTR. The quality in SD was horrendous. Looks like they've done a lot of work to give the show a "look" - but whether this is a good thing...

(May have been the clips I saw were 3:2 60i -> 50i converts. Does the show include 60i game footage or is it all 24p? If it includes a mix of 60i and 24p we may get a much poorer quality conversion over here in 50Hz land)

It's all film, no video. It really looks that bad.

They're trying to give it a documentary look but they're trying much too hard. Any idiot with a light meter can shoot 16mm outside on overcast days without this much grain, yet many of the outdoor shots look like they're pushed two or three stops just to make them look terrible. You might expect to see this in documentaries in interior shots using available light, but exterior shots? What are they thinking? To make it even stupidier, many of the night interior shots are clean, obviously well-lit and are perfectly framed, blowing the whole documentary look.

This grain is overloading the minimal bandwidth my affiliate is giving their HD channel. The motion artifacts (which started this thread) seem to be coming from artifacts that are spilling between fields. If you extract only the odd or even lines in a frame, you shouldn't see any interlacing artifacts in those 540 lines but I'm seeing interlacing caused from the other field in them. That's causing a ghosting effect in motion in many scenes because bob deinterlacing can't deal with it.

So I'm watching King Kong last Sat night on HBO. They've boarded the ship and are headed out to Skull Island when they introduce the Lead Male "Movie Star", Bruce Baxter. I'm watching him when all the sudden it hits me, "Is that Coach Taylor?". I seriously did not remember him being in Kong when FNL started. The Baxter character is so much different from Coach T I wasn't even sure it was him at first. Then when I heard him talking a bit more his drawl/inflection came through and I knew it was. Watching him do the scene in his cabin when he finds the film poster of himself with the moustache drawn in was pretty funny and quite the contrast after seeing him as Coach for so long now.


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form what I remember reading, they shoot a good portion of the scenes from a distance and with long lenses, even when they don't have to. They do this on purpose so that the cameras do not get in the way of the actors performance and they can concentrate on the scene instead of being distracted by the camera location.

seems to be working - this show has the best ensemble cast on TV. The performances (except for Lila) are some of the best in the business.

Long lenses do not make film grainy, especially not with 16mm which gives you twice the focal length of 35mm lenses which lets you use fast telephotos. They're all using fast professional lens kits which are f1.8-f2.0. The only way you can get an overcast sky to look like this is to shoot it on 8mm or totally mess up the exposure:



It's just ridiculously distracting to have that much grain hitting you in the face 24 times a second. They're spending, what, $2.4 million per episode?

I don't know what you're watching on but it looks nowhere near that bad on my screen.

It didn't look anywhere near that bad on my screen either. KNTV-San Francisco-Comcast. KNTV runs about 16.5mb/s to 17.5mb/s for their main HD channel.

my pictures crisp and little to no grain at all. i actually think the HD looks excellent for this show.

you might want to contact your stations engineer. send them that screen capture

He was in a Prime Time show a few years ago. I can't remember the name, but he would get the Newspaper a day before things actually happened, and he would try to save lives, etc. I actually thought he was good in that show as well.

I pulled a 17 Mbs version off the net that actually had more grain since it had more detail.

Could someone please post a screen capture of an overcast FNL sky so I can compare? I can't really work with "it looks fine here". Perhaps some people have sets that use noise reduction to clean it up. I'm very sensitive to grain since I spend a lot of time avoiding it in still photography.

I have no way to capture, sorry. I will watch for it with the next episode though to try and see exactly what you're seeing. Regarding the above shot, I don't remember it being as dark as it appears above either, but I'm just going on memory, which when it comes to video images can be pretty faulty.

At 24 fps, the sky will certainly look lighter than this shot and this grain will be less obvious. Brief moments of lightness will persist in your vision much longer than brief moments of darkness so the sky ends up looking a dull grey. The golfers in the distance were silhouetted against the sky like that.

And remember that is a small 100% crop from a 1080 line capture.

Early Edition on CBS -- classic show. It was Kyle Chandlers first major role and between the first and last seasons he really grew as an actor.

My DVR cut away for the end.

What was said or happened after the black players did not run during the drill?

They took off their helments and walked off the field in a single-file line. Lots and lots of macroblocking tonight. KRNV-DT Reno via Charter.

As if the Coach weren't haven't a tough enough first season, he has racial tensions in the team. At least Mac's mouth just made sure he'll never be getting a coaching job.

I'm having trouble remembering our powder puff football. I thought it was just flag football whiich meant no blocking. Also the ref would count off five seconds before the defenders could cross the line of scrimmage and sack the QB.

I understand why Matt picked Tyra first. The woman is a towering six feet tall and has great organizational skills when she doesn't have a guy on top of her. Picking Julie third was obviously a terrible mistake.

Julie interacting with her dad was great. I loved the way he said "Please, don't break our trust." Parents say "please" these days? Did their parents finally teach them some manners? Aimee Teegarden is a lefty in case any guys dig that.

Did Tyra drop the f-bomb? When she went into the car dealership, she said "Mom? Mom?", leaned over over a cubile wall, then it sounded like she quietly said "f***" to herself when she saw her mom wasn't there. That word wasn't captioned so that makes me suspcious.

I LOVED last night's episode. The arguments between the Mother and Julie, with the coach stepping in, seemed very realistic. There was stuttering, huffs and puffs and the "Whatever" phrase. Nice to see a show act realistic with these situations instead of a bunch of 16-18 year old English PhDs.

I found myself getting upset with the late hits and face masks against Smash. I guess I thought I was watching a real game for a second...LOL. I like Smash's mom.

I wasn't sure that I liked the subplot of Julie haning out with Tyra, but I get it now. After the hot tub incident with Matt and the rally girls, she isn't sure what to believe. She thought he was a good guy, still likes him, but is confused. Easy to get mixed up with someone like Tryra.

"I was scared for you out there". "I was ok. I just stand in the back and yell stuff"

I have quite a few shows I watch every week, but all of them, except this one, I have some issues with, or some episodes I wasn't fond of. So far, this show has been incredible from day one.

Very well put and agree with everything you say this show is 1 of the best on TV

It really is a simply amazing show. I really hope NBC gives it a second season. and maybe promotes the hell out of it during the summer. Perhaps rerrunning the show from the begining allowing people to catch up, or tune in.

That would be perfect. Right now, there are so many good shows on TV, I think people don't have time to start another new show, like this one. Especially those without a DVR. Rerunning this show from beginning to end during the Summer would be a perfect idea.

I lived in Cockeysville a few years ago.