Saving Private Ryan on HBO HD 10/7/06 at 11:35pm (PDT) - Page 2

You guys are smoking something or need glasses. I taped the movie this week on dvhs with 169 time mod with a dtc 100 with no glitches and ab'd it with my dvd on my sanyo plvz4. My hd tape was way better and had equally good sound. This new transfer rocks. Remember this film was shot with altered color tones and increased grain to give it an antique stark look.

Well the one they showed last night was not HD. I watched it side by side with the DVD version and the DVD version was much better. I understand the way the film was meant to look, and it wasnt how it looked on HBO last night.

The picture was incredibly soft and oversaturated. It was so soft that most of the grain that is supposed to be there was almost gone. This is one of my most watched movies of all time and there is no way last night on HBO was HD. The DVD version had tons more detail in it's image.

It was either HBO or Cinemax. Either way the picture quality last night stunk compared to the last time it aired. I know how this movie is suppose to look and it looked like terrible last night. The picture was not a HD picture. It had to be an upconvert.

Last time it was aired in HD was on Cinemax. I watched most of it then and watched bits on HBO last night and didn't notice much of a difference (if any). I definitely didn't notice the "upconvert" quality you guys were talking about compared to the last time it aired. This looked awesome compared to HD "transfers" of Kill Bill (both movies), She's All That (I watched a bit of it yesterday on TNT) & Apollo 13 (watched bits of it's airing on ABC when they aired it). Those are aweful transfers (and looked like poor upconverts IMO). HBO's airing looked very HD to me.

I'm glad you said that. It looked my upconverting Sony DVD player. There was resolution but no sharpness. The sound was lacking too. I know that this was filmed with some kind of filter(s), but the colors looked especially muted as well.

I've seen it 3 times in the theater and a dozen times on DVD & HD from ABC and TNT. HBO's version was lacking big time.

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I also saw this a few weeks ago on ABC I guess it was. Last night's showing on HBO did look horrible in of of itself and compared to the ABC showing it was poor.

For all us "ignorant" people who are just too blind to see it, would you mind pointing out the picture quality differences?







All images resized to 1280x720 to match ABC.

HDTVFanAtic,

are you saying there was no difference, or that the pic quality on HBO was good?

Apparently their is no winning an argument with you. So we will agree to disagree. But I can say that I am not the only one that thought the picture quality was lacking last night.

I don't believe there even is an argument, nor should there be. It is obvious that more than one person saw that the PQ was poor and in fact many saw it as poor, because in fact it was poor. Why would the many that saw it as horrible make it up? It had nothing to do with providers or any other BS excuses. It was simply HBO's showing had poor quality.

I think the captures definitively silence the debate. Memory is a tricky thing particulary visual memory.

The three captures clearly show the same quality transfer.

Yes if they are all from the same recording and source. There is no caption to denote which is which and who is to say they are not all from HBO last night.

When I see and know something to be a fact with my own two eyes then I call BS. I know beyond a reasonable doubt that last nights showing was indeed not only less quality than the ABC showing it was actually poor in and of itself.

I was the film on HBO last night, and was pleasantly surprised the the PQ. There is no way this was an upconvert.

It probably wasn't an upconvert, but it didn't look any better than the dvd to me. I'll take the DTS sound over the DD 5.1 right now anyway. When this comes out on HD-DVD then I will get excited.

ROFLMAO

So much for you and seeing PQ - How can you miss the bug

If you can't even see the bug, don't even bother to preach to me about the differences in PQ and your stellar ABC versus the subpar HBO that are right beside each other with no difference.

Next I guess you'll be telling me I used photoshop to put the TNT and ABC bug on last night HBO's broadcast.

You are correct, you cannot win - because as proven above, you are wrong. As they say, a picture is worth a thousand words.

When it was on cinemax-hd a few months ago, it looked gorgeous for the first battle, and looked gorgeous the last battle+ few minutes. But, in between it can look horrible.

HDTVFanatic, how did you capture the HBO showing of SPR? The only straight digital captures I can do are from programming that is sourced OTA (for lack of a better explanation), I can't capture HBO shows to my computer--I use firewire connected to my Comcast STB.

This was sort of my impression from HBO last night. The two big battles were excellent in the PQ dept. In between less so and in some cases poor.

Perhaps some folks were looking at the lesser quality portions and comparing them in memory to the better portions.

I have an HTPC connected to my widescreen and when I viewed the clips I didn't scroll to the right to see the station logo or bug as many see it. Having said that you can show me anything you want, but I know beyond a doubt that the pic quality was better on ABC than HBO. I have a local FIOS cable co. and I know that wasn't the issue.

Give us (3) captures of the scene where Hanks was talking to Danson after shooting the Germans when the wall fell and right before they met the first private Ryan who was the wrong guy.

Also when you resize pics is screen resolution of 720p or 1080i the same as sizing a pic to those sizes?

Ding, Ding, Ding......We have a winner

Count me in! I would love for Dreamworks to get this out with a Dolby TrueHD soundtrack

I have proven to myself and any other reasonable person that you are incorrect. You will choose never to believe even if its staring you in the face. The transfers are the same, thats all there is to it.

Now, I charge $250 an hour for my time, it will take about 1.5 hours to pull the hard drives, locate the scenes and post them. You can paypal me the $375 and I'll be happy to do it.

Otherwise, we've all seen what yours and others memory is like.

Quit picking on HDTVFanAtic, he's only right you know








Umm, what TV set you guys are using? Calibrated? It affects the image your seeing.

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" . . . . . . upconverted, no sharpness, picture quality stunk, colors muted, DVD version is better, incredibly soft and oversaturated, etc"

I disagree

BTW to those lucky ones who happen to cap the E* broadcast (1920x1080i rez 13 Average Video Bitrate) like me you have the best version out there. ABC and TNT have their frakkking logo/pop ads and commercials (you can remove them but its not the same. The edits are distracting) and D* which is umm whats that word again, darn I can't recall exactly

Hey how do you guys cap these scenes off of cable and then get them to your computer?? I can't do that with Comcast cable's pay channels!

5C copy protection.

This caps are from satellite.

Why are you being such a prick? You can have your own opinion without shoving it down everyones throat. I said that I didn't think the picture quality was as good as I have seen from previous viewings. I never said that everyone had to agree with me, but some people did. You come in and say we are all idiots because we don't agree with what you saw. Why does it matter that I don't agree with you?

Yes, you can have your own opinion. Rationale people realize that when the evidence doesn't support their opinion, they get off their high horse and realize that maybe they were wrong without attacking as you have chosen to do.

If evidence is presented that I am mistaken, I gladly admit, as I did earlier this week when D* first started their downresolution from 1920x1080i to 1280x1080i.

Only an idiot continues to argue against indisputable evidence to the contrary.

You are apparently determined to win an unwinnable arguement - others can take your statement and judge your opinion for themselves. Sorry if you don't like the scrunity, but you did make the statement.