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post #31 of 12251
..hoping beyond hope..Costco will get the new Sharps!
post #32 of 12251
for any 42D62U owners, can we get some feedback on viewing angles please?

the 46" is too big for my entertainment unit.
post #33 of 12251
Sharp Aquos running PS3s in a recent Sega gaming show in Japan:

post #34 of 12251
I just wanted to say thank you, Therese, for all you have done so far for all of us. Your reviews have been most helpful and I look forward to your future posts.
post #35 of 12251
WELL I JUST TOOK THE PLUNGE. i went to CC and BB and they both have the 46. and yes, i worked a GREAT deal at BB. I couldnt help myself. I have been researching for a while and finally said screw it and bought the 46d62u. it was either that or the 4695, and i hope my decision will be a good one. Nice to have 30 days in case i dont feel good about it, but from what i hear that shouldnt be the case.

it will be delivered by the weekend ,and i will be hooking it up to direct tv hd20 dvr box and everything below now, i need to figure out what cables i need to drive everything properly.

I will have this

HD DVR h20 direct tv
hk340 receiver
advent speakers 5.1
svs pb10 nsd sub
oppo 971H dvd player

therese or anyone, what should i get (and where) to make sure i get the best connections? i purchased a couple extra digital opticals online when i got my dvd player, but figure i need hdmi and some more stuff.

once i get this later this week, i will be glad to post my thoughts. and if anyone has any questions please feel free to ask.

i cant wait for this bad boy!
post #36 of 12251
Therese,

I am new to this but have one question. If the price of the Sharp and the Sony XBR were the same than which one would you have bought?
post #37 of 12251
Thanks to Therese for being the guinea pig on these..............With her experience, I also dove in head first. I feel that if I can get an image that is close to the XBR2 without the damn image smearing, I'll be happy. I also got mine at BB (magnolia) and was really suprised with the final price I negotiated. When I factor that in I figure this was really a no brainer especially for the size.
post #38 of 12251
Okay, so I've been following this forum since the beginning of September. I had been using a 27" Panny CRT for 4 years. I had an HD box, but no HDTV. So I decided it was time. With PS3 coming up, I needed to upgrade. This forum has been so helpful. I was considering the XBR2 as well, but I purchased the 46d62u which was way less than a 40XBR2, so I'm happy. So, I went into BB yesterday, negotiated the price down to a good amount, and took the plunge. I want to think this forum for informing me that BB was negotiable. I had no clue!

Okay, let's go.

Hooked up my Comcast Motorola 3412 via HDMI. Awesome.

Hooked up my Apple Powerbook G4 via HDMI. Sweet.

I have 2 questions for anyone who may know:

1) Using Dot by Dot when watching from an HD box, does anyone else see any noise on the top of their screens when viewing non-HD commercials and non-HD channels? I used to see it when I had my HD box plugged into my 5 year old 27" Panny CRT. I'm beginning to think I should use Stretch mode when watching SD channels to get rid of the noise on top. I probably just answered my own question, but the noise is probably there becase I'm using Dot by Dot and I'm seeing every line and every pixel, and the noise would not be there if the feed was slightly overscanned.

2) I connected my PowerBook G4 via HDMI. Used 1:1, and it's friggin amazing. I'm typing this from my couch right now with my bluetooth mouse & keyboard (a dream!). Okay, so when I look at my display preferences it tells me that the Mac is outputting 1920x1080 interlaced @ 60Hz. But when I hit the display button on my Sharp remote, it says that the input is coming in as a 1080p. I jumped for joy when I saw 1080p because I've read other threads stating that older PowerBooks are only capable of 1080i, and the new Mac Books can do 1080p. Okay, so I guess my question is, what am I outputting and what am I looking at on the display? 1080i or 1080p? Regardless, it looks damn good.

On a side note, I popped in "The Matrix Reloaded" into my Powerbook, and I seriously was amazed. I knew DVDs looked pretty good, but coming from a 27" CRT, I was seriously blown away. In particular, I looked at the highway chase scene. I kept thinking "Wow, do I really need HD-DVD/Blu-ray????" I know, I know. I've seen how they look in the stores, they are definitely drop dead gorgeous. I'm just reacting to watching a DVD on an HDTV for the first time ever. I guess I'll be even more blown away after I get my PS3 and pop in a Blu-ray movie. Anyone have any suggestions on which movie to purchase first?

BTW, I LOVE this TV.
post #39 of 12251
Thread Starter 
Go to the Blue-Ray/HD-DVD sections on this very website timothias. It's like the old Genesis-SNES or Saturn-PlayStation days in there, an orgy of fanaticism and downright bloody confrontation. BR has some good-looking movies but, in term of sales and overall customer satisfaction, the HD-DVD is pretty much slaughtering the Sony BR juggernaut right now!

Congrats on your new 46D62U, please post pictures if you can of your set-up and new TV on this thread. We want pics, we want pics, we want pics!
post #40 of 12251
Does Anyone Know.........

exactly where the LC-42D62U is made? So if it's not the Kamayama II plant, could it be the Kamayama I plant?

I prefer to blow my money on a set that was made by a country with the highest quality control... and usually that is Japan.

The problem is the 46" might be too big for me. Thats why I need to go 42". I'm sitting approx. 6 feet from the wall which is going to be where the TV will be in my little den.
post #41 of 12251
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Originally Posted by l337hxr View Post

Does Anyone Know.........

exactly where the LC-42D62U is made? So if it's not the Kamayama II plant, could it be the Kamayama I plant?

I prefer to blow my money on a set that was made by a country with the highest quality control... and usually that is Japan.

The problem is the 46" might be too big for me. Thats why I need to go 42". I'm sitting approx. 6 feet from the wall which is going to be where the TV will be in my little den.

I'm sitting about 6.5-7ft from the TV and it looks fine. At first I thought it was a too big, but I think it's just perfect for HD content. SD is another story. While it looks decent, you may want to go for the 42" if you watch a lot of SD. No scientific experiment here; just a noob's suggestion.
post #42 of 12251
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Originally Posted by timothias View Post

I have 2 questions for anyone who may know:

1) Using Dot by Dot when watching from an HD box, does anyone else see any noise on the top of their screens when viewing non-HD commercials and non-HD channels? I used to see it when I had my HD box plugged into my 5 year old 27" Panny CRT. I'm beginning to think I should use Stretch mode when watching SD channels to get rid of the noise on top. I probably just answered my own question, but the noise is probably there becase I'm using Dot by Dot and I'm seeing every line and every pixel, and the noise would not be there if the feed was slightly overscanned.


BTW, I LOVE this TV.

Answer to #1 on my previous gen 45". My owners manual addresses this. Certain broadcasts will present a razor thin line horizontally at the top of the display on some dot-by-dot - I've been informed it's cause by underscan to accomodate 1:1 rather than having overscan to take away part of the picture. Most of the time it's perfect but in certain broadcasts it's there and my manual simply tells you to switch view modes but i rarely do as dot-by-dot is easily the best on mine anyways and put up with it during some commercials or if it persists during a broadcast I switch view modes. I never see it during 1080i broadcasts and never with HD DVD or Xbox360.
post #43 of 12251
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Originally Posted by timothias View Post

Okay, so I've been following this forum since the beginning of September. I had been using a 27" Panny CRT for 4 years. I had an HD box, but no HDTV. So I decided it was time. With PS3 coming up, I needed to upgrade. This forum has been so helpful. I was considering the XBR2 as well, but I purchased the 46d62u which was way less than a 40XBR2, so I'm happy. So, I went into BB yesterday, negotiated the price down to a good amount, and took the plunge. I want to think this forum for informing me that BB was negotiable. I had no clue!

Okay, let's go.

Hooked up my Comcast Motorola 3412 via HDMI. Awesome.

Hooked up my Apple Powerbook G4 via HDMI. Sweet.

I have 2 questions for anyone who may know:

1) Using Dot by Dot when watching from an HD box, does anyone else see any noise on the top of their screens when viewing non-HD commercials and non-HD channels? I used to see it when I had my HD box plugged into my 5 year old 27" Panny CRT. I'm beginning to think I should use Stretch mode when watching SD channels to get rid of the noise on top. I probably just answered my own question, but the noise is probably there becase I'm using Dot by Dot and I'm seeing every line and every pixel, and the noise would not be there if the feed was slightly overscanned.

2) I connected my PowerBook G4 via HDMI. Used 1:1, and it's friggin amazing. I'm typing this from my couch right now with my bluetooth mouse & keyboard (a dream!). Okay, so when I look at my display preferences it tells me that the Mac is outputting 1920x1080 interlaced @ 60Hz. But when I hit the display button on my Sharp remote, it says that the input is coming in as a 1080p. I jumped for joy when I saw 1080p because I've read other threads stating that older PowerBooks are only capable of 1080i, and the new Mac Books can do 1080p. Okay, so I guess my question is, what am I outputting and what am I looking at on the display? 1080i or 1080p? Regardless, it looks damn good.

On a side note, I popped in "The Matrix Reloaded" into my Powerbook, and I seriously was amazed. I knew DVDs looked pretty good, but coming from a 27" CRT, I was seriously blown away. In particular, I looked at the highway chase scene. I kept thinking "Wow, do I really need HD-DVD/Blu-ray????" I know, I know. I've seen how they look in the stores, they are definitely drop dead gorgeous. I'm just reacting to watching a DVD on an HDTV for the first time ever. I guess I'll be even more blown away after I get my PS3 and pop in a Blu-ray movie. Anyone have any suggestions on which movie to purchase first?

BTW, I LOVE this TV.

to remove dot by dot noise at top of picture simply go to picture position in the menu and adjust upwards till it is gone . thats it. you dont have to swich modes.
chris
post #44 of 12251
Thread Starter 
welcome ysmael, when are you going to post your settings, opinions and pictures of your D62U TV? After all, yours was the first report we got on the "other" thread about these sets' availability.
post #45 of 12251
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Originally Posted by dad1153 View Post

welcome ysmael, when are you going to post your settings, opinions and pictures of your D62U TV? After all, yours was the first report we got on the "other" thread about these sets' availability.

soon i hope . been working all weekend . i'm actualy posting from work .
chris
post #46 of 12251
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Originally Posted by Imho4ep View Post

for any 42D62U owners, can we get some feedback on viewing angles please?

the 46" is too big for my entertainment unit.

I just had my 42D62U delivered today. I"m not sure what you're looking for as far as viewing angles. But, I'm able to view the set at a variety of angles and distances. The only difference is that the images lighten up considerably and the upper and lower bars in letter box range anywhere from grayish to blueish colors depending on viewing height and angle.

This panel definitely looks best when sitting directly in front of it. Unfortunately, I didn't actively evaluate the viewing angle performance of other panels before purchasing this one. But, I do think that Samsung and Sony might be a bit better at off viewing angles.

I can say that the images this panel can produce while sitting directly in front of it are absolutely stunning. I still have yet to completely calibrate this panel.

Hope that helps.
post #47 of 12251
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Originally Posted by Jugdish69 View Post

Thanks to Therese for being the guinea pig on these..............With her experience, I also dove in head first. I feel that if I can get an image that is close to the XBR2 without the damn image smearing, I'll be happy. I also got mine at BB (magnolia) and was really suprised with the final price I negotiated. When I factor that in I figure this was really a no brainer especially for the size.

It will be intresting to find out what you think in a week or two with your Sharp. Yes I'm bias and I've always thought the Sharps are an overall better TV than Sony. I'll bet you'll love this TV. My d5u has three items the new one don't CMS color management system, cablecard and DVI-I. I hope in the future they add these.

Look foward to your first impressions.
post #48 of 12251
Thread Starter 
bump
post #49 of 12251
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Originally Posted by oldcband View Post

It will be intresting to find out what you think in a week or two with your Sharp. Yes I'm bias and I've always thought the Sharps are an overall better TV than Sony. I'll bet you'll love this TV. My d5u has three items the new one don't CMS color management system, cablecard and DVI-I. I hope in the future they add these.

Look foward to your first impressions.


Ya know it's interesting, when I was waiting for the guy to speak with his manager on meeting my price, I was watching HDnet on the 57" Samsung LCD and saw the exact same image smearing I saw on the Sony. As a matter of fact it was probably slightly worse. I asked the guy for the remote, low and behold, NR was on. When I turned it off, the smear went away but there was a noticable increase in noise on the screen. I thought the Sony processing was to blame before, but I wonder if Sony and Samsung share more than just panels.
post #50 of 12251
For me personally the viewing angle of the 42 was extremely poor. Anything outside of front and center results in a washed out picture. From my personal experiences, the Samsung 's viewing angles blow this 42" away. I'm limited with my size options due to a built-in entertainment wall. I'm returning this 42" for the Samsung LND4095D. Best of luck everyone!
post #51 of 12251
Thread Starter 
Thanks for the honesty rcraigiii. Hope things work out with your new Sammy LCD.
post #52 of 12251
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Originally Posted by rcraigiii View Post

For me personally the viewing angle of the 42 was extremely poor. Anything outside of front and center results in a washed out picture. From my personal experiences, the Samsung 's viewing angles blow this 42" away. I'm limited with my size options due to a built-in entertainment wall. I'm returning this 42" for the Samsung LND4095D. Best of luck everyone!

But the 46" is a lot better viewing angles right?
post #53 of 12251
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Originally Posted by purell View Post

But the 46" is a lot better viewing angles right?

It should but I've yet to compare.
post #54 of 12251
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by purell View Post

But the 46" is a lot better viewing angles right?

Both the 46" and 52" D62U's have received thumbs up from people that have bought them for extreme angle viewing (within reason!).
post #55 of 12251
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Originally Posted by fourleaf View Post

WELL I JUST TOOK THE PLUNGE. i went to CC and BB and they both have the 46. and yes, i worked a GREAT deal at BB. I couldnt help myself. I have been researching for a while and finally said screw it and bought the 46d62u. it was either that or the 4695, and i hope my decision will be a good one. Nice to have 30 days in case i dont feel good about it, but from what i hear that shouldnt be the case.

it will be delivered by the weekend ,and i will be hooking it up to direct tv hd20 dvr box and everything below now, i need to figure out what cables i need to drive everything properly.

I will have this

HD DVR h20 direct tv
hk340 receiver
advent speakers 5.1
svs pb10 nsd sub
oppo 971H dvd player

therese or anyone, what should i get (and where) to make sure i get the best connections? i purchased a couple extra digital opticals online when i got my dvd player, but figure i need hdmi and some more stuff.

once i get this later this week, i will be glad to post my thoughts. and if anyone has any questions please feel free to ask.

i cant wait for this bad boy!

For me the DTV box can be finicky with an HDMI cable. I have both HDMI and component fo rthis box. Lately the HDMI has been fine. Since my Panny wuld not take 480i over DVI/HDMO - I used component. The Sharp will take 480i via HDMI. Not sure which is better yet. Get both cables - and play

Sorry - cant help with the rest of your equipment.

Therese
post #56 of 12251
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Originally Posted by lcdtv View Post

Therese,

I am new to this but have one question. If the price of the Sharp and the Sony XBR were the same than which one would you have bought?

I answered in the other thread - Again..The XBR2 46" for me (due to a family member) is/was cheaper than the Sharp. I purchased the Sharp for substantially more than the XBR2 would have cost me.

Therese
post #57 of 12251
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Originally Posted by timothias View Post

Okay, so I've been following this forum since the beginning of September. I had been using a 27" Panny CRT for 4 years. I had an HD box, but no HDTV. So I decided it was time. With PS3 coming up, I needed to upgrade. This forum has been so helpful. I was considering the XBR2 as well, but I purchased the 46d62u which was way less than a 40XBR2, so I'm happy. So, I went into BB yesterday, negotiated the price down to a good amount, and took the plunge. I want to think this forum for informing me that BB was negotiable. I had no clue!

Amazing what you can do at BB eh... And congrats again!

Quote:


1) Using Dot by Dot when watching from an HD box, does anyone else see any noise on the top of their screens when viewing non-HD commercials and non-HD channels? I used to see it when I had my HD box plugged into my 5 year old 27" Panny CRT. I'm beginning to think I should use Stretch mode when watching SD channels to get rid of the noise on top. I probably just answered my own question, but the noise is probably there becase I'm using Dot by Dot and I'm seeing every line and every pixel, and the noise would not be there if the feed was slightly overscanned.

That noise you see is extra information (like cc and stuff) that is sent with the broadcast signal. Most displays overscan and hence you do not see it. In dot by dot - you are seeing the full picture without overscan. With the Sharp you have two methods to alleviate - choose your poison You can use the standard stretch (not smart) and it will overscan. Essentialy doing what other sets do by default that you cannot turn off in other sets. Or - there is also a nifty feature that allows you to reset the position of the picture for all inputs and modes - you can adjust this - just be careful you do not impact other feeds/sources on the same input and mode. But its a GREAT feature!

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2) I connected my PowerBook G4 via HDMI. Used 1:1, and it's friggin amazing. I'm typing this from my couch right now with my bluetooth mouse & keyboard (a dream!). Okay, so when I look at my display preferences it tells me that the Mac is outputting 1920x1080 interlaced @ 60Hz. But when I hit the display button on my Sharp remote, it says that the input is coming in as a 1080p. I jumped for joy when I saw 1080p because I've read other threads stating that older PowerBooks are only capable of 1080i, and the new Mac Books can do 1080p. Okay, so I guess my question is, what am I outputting and what am I looking at on the display? 1080i or 1080p? Regardless, it looks damn good.

Thats weird. Not sure on the powerbook - 'cause I have an iMac and macbook. But mine states 1920 x1080 - I posted a pic and its at 60hz. I believe - and since i am not a computer/mac whiz - someone else can correct me here - that if you are outputting 1920/1080 at 60HZ - that is 1080p. My other PC's also state 1080p (Nvidia and ATI cards)

It doe slook good doesnt it?

Quote:


On a side note, I popped in "The Matrix Reloaded" into my Powerbook, and I seriously was amazed. I knew DVDs looked pretty good, but coming from a 27" CRT, I was seriously blown away. In particular, I looked at the highway chase scene. I kept thinking "Wow, do I really need HD-DVD/Blu-ray????" I know, I know. I've seen how they look in the stores, they are definitely drop dead gorgeous. I'm just reacting to watching a DVD on an HDTV for the first time ever. I guess I'll be even more blown away after I get my PS3 and pop in a Blu-ray movie. Anyone have any suggestions on which movie to purchase first?

BTW, I LOVE this TV.

My suggestion..an HD DVD player You simply will not believe the PQ form the HD DVD on this set. I mean - mind blowing...simply fantastic. Detailed, crisp, 3-D. I am running out of adjectives here Then but Batman retursn, Sereneity, Chronicles Of Riddick, Aeon FLux, Corpse Bride and be WOWED!!!!

Yea...I am loving mine as well

Therese
post #58 of 12251
Due to my messing with all my equipment yesterday I blew up my DTVbox - No sunday ticket. Had to go to the local pub to catch the games. My fins lost - but my BEARS are da bomb!!! Anyways...on the way back stopped at a CC - and lo and behold they had the Sharp 42".

I only spent a few minutes 'cause my SO - was not interested in viewing any TV's at this moment

But - I am sad to report that this set does not display the same as the 46 & 52. Without tweaking and playing - the two standout issues I saw were backlight bleeding/banding and a severe drop off in light and color off axis. I mean about 50% at about 50-75 degrees. It was hard to believe this was the smaller cousin of the 52".

I wish to implore those considering the Sharp 42" - please go see it in person and do not use the reports of the 46 & 52" Sharps D62's. We had a pretty good idea they(Sharp) was using a different panel and technology. What we did not know was the impact. Again - I did not test anything else to any extent and cannot report on other PQ. But the above concerns me that the 42" Sharp may be a different beast in the D62 lineup.

Therese
post #59 of 12251
From my observation the side viewing angle of the 46d62u is better than the 46XBR2, but both are so good that I don't think anyone will ever be watching at the angles required to detect the difference.
post #60 of 12251
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by wpwj40e View Post

...stopped at a CC - and lo and behold they had the Sharp 42".

I am sad to report that this set does not display the same as the 46 & 52. Without tweaking and playing - the two standout issues I saw were backlight bleeding/banding and a severe drop off in light and color off axis. I mean about 50% at about 50-75 degrees. It was hard to believe this was the smaller cousin of the 52".

I wish to implore those considering the Sharp 42" - please go see it in person and do not use the reports of the 46 & 52" Sharps D62's. We had a pretty good idea they(Sharp) was using a different panel and technology. What we did not know was the impact. Again - I did not test anything else to any extent and cannot report on other PQ. But the above concerns me that the 42" Sharp may be a different beast in the D62 lineup.

She has spoken down to you people... avoid the 42D62U like the plague or risk the wrath of your conscience badgering you for not choosing a 46" or 52" D62U instead!
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