The "Official" Yamaha RX-V659 / HTR-5960 Thread! - Page 12

Originally Posted by robg73

are u sure about that just asking cuz have not seen it in print but if u r then thnx! u just made my decision more difficult! haha jk

Originally Posted by Johnla

Even if they both did not use the same DAC's, you very likely could not even tell any difference between them in the way they sound just because of the DAC's they use. And probably more so when you are talking about something where both of them are sold at street prices in the $300-$450 range.

Originally Posted by trainCatcer

I've had the HTR-5960 for over six months now and really enjoy it. I recently added a sub to my setup and started playing around with the crossover settings for music listening. I found that while the sub output matches the crossover setting, the mains output remains unchanged! The crossover setting has no effect on the mains signal. My mains reach down to 35 Hz, but their bass output can get muddy at higher volumes. I would like my sub to completely take over at 60 or 80 Hz and not have any "doubling up" of bass with the mains. Here are my settings:

Mode: 2 Channel Stereo
Front: Small
Crossover: 60 or 80
LFE out: Sub

There is no sub output if I set my mains to large or listen in Pure Direct mode.

Any advice?

Originally Posted by Slidell

PD Mode is just that, straight wire with gain, mains only. I normally listen to music in 2.1 Stereo mode, EQ only no sound fields. If you can use the Sub in Pure Direct, I missed it.

If your fronts are set small and the Sub is crossed to 80hz then all should be good unless you have BOTH selected (LFE) in set ups. The manual has left me scratching my head more than once, hope this helped.

Originally Posted by trainCatcer

I thought selecting LFE/BASS OUT to sub and front to small would do it (send no low frequnecy to front), but it doesn't. Instead the fronts still gets the full signal, while the sub gets the low pass. Yeah, the sub gets no signal in PD regardless of front/LFE settings.

Originally Posted by Slidell

There's something wrong here. When mine are set to small, 80hz or whatever set, and below is sent to the sub. You did set your sub cross over right? I only get full range on mains when fronts set to large.

Shut off your sub and set cross over to 200hz with mains set to small, any difference?
Anything below 200hz should be sent to sub with high pass at 200hz and above to mains.

If not then check to see if the LFE/BASS OUT is set to front. This overrides the small/large settings.

Originally Posted by trainCatcer

Thanks for the response. The mains still get the full signal when the crossover is at 200 Hz. I see no difference in the mains output. Did you test by ear or have you done any measurements? I use a mic and Room EQ Wizard for my measurements.

Originally Posted by robg73

does anyone know if this receiver htr 5960 has assignable amps? for instance in a two channel set up can i biwire my speakers and send 100x2w to each speaker?

Originally Posted by jpomp

HDTV component through 5960 to projector looks outstanding.

One question (not sure which forum to ask): I see a very very faint thin horizontal line that moves slowly from bottom to top when watching cable tv. I have a feeling it might be something related to signal interference/dirty power, but I'm not sure and I don't just want to go out and drop $100 on a 'clean power' strip when I don't need it.

Any thoughts? Thanks...

Looking for a quick answer. I have 4 ohm rear surround 's and I am wondering what i should set the receiver at to run all my speakers. My fronts and center are 8 Ohm JBL's. The rears are my old Panasonic, i thought I would hook em up for a try. I have it set to 6 Ohms right now . But there are alot of diffrent opinons at what to run the amp at 6,or 8? Anyone ?

Originally Posted by Jay-Stew

Ok , I Used the YPAO for an Auto setup and I get a warning mesage, W1. It says my LF speaker is out of phase...... I am assuming they mean the polarity is backwards. so i switch the wires on the speaker. i run another Auto ssetup and now I get warning W1 again. It now says RF speaker out of phase...... so I switch this one too. Now i get no warning and setup is good. But......... i am reading and the manual says that even though the speakers are hooked up CORRECTLY , you still may get a warning message W1. Can somone exlplain this one to me? Or am I just missing something?

Originally Posted by psycho dad

I have 8 ohm front, side, rear, and presence. My center is 2-8 ohms in series (making it 4 ohm). My receiver is set to 8 ohm. I have set volume as high as +10 with no problems.

Originally Posted by Louis Zerr

Great stuff on the crossover issue. I am hoping that i don't run into any snags in my set up.

Mine came today!! I need to get it hooked up now!! I only have an old 5.1 HK speaker set up with a crappy 8" sub, new speakers will be coming too. Still looking at best bang for buck for a 14X22X8 room. 1 sub or 2?

Originally Posted by Louis Zerr

Great stuff on the crossover issue. I am hoping that i don't run into any snags in my set up.

Mine came today!! I need to get it hooked up now!! I only have an old 5.1 HK speaker set up with a crappy 8" sub, new speakers will be coming too. Still looking at best bang for buck for a 14X22X8 room. 1 sub or 2?

Originally Posted by Slidell

YPAO is not perfect. If you are running a sub, try both positions and go for the loudest bass if you hear it. If your not running a sub, YPAO may be deciding the phase simply on loudest base output, guessing here. You might e-mail Yamaha tech to get them to clarify for you.

Depending on which center speaker I run, mine has me reverse phase my sub, go figure. A RS sound level meter can help here if you can't here any difference.

Originally Posted by Slidell

Welcome! You got what, the RX or HTR? I think you will enjoy the YPAO, let us know if you get issues or not. One issue has been the auto setup setting the Sub X-over to 200hz, as mine did, just reset it manually.

Cheers

Originally Posted by BHP1

I just purchased a 5960. My TV only has one HDMI input, and I currently use an HDMI switcher with my Denon upconverting DVD and Motorola STB, so I don't plan to hook up any video source to my receiver, only audio via optical.

Can I run an S-Video cable from the 5960 to the S-video input on my LCD and see the 5960 OSD??

Thanks!!

Originally Posted by Jay-Stew

Ok , I Used the YPAO for an Auto setup and I get a warning mesage, W1. It says my LF speaker is out of phase...... I am assuming they mean the polarity is backwards. so i switch the wires on the speaker. i run another Auto ssetup and now I get warning W1 again. It now says RF speaker out of phase...... so I switch this one too. Now i get no warning and setup is good. But......... i am reading and the manual says that even though the speakers are hooked up CORRECTLY , you still may get a warning message W1. Can somone exlplain this one to me? Or am I just missing something?

Originally Posted by teds12

Jay-Stew,
If that were me, before I reversed ANY speaker connection, I would have meticulously checked the polarity of every connection in my system, particularly those for the LF and RF speakers since I/we obviously tried pretty hard to get that right in the first place, e.g., we hooked up the copper colored wire to red and the tin colored wire to black or white (or used wire with clearly keyed insulation) with consistent interconnection.
But, from what I read, because you reversed both RF and LF wires you clearly had it right in the first place. There seems to have been some glitch in the YPAO setup.

At this point, what I would do is to shut off the receiver and check all of the wiring wire-by-wire and connection-by-connection until you're satisfied that you have it consistent AND CORRECT in which case the speakers have to be in phase. Then turn on the receiver and undo your first Auto setup, or restore all factory settings in the receiver using the menu prompts (see owner's manual) and then repeat the Auto setup.

I've had my HTR-5960 for about 4 weeks and have yet to perform an auto setup because I was satisfied that the 5 speaker sound levels in my room were as even as I would ever want them to be! I just re-checked polarity, etc., using an audio test CD and used manual setup to verify each speaker's assignment (large or small and set the bass crossover frequency) and have let it go at that for the time being. I tend to be a conservative "leave well-enough alone" type...

Ted

Originally Posted by gtp99red

I have had the same experience with YPAO indicating front speaker polarity switch and I knew it was a wrong indication because I checked and double-checked the wiring. What I found was that with the sub connected I got the warning but without it connected I got no warning. The problem with getting the warning is that YPAO appears to never finish even though the OSD looks like it does (crap software!). I was able to get it to work by reducing the gain on my sub. It almost indicates that the sub is causing some room resonances that may be affecting the process.
So far I am pleased with my receiver except for the quality of the software - It would be nice if they could (and would) update the software somehow. The menus really suck.