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post #2641 of 2839
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Originally Posted by heftydude View Post

I recall asking this same question before but never got a response. The manual to my 8001 implies that any audio only source could do this, but I could never get it setup to do so. Only the tuner. I was bummed.

I just got this working using the 7.1ch analog input. If you set the video under 7.1CH Input Setup as "Last", it will work as expected! CD input does not do this, neither does Aux2 even though it uses the very same jacks the 7.1CH LR inputs.

Maybe this works for the other modes if you're using the analog Monitor Outs. The manual sure makes it sound like it, but I've got at least three good reasons not to try.
post #2642 of 2839
from doing a little browsing on the subject it appears the main drawback to using a preamp without the HT bypass is level matching. you would have to be careful when calibrating your main speaker levels to keep the same preamp settings on your 2 channel preamp otherwise it would screw up the main speaker levels.
post #2643 of 2839
I'm looking to purchase a used SR7001 and it has the h50 firmware. Is this able to handle 7.1 lpcm correctly, or is h52 necessary for that? I'm nowhere near a service center, so I'd prefer not to have to ship the thing somewhere to get it upgraded. I will be using it with a PS3 if that makes a difference.
post #2644 of 2839
Yesterday while playing my PS3, we had a power surge that shut off all my equipment with exception of my Sony LCD. The PS3 and Sub powered up just fine after the surge but, the SR8001 did not.

After unplugging the 8001 for a few minutes, I installed the power cord but, the unit responds only with a blinking "stand by" LED on the front panel. No buttons on the unit or remote will respond. I tried plugging the unit in again after a five hour delay but, it responded in the same manner....nothing works.

Does anyone have an idea of what happened to the 8001 and the possible fixes for the problem?

Mike
post #2645 of 2839
Hi,
I'm using the SR5001 and am simply attempting to connect my PS3 to the SR5001 via HDMI. I have an HDMI cord coming from the PS3 to the HDMI input slot 1 on the SR, and then a cord going from the output on the SR to the TV's input. The PS3 detects the HDMI cord, but then when I agree to switch output to HDMI, the screen goes to no input. The PS3 works on other TV's/Monitors with HDMI, so I believe that the issue is the SR5001. Any ideas?
post #2646 of 2839
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Originally Posted by Rdrcr View Post

Yesterday while playing my PS3, we had a power surge that shut off all my equipment with exception of my Sony LCD. The PS3 and Sub powered up just fine after the surge but, the SR8001 did not.

After unplugging the 8001 for a few minutes, I installed the power cord but, the unit responds only with a blinking "stand by" LED on the front panel. No buttons on the unit or remote will respond. I tried plugging the unit in again after a five hour delay but, it responded in the same manner....nothing works.

Does anyone have an idea of what happened to the 8001 and the possible fixes for the problem?

Mike

You're probably fine--this happened to me 2-3 times before I finally put everything behind an UPS and it has not happened since. Try the "general malfunction" recovery from p 69 of the manual:

1. Unplug
2. Wait 3 minutes
3. Plug in and power up WITH THE REMOTE

For some reason it doesn't work to turn it on at the console itself (I don't remember if I read that somewhere or just tried the remote out of desperation). The flashing light should go away and it should power up normally. There is also a reset procedure on the same page that I have never had to try. It does seem to be overly sensitive to power fluctuations, but I've had no issues since I put in the SUA1500.
post #2647 of 2839
Quick question, maybe dumb maybe not. For a reason that is too long to go into at this hour of the night (in short I was trying to track down a hum/buzz from an analog source that may or not be a ground loop, or turntable issue), I jacked up my SR8001 all the way tonight while it was hooked up to a DVD player via HDMI with no DVD playing (in other words I would never jack it all the way up with a source playing, I'd blow my speakers to hell and back). Around the -20 or so mark it became apparent that each time I went up a decibel, there as a small "tick" noise coming from the speakers (also tested with headphones, same thing). It's not very loud, and I've never noticed it before because I had sound coming through. Anyway, I definately seem to be hearing the noise floor (white noise?) when a couple feet from my speakers at 0, and the ticking noise gets louder as the volume is raised was well. The reason I mention this is because I feel like when I first got the 8001 I did this little test, and the volume increase was smooth and quiet, with hardly any "white noise" even at +18. I checked out my father in law's Denon (lower model than the 8001 equivelent) and jacked all the way it was pretty damn quiet. So is my memory bad, or is something up? Anyone care to check by cranking all the way up without the source playing to see what you hear? Am I being unrealistic expecting the noise floor to be non-existent at 0? I have another question or two regarding the hum and also subwoofer behavior with an analog source, but I'll wait on those until I do some more troubleshooting.
post #2648 of 2839
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Originally Posted by jcm4 View Post

Hi,
I'm using the SR5001 and am simply attempting to connect my PS3 to the SR5001 via HDMI. I have an HDMI cord coming from the PS3 to the HDMI input slot 1 on the SR, and then a cord going from the output on the SR to the TV's input. The PS3 detects the HDMI cord, but then when I agree to switch output to HDMI, the screen goes to no input. The PS3 works on other TV's/Monitors with HDMI, so I believe that the issue is the SR5001. Any ideas?

Here's an answer that will be of no use, and probably not what you want to hear, but I had a very similar problem with the SR5001. I could only get 1 HDMI input to work. I sent it back and got the 8001. It could be coincidence, but I feel your pain.

Now, to try to be helpful. Did you try doing a reverse handshake? Have your receiver with your ps3 selected, turn everything off, turn on the ps3 first, let it boot, turn on the 5001 and wait for indication that it has done it's handshake with the ps3 (namely, you want to see speaker channels light up on the 5001 display), then turn on your TV/display. This is what I have to do with my Oppo 983 on my 8001. All other HDMI inputs work great no matter how or when I turn things on, off, or switch them, but I need to go through this procedure almost every time with my Oppo.

Hope that can help.

p.s. I looked at your post again and it seems like you may be having a problem even telling your PS3 to use the HDMI output? If so, you might try hooking it directly into the TV to make sure the PS3 is sending out the HDMI, then reconnect to your receiver and try the above sequence.
post #2649 of 2839
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Originally Posted by Dirac View Post

You're probably fine--this happened to me 2-3 times before I finally put everything behind an UPS and it has not happened since. Try the "general malfunction" recovery from p 69 of the manual:

1. Unplug
2. Wait 3 minutes
3. Plug in and power up WITH THE REMOTE

For some reason it doesn't work to turn it on at the console itself (I don't remember if I read that somewhere or just tried the remote out of desperation). The flashing light should go away and it should power up normally. There is also a reset procedure on the same page that I have never had to try. It does seem to be overly sensitive to power fluctuations, but I've had no issues since I put in the SUA1500.

Thank you very much! I'll try this tonight. In my panic, I must not have read power up with remote, go figure.

Thanks again,

Mike
post #2650 of 2839
I haven't been able to get my Marantz 6001 to work with my TV (Panny Plasma) for tv shows. Been able to get it to work with movies from my PS3 and games from PS3/wii....but haven't been able to get it to work from the tv when I watch sports. I tried using toslink and hdmi connect it back from my TV to my receiver but it did nothing. What am I missing?
post #2651 of 2839
I connect my panny plasma to my 7001 via toslink. hdmi doesn't come into play with this setup. Make sure whatever input you're using for the television on the 6001 is set up for the toslink port you're using. The panny will only output multichannel audio for signal received by the atsc tuner via antenna. Anything other source fed directly to the display (i.e. cable stb) will be output as stereo.
post #2652 of 2839
looking @ an SR8001 specifically for it's video switching of 4 HDMI inputs and 2 HDMI outputs. I have:

HDMI Inputs:
Tivo HD
XBOX 360
Blue ray player

Component:
Wii

Outputs:
Vizio 52" LCD
Optima HD20 front projector (same location as LCD)


I ran into this receiver when I was researching 4x2 switchers / splitters and was about to pull the trigger on the gefen 44x when I found this thread.

It appears that I would be able to run my HDMI sources on EITHER input 1 or input 2. Am I barking up the right tree here? I'm not necessarily concerned about HDMI 1.3, and from what I've read, I'll be fine, right?
post #2653 of 2839
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Originally Posted by tannerjr View Post

looking @ an SR8001 specifically for it's video switching of 4 HDMI inputs and 2 HDMI outputs. I have:

HDMI Inputs:
Tivo HD
XBOX 360
Blue ray player

Component:
Wii

Outputs:
Vizio 52" LCD
Optima HD20 front projector (same location as LCD)


I ran into this receiver when I was researching 4x2 switchers / splitters and was about to pull the trigger on the gefen 44x when I found this thread.

It appears that I would be able to run my HDMI sources on EITHER input 1 or input 2. Am I barking up the right tree here? I'm not necessarily concerned about HDMI 1.3, and from what I've read, I'll be fine, right?

Did you mean either OUTPUT 1 or 2? You can run HDMI into any/all of the four INPUTs, but you can only activate one HDMI output at a time. You can also check out the manual online to make sure the switching is going to work as you expect for your setup, especially since you're also throwing a component source into the mix. I think the HDMI spec for the receiver is 1.2a--it supports DSD but not the 1.3 deep color and sync features. And it will support 7.1 multichannel over HDMI with firmware h.52 and newer. (To whomever asked about h.50, not sure if that is 7.1 capable or not--I got my receiver with h.52).
post #2654 of 2839
Dirac,
thanks.
post #2655 of 2839
No problem. I should have also mentioned that it doesn't support the newer compressed lossless audio formats of the HDMI 1.3 spec, but it sounds like you're already aware of that. I believe they came out with support for them in the 8002 and newer receiver lines.
post #2656 of 2839
I have a question about connecting a turntable to my 8001. I have a decent preamp, so I'm good there. But how much processing is the 8001 doing to the analog signal if it's in the normal stereo mode (i.e. not source/pure direct)? Is it actually to the point where it has any sort of digital stage? I'm not sure how to word my questions really. Is the sound from the analog inputs digitized for processing? Since I'm using a turntable, I'd like to stay completely in the analog realm (of course), but if I use the source/pure direct modes (which I assume will keep me completely analog), I can't use my sub. My speakers are too small to handle it all without a sub.
Catch my drift? I'm a little confused. Maybe I need to invest in a simple amp for stereo sources that will allow me to listen to the pure analog sound with a sub? I've had the 8001 for a while, and I like it a lot, but I'm just getting back into vinyl, but the way I'm understanding things here is that it's not a great receiver for that???

HELP!!!!!!!!
post #2657 of 2839
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Originally Posted by El Espectro View Post

I have a question about connecting a turntable to my 8001. I have a decent preamp, so I'm good there. But how much processing is the 8001 doing to the analog signal if it's in the normal stereo mode (i.e. not source/pure direct)? Is it actually to the point where it has any sort of digital stage? I'm not sure how to word my questions really. Is the sound from the analog inputs digitized for processing? Since I'm using a turntable, I'd like to stay completely in the analog realm (of course), but if I use the source/pure direct modes (which I assume will keep me completely analog), I can't use my sub. My speakers are too small to handle it all without a sub.
Catch my drift? I'm a little confused. Maybe I need to invest in a simple amp for stereo sources that will allow me to listen to the pure analog sound with a sub? I've had the 8001 for a while, and I like it a lot, but I'm just getting back into vinyl, but the way I'm understanding things here is that it's not a great receiver for that???

HELP!!!!!!!!

Am I on crack, or something more powerful? I was wondering just now if I could use a Y adapter to hook up the sub to one of the stereo RCA outputs on the 8001 . . . put the receiver in pure direct, and dial in the crossover on my sub?? Is that dumb????
post #2658 of 2839
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Originally Posted by El Espectro View Post

Am I on crack, or something more powerful? I was wondering just now if I could use a Y adapter to hook up the sub to one of the stereo RCA outputs on the 8001 . . . put the receiver in pure direct, and dial in the crossover on my sub?? Is that dumb????

OK, obviously I didn't think that through or I would have realized sooner that the output level from the receiver wouldn't change with the volume control. Well, at least I realized it before I bothered to try it.

But I do have a Hsu STF-2 sub, which has stereo high level inputs, and a set of stereo speaker outputs for use with receivers that have no sub out. Maybe when I want to listen to pure analog I hook it up that way and use my sub as the crossover? Unless of course it's not needed because the answer to my original question is "no, the analog signal from your turntable never becomes digital or processed in any way when in stereo mode". As long as I could still use bass management, that would be the best case scenario.

I'm just looking for the best way to get my vinyl from my turntable to my speakers and sub, to my ears. Sorry for the many posts. And thanks for the soon to be received help!!!
post #2659 of 2839
Hi I have SR8001 for about 6 months now, it has the latest H.55 firmware. The service mode shows:
v080313 1u / mz 294967295 / ti v38609041 / hdmi ver h.55

Recently I bought LG BD390 and had issue with the 192 KHZ 5.1 output. The setup is like
[BD390] ---hdmi---> [SR8001] ---hdmi---> [LG 55LH90].
[HTPC] ---hdmi------^

If I select the audio output to be 192 khz 7.1 on LG BD390, the TV will flash/blackout. For the HTPC with ATI 4350 card, the 192 KHZ sampling rate is missing. Then I ran moninfo to troubleshoot, this is the output:
Monitor
Model name............... SR8001 HDMI1
Windows description...... Generic PnP Monitor
Manufacturer............. Marantz
Plug and Play ID......... MJI000C
Serial number............ n/a
Manufacture date......... 2007, ISO week 0
-------------------------
EDID revision............ 1.3
Input signal type........ Digital
Color bit depth.......... Undefined
Display type............. RGB color
Screen size.............. 930 x 520 mm (41.9 in)
Power management......... Active off/sleep
Extension blocs.......... 1 (CEA-EXT)
<---Omitted--->
CE audio data (formats supported)
LPCM 2-channel, 16/20/24 bit depths at 32/44/48/88/96/176/192 kHz
LPCM 8-channel, 16/20/24 bit depths at 32/44/48/88/96 kHz
AC-3 6-channel, 640k max. bit rate at 32/44/48 kHz
DTS 6-channel, 1920k max. bit rate at 32/44/48 kHz
SACD 6-channel at 44 kHz
<---Omitted--->

As you can see, the 8-channel LPCM only supports up to 96 kHZ. I want to check if this is only my receiver or all SR8001 are like that. Can you post your moninfo output? Thanks.
post #2660 of 2839
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Originally Posted by El Espectro View Post

I have a question about connecting a turntable to my 8001. I have a decent preamp, so I'm good there. But how much processing is the 8001 doing to the analog signal if it's in the normal stereo mode (i.e. not source/pure direct)? Is it actually to the point where it has any sort of digital stage? I'm not sure how to word my questions really. Is the sound from the analog inputs digitized for processing? Since I'm using a turntable, I'd like to stay completely in the analog realm (of course), but if I use the source/pure direct modes (which I assume will keep me completely analog), I can't use my sub. My speakers are too small to handle it all without a sub.
Catch my drift? I'm a little confused. Maybe I need to invest in a simple amp for stereo sources that will allow me to listen to the pure analog sound with a sub? I've had the 8001 for a while, and I like it a lot, but I'm just getting back into vinyl, but the way I'm understanding things here is that it's not a great receiver for that???

HELP!!!!!!!!

Yep Spectro, it must be the crack (from your later post). The Marantz has DACs to move your digital sources to an analog signal so that they can be amplified to drive your speakers. They are not going to employ ADCs to move your analog sources to digital, perform some manipulation, then feed DACs to go back to analog, to then amplify the signal to drive your speakers. Hook your phono pre-amp into the Marantz and enjoy. If you don't like the segregation of low frequency information you get for the sub, then by all means try hooking your speaker outputs through the sub's high-level crossover to see if that suits your taste more. The only way to know which sounds better in your system is to try both, but both should work. Although you don't have a separate input from a turntable for a sub, you told the Marantz during setup that the speakers were small and that you were using a sub. I suspect it will use analog crossovers to pull information below a certain frequency to send to the sub. When you try the sub's high-level crossover, you'll probably need to change your Marantz setup back to large in order to get a full-range signal from the speaker outputs so your sub's crossover will have something to work with.
post #2661 of 2839
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Originally Posted by cantskienuf View Post

Yep Spectro, it must be the crack (from your later post). Although you don't have a separate input from a turntable for a sub, you told the Marantz during setup that the speakers were small and that you were using a sub. I suspect it will use analog crossovers to pull information below a certain frequency to send to the sub. .


Thanks for the reply. By the way, I think I still have the stuff I'm on somewhere if you want to escape from reality for a while. I guess that would be the question I should have asked, do we know for sure if the crossover on the 8001 is analog?
post #2662 of 2839
Hello,

I have an Oppo BDP-83 Blu Ray player that decodes the new Dolby True HD and DTS-HD Master Audio as well as all the other surround modes. I also have a Carver 5 channel 125 watt per channel amp. I have 5 very good speakers along with a Carver Amazing Sunfire sub. I was considering purchasing the Marantz SR7001 to use as a prepro in my system. I was told by Marantz that if I didn't need the newest surround decoding, that this receiver was very similiar to the Marantz SR8002, and was better than many of Marantz's newest av receivers in terms of build quality and musical sound reproduction. Does anyone with experience with this receiver think this would be a good option for me or do you know of a better alternative for around $500? I can pick up a refurbished unit for $499 with a one year warranty. Also, would I connect my Blu Ray player to the 5.1 analog input and then the analog outputs to my Carver amp and operate the receiver in bypass mode? Thank you.
post #2663 of 2839
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Originally Posted by miccar View Post

Hello,

I have an Oppo BDP-83 Blu Ray player that decodes the new Dolby True HD and DTS-HD Master Audio as well as all the other surround modes. I also have a Carver 5 channel 125 watt per channel amp. I have 5 very good speakers along with a Carver Amazing Sunfire sub. I was considering purchasing the Marantz SR7001 to use as a prepro in my system. I was told by Marantz that if I didn't need the newest surround decoding, that this receiver was very similiar to the Marantz SR8002, and was better than many of Marantz's newest av receivers in terms of build quality and musical sound reproduction. Does anyone with experience with this receiver think this would be a good option for me or do you know of a better alternative for around $500? I can pick up a refurbished unit for $499 with a one year warranty. Also, would I connect my Blu Ray player to the 5.1 analog input and then the analog outputs to my Carver amp and operate the receiver in bypass mode? Thank you.

I would use the HDMI connection and then the DAC's in the Marantz will do the LPCM -> analogue conversion for amplification. It also means you can bitstream DSD from SACD's to the Marantz.

I have the SR8001 and am about to buy an Oppo BD player myself and this is what I will be doing.
post #2664 of 2839
Can you select 192 KHZ 7.1 LPCM on your Oppo? Or just 96 KHZ 7.1 LPCM?

Quote:
Originally Posted by djos View Post

I would use the HDMI connection and then the DAC's in the Marantz will do the LPCM -> analogue conversion for amplification. It also means you can bitstream DSD from SACD's to the Marantz.

I have the SR8001 and am about to buy an Oppo BD player myself and this is what I will be doing.
post #2665 of 2839
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Originally Posted by hotneutron View Post

Can you select 192 KHZ 7.1 LPCM on your Oppo? Or just 96 KHZ 7.1 LPCM?

I don't have mine yet, just about to pull the trigger and order mine.
post #2666 of 2839
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Originally Posted by cantskienuf View Post

Yep Spectro, it must be the crack (from your later post). The Marantz has DACs to move your digital sources to an analog signal so that they can be amplified to drive your speakers. They are not going to employ ADCs to move your analog sources to digital, perform some manipulation, then feed DACs to go back to analog, to then amplify the signal to drive your speakers.

I am under the impression that virtually all AVRs these days do their bass management in the digital domain, which means that for an analog source, you get a ADC -> DAC path happening. When the receiver is in pure direct mode, this is the what you are bypassing, the digital processing.

If you still want your sub to work in pure direct mode, I would suggest using the main L & R pre-out connection to your sub, and then dial in its crossover. This will let your main speakers still run in full range with their pure analog signal.

Mark

P.S. I just ordered a 7001 and am very excited!
post #2667 of 2839
Answer to my own question. Just got email from Marantz:
Quote:


Good Morning,

I apologize for the delayed response to your inquiry. For immediate assistance, please contact Marantz support at 201-762-6666 (Mon-Fri, 9 am to 7 pm est.)

This is correct, no Marantz receiver supports 192khz/7.1/LPCM at this time.

Thank you very much for your time.

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Originally Posted by hotneutron View Post

Can you select 192 KHZ 7.1 LPCM on your Oppo? Or just 96 KHZ 7.1 LPCM?
post #2668 of 2839
Quote:
Originally Posted by hotneutron View Post

Answer to my own question. Just got email from Marantz:


FWIW, you can select 192K on the Oppo. Your choices are 48, 96 or 192.
post #2669 of 2839
My BD390 can too, but it will not work (TV flashing).

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Originally Posted by hansangb View Post

FWIW, you can select 192K on the Oppo. Your choices are 48, 96 or 192.
post #2670 of 2839
Just picked up a refurbished 7001 at ac4less for $499. This could be the deal of the century. There is nothing this unit can't do, and it sounds awesome. You need bitstream decoding of DTS-MA and TrueHD? You don't! Just let your player do it!

I upgraded from an Onkyo TX-SR605 which is a piece of junk next to the Marantz. Sounds so much better. My ears are happy! But don't tell the Onkyo folks, as I need to sell my 605 on ebay!

Mark
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