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post #991 of 1183
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Originally Posted by skyehill View Post

You're done with a show that you say has always been "a cut above" after a bad episode?

Yes, I really am just that shallow and attention-deficit ridden.

It wasn't just this episode; it's really stopped working for me for a while but you hang on out of habit. This episode I really actively disliked, and yes, partly because I have always had expectations of this show. But I don't like to watch 'ordinary' sitcoms. This show, based on my last few samplings, has become ordinary.
post #992 of 1183
I still like this show. It has been sporadic, but there have been some good moments this year.

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Originally Posted by jandron View Post

Yes, I really am just that shallow and attention-deficit ridden.

It wasn't just this episode; it's really stopped working for me for a while but you hang on out of habit. This episode I really actively disliked, and yes, partly because I have always had expectations of this show. But I don't like to watch 'ordinary' sitcoms. This show, based on my last few samplings, has become ordinary.

What sitcoms do you actually watch?
post #993 of 1183
30 rock is still an amusing show and it's better with Tracey Jordan back.
post #994 of 1183
I loved the end when Jack/Alec explained why a movie actor should never do TV. I wonder if there was some personal truth in it, or just Alec being a great actor.
post #995 of 1183
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Originally Posted by skyehill View Post

I loved the end when Jack/Alec explained why a movie actor should never do TV. I wonder if there was some personal truth in it, or just Alec being a great actor.

Oh, I just assumed he was talking about himself. I guess I haven't researched everything he said, though.
post #996 of 1183
wow!

great episode. they're back in their groove with tracy back.
loved how he had to re-create the inside joke scene.

we are very privledged to have parks and rec and 30 rock
creating superb comedy writing contemporaneously.
post #997 of 1183
TV Review
How '30 Rock' rebounded its way to a strong season 5
By Alan Sepinwall, HitFix.com - May 4th, 2011

With a few exceptions (Liz taping the pilot for her failed talk show, Jenna dating James Franco), the fourth season of "30 Rock" was so dire that I came close to walking away from it altogether a few times, and was relieved the Emmys didn't rubber stamp another Outstanding Comedy Series win for the show.

But a very funny thing happened as the fifth season (which ends tomorrow night at 10) got going: "30 Rock" became good again. At times, close to its early greatness.

It's not as perfectly-executed as "Parks and Recreation" is right now, not as conceptually-ambitious as "Community" (and I didn't like its one big experiment, the live episode, very much), nor does it have the pathos of the Michael Scott farewell arc on "The Office" (which has had a weaker overall season than "30 Rock," but probably a more memorable one), but there have been weeks (particularly in the fall, before "Parks and Rec" came back) where "30 Rock" made me laugh longer, louder and more frequently than not only every other NBC sitcom, but every comedy on TV.

So what changed? Given the anything-for-a-yuk ethos of Tina Fey and company, it would be easy to say that the show just got funnier. But the changes go deeper than that, including:

The focus got tighter: "30 Rock" has a fairly large ensemble, particularly when you factor in characters like Grizz, Dotcom, Tofer and Lutz who aren't in the opening credits but appear almost every week, not to mention frequently recurring characters like Dr. Spaceman, Danny and whoever Jack's corporate boss is at the time. Yet there's a clear separation between Liz, Jack and Tracy and almost everyone else, and the writing of season 5 seemed to acknowledge that. The show leaned more heavily on the Jack/Liz friendship than ever, made Tracy more prominent with his quest to win an Oscar, and was much more sparing in its use of Jenna (who has her uses but is very one-note), Kenneth (whose comedic value was largely exhausted a couple of seasons ago) and the "TGS" writers (where Scott Adsit's Pete is the only one seemingly able to carry his own unfortunately rare storylines).

Not surprisingly, the season's weakest stretch came when Tracy Morgan had to take a medical leave of absence and the show had to go further down the bench. (Earlier in the year, a few of my readers had been lamenting the lack of time spent with the writing staff; after a few of the Tracy-less episodes, most of them seemed to understand it was probably for the best.)

If Baldwin ever carries out his threat to leave the show (if not show business itself) after his contract expires, this could be a huge problem, but right now, the top-heavy approach is working very well.

Less schadenfreude for Liz: Liz Lemon's struggle to find both personal and professional fulfillment - preferably at the same time - is one of the key themes of "30 Rock," but there were times the last couple of seasons where Fey and the other writers seemed to take so much pleasure from rubbing Liz's face in her own misery that it became unpleasant to watch.

Liz spent much of this year in a long-distance relationship with airline pilot Carol (played by game-for-anything Matt Damon), which was a genius move. It gave Liz back just enough dignity that she wasn't a pathetic caricature, and it allowed her a relatively happy, stable personal life for a while without actually requiring we spend much time with her and her boyfriend. After all, for as much as Liz wants a man of her own, the most important relationship in her life from a "30 Rock" perspective is with Jack Donaghy.

And speaking of which, the show did some good work showing how that friendship has evolved after five years, doing episodes where Liz and Jack were forced either by circumstance or their own neuroses to spend time apart and then reunite. In general, "30 Rock" isn't a show that takes its characters or its emotions seriously, but it usually invests the Jack/Liz friendship with much more gravity than anything else, and Fey and Baldwin had some very strong, warm moments together this year.

Smarter use of guest stars: "30 Rock" seemed to be drowning in high-profile guest stars in seasons 3 and 4. I haven't done the math to compare the total number of guest stars from season 5 to the two previous years - and wouldn't be surprised, in fact, if the total was roughly the same or even greater. But where in previous years, episodes often felt like they were being driven by the presence of big names like Steve Martin, Jennifer Aniston or Julianne Moore, this season the guest stars largely felt like part of the show. It helped that most of them were familiar faces like Jon Hamm (Liz's pretty but dum ex), Alan Alda (Jack's liberal biological father) or Elizabeth Banks (Jack's conservative pundit wife). And when the guests were new, they were either well-integrated for the long haul (Ken Howard as the folksy head of Kabletown) or deployed so hilariously (John Slattery as a woefully-unqualified political candidate) that it didn't matter how much of an episode was being given over to them.

It was funnier: Okay, maybe it really is that simple.

30 ROCK
Season Finale Thursday night at 10PM ET/PT on NBC.


http://www.hitfix.com/blogs/whats-al...trong-season-5
post #998 of 1183
+1
post #999 of 1183
i loved elizabeth banks hooking up with kim jong il.
post #1000 of 1183
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Originally Posted by mr. wally View Post

i loved elizabeth banks hooking up with kim jong il.

I loved that they had a woman playing KJ
post #1001 of 1183
Much like Parks and Rec last season, 30 Rock is getting bumped off the schedule for the first half of the year, coming back as a mid-season replacement. Apparently due to Tina's pregnancy.
post #1002 of 1183
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Originally Posted by sirjonsnow View Post

I loved that they had a woman playing KJ

Margaret Cho
post #1003 of 1183
TV Notes
New 'Office' Boss Won't Be Revealed Until Next Season
By John Sellers, TheWrap.com - May 16th, 2011

Fans of "The Office" will have to wait until next season to find out who'll be riding herd at Dunder Mifflin.

"There will definitely be a new boss in 'The Office' come fall, but we won't be revealing that until after the season," Bob Greenblatt, NBC's freshly minted entertainment president, said during the network's upfront presentation at the Hilton Hotel in mid-town Manhattan on Monday.

The upcoming finale features James Spader, Ray Romano and Ricky Gervais, but it won't revealed yet if they'll be stepping into Steve Carell's shoes until the fall.

In other Thursday night comedy block news, "30 Rock" may be getting pushed to mid-season, because of Tina Fey's pregnancy. However, that doesn't mean fans of the sitcom will have to suffer through an abbreviated season.

The show is being picked for a full 22 episodes, Greenblatt said.


Greenblatt also revealed the network's contingency plans if the NFL lockout drags into the fall. The network executive said NBC would air "larger than life" game shoes in lieu of "Sunday Night Football."

http://www.thewrap.com/tv/column-pos...t-season-27436
post #1004 of 1183
Given the success of The Voice, and the complete utter failure of pretty much everything else, NBC should just ready another season of The Voice to run on Sunday if the NFL is gone.
post #1005 of 1183
so does the show finally return this thursday?
post #1006 of 1183
Was it really easier posting that question here in two different threads rather than just going to NBC.com and finding out yourself?
post #1007 of 1183
January 12th.
post #1008 of 1183
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Originally Posted by Demolition Man View Post

January 12th.

thanks for info. why go to network sites and have to wade through ads and pop ups when we have such a knowledgeable member base.
post #1009 of 1183
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Originally Posted by vfxproducer View Post

Was it really easier posting that question here in two different threads rather than just going to NBC.com and finding out yourself?

well i was also providing a service by reawakening this thread that has been dormant since may.
post #1010 of 1183
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Originally Posted by mr. wally View Post

thanks for info. why go to network sites and have to wade through ads and pop ups when we have such a knowledgeable member base.

Or you could just hit up Google to get that info... like I did.
post #1011 of 1183
I think the whole point was that he wanted someone else to do it for him. Sometimes you just want t feel loved
post #1012 of 1183
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Originally Posted by lovswr View Post

I think the whole point was that he wanted someone else to do it for him. Sometimes you just want t feel loved

that's right. i just want to feel loved.

and i am very happy that 30 rock will soon be back.
post #1013 of 1183
wow, great to have this back

that might have been the funniest hour of tv i've ever watched with last nights 30 rock and parks and rec back to back.

nbc has pure gold here if anyone would bother to watch. it's their loss as sitcoms this funny don't come around very often.
post #1014 of 1183
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Originally Posted by mr. wally View Post

wow, great to have this back

that might have been the funniest hour of tv i've ever watched with last nights 30 rock and parks and rec back to back.

nbc has pure gold here if anyone would bother to watch. it's their loss as sitcoms this funny don't come around very often.

Jack's pained reactions to Jenna were awesome. Loved having the show back.
post #1015 of 1183
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Originally Posted by skyehill View Post

Jack's pained reactions to Jenna were awesome. Loved having the show back.

Jane Krakowski is scary talented. She is consistently hilarious on 30 Rock and last night was a prime example.
post #1016 of 1183
Ouch, that was not very good. Got a little better towards the end, but I can't think of an ep I liked less. When did filming for this season start? Tina Fey had her baby in August, but she did not look well.
post #1017 of 1183
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Originally Posted by sirjonsnow View Post

Ouch, that was not very good. Got a little better towards the end, but I can't think of an ep I liked less. When did filming for this season start? Tina Fey had her baby in August, but she did not look well.

There's been many episodes not of last night's quality.

Tina looked to be in good shape on Letterman last week, so this must have been shot months ago.
post #1018 of 1183
I've noticed after she gave birth, she looks older and is starting to resemble her friend Rachel Dratch...
post #1019 of 1183
I didn't think this episode was that funny. Jenna was funny insulting the kids, but I thought the rest was just bland.
post #1020 of 1183
this whole jack in liz's head thing is kinda weird and not that funny.

as always, it did have some funny throwaway lines.
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