Originally Posted by Spezzy
The drivers look like 13W7s.. They are different though right? They look slightly different atleast.
Looking at the thread makes me wonder.. Should I wait for a F113 or get the PB12+/2? My room is extremely small..8-9 feet wide and a 8 foot ceiling, 15 feet long maybe. I really want 2 F113s though..
Couldn't you get 2 Plus/2s for the price of one F113?
Yes, it is all about tradeoffs ... The Fathom 113 will sound better, and be more visceral, in your room, than dual Plus/2's... because both will deliver all the SPL you need, but the Fathom will do it deeper, and with a much more realistic presense.
There are 2 schools of thought on this.
One "school of thought" says measurements are all one needs to determine performance.
The other says that careful listening tests are required.
I know from my blind tests so far that there is a VERY large difference between the 112/113 and the Plus/2.
The JL offerings are better sounding in every way, to my ears.
However, It would take 2 of the 113's to give me everything I need (in a 4500^3 foot room) for unrestricted bass response from JL Audio ... Figure a $5000 street price.
From SVS, It would take dual Plus/2's ... in Piano Black we are looking at appx. $2700 delivered, plus something for EQ purposes ... Call it $3000-$3300.
I would gladly pay the $2000 difference.
However, It is also easy to see this is a premium product, and not everyone will agree that it is worth the extra $$$$ for exemplary SQ, easy to manage size, and even easier to manage room interaction.
Using a car analogy, If the Plus/2 is a Mustang GT, the Fathoms are a Porsche 911. On paper, they are not that far apart in performance. For the $60,000 extra in price, the 911 is marginally faster than a GT.
You have to drive the 2 cars ... suddenly the superior feel of the 911 wins out.