well said nhtfred. Myself, I have beyond a shadow of a doubt these subs are the real deal for music. I was going to settle on a $2000ish CAD sub myself - now im thinking about waiting and saving more for something like the f113. Someone on the klipsch forums who ive talked to for several years now and who is a sub nut... (has 24 subs in his home) had this to say about it in his initial impression comparing it to the RT12-d flagship from klipsch and the Seismic 12.:
"Next the f113 came,it is capable all the way to 20hz and will shake the room when need be like these two cannot even paired! The W7 woofer can move a damn lot of air.Its excursion looks to be twice of the Klipsch and Paradigm(this could be just the impression mind you). The thing is this sub disapears leaving no signature,it simply fills fills to below human hearing with authority and finesse. AMAZING!
I trust my ears,and they tell me the JL f113 is a direct contender for the Velodyne HGS/DD 15 and 18! There is no other way around this,it is the finest compact sub made.
The Rocket and SVS micro subs are pure jokes,just look at each aspect,from woofer,to amp,to audio EQ to cabinet integrity to parts quality and simply equisite attention to detail.It beats the other small subs where it counts.Expensive,you bet worth each penny.
Note it is in no way fair to compare subwoofers prices several times less.I am giving my impressions about the subs not based on price.The Fathom and Ghotam subs are as good as it gets they compare directly with Aerial,Wilson and the elite of the super high end for built quality.As good as it gets,for only $3000,a bargain.Superb and I recommend them to anyone who has invested BIG in upscale monitors or mains.S&V is targeted at the mid fier just read their reviews...SPL SPL SPL...wow tells alot about quality.Another Setero Review type mag.When I run out of toilet paper I will buy S&V.
And later he went on to add this:
"The JL f133,simply a killer compact(yes it is very compact)subwoofer,at 130lbs for such a smallish cabinet it is one solid chunk.I tell ya people I will post pics of subs and take higher rez pics of the JL f113 so you can see its beauty(it is a product to behold),quality is a few classes above both the Seismic 12 and the RT-12t(and those two are not what I would call cheapies).
The only(ONLY)subwoofer I own that matches the overall quality is the Aerial SW12,a bit larger,weighs about the same.This time vented,dare I say underported(and tuned quite low).I will have to make an A/B test here too. Velodyne's HGS/DD subs are not up to the same level of parts quality,not even close!! And they range up to $5000,taking the DD12 it retails no less than the f113.So you get the picture.
I simply cannot stress enough,JL Audio has a real jewel of a sub here,both on paper and in use,as well as...static display.Total package you do not see often."
I'm hopeing he will make an appearance and share some more thoughts on the JL, his knowledge and experience with high end subs/equip is quite extensive.
If I remember correctly hes owned just about every line of Klipsch,Sunfire, Revel b15,aerial sw12,most of the expensive velos, dynaudio, Rel etc
Obviously take everything with a grain of salt, but when he compares it to the Aerial sw12 for quality, you know the Fathom113 isn't your regular run of the mill overpriced fancy sealed compact sub.
The responses and reviews on this product so far are extremely positive. I hope JL gets something up and running for Vancouver BC canada... Also Manville maybe you can investigate a bit for me... So far JL has been extremely slow with replying to my emails, kind of disapointing when you have a video on your website saying how important the customers are to the company.