Originally Posted by drummermitchell
I feel for you as I had four JL F-113's about a year ago(bought used)so no warranty.
Jl wanted a grand to have me ship from Alberta to them.
And as luck would have it one JL I couldn't bring the vol up past a whisper and she finally gave up,another just stopped completely.
Not impressed at all either.
On the bright side I got to audition a different sub at one of my audio stores.
I couldn't see what he had in there as he wanted me to here this bluray concert (Jeff Beck's)live at Ronnie Scott's).
I was blown away be how real the sound was,it was almost like being in that club.
I've never heard drums sound like drums as I did on that afternoon.
The dealer was demoing the 1812 sub(he had acquired quite a few of them.
He showed me what sub it was and I haven't heard anything like that anywhere,my lat two JL's sound like car audio subs,a major difference.
IHe gave me a copy of that disc to try out at home,I did and it totally sucked with the Jl's.
When I had called him,I had said it was probably the size of my small room compared to his which was three times the size.
His response was,it doesn't matter the size of the room.
I asked if it was possible to do a home audition(3hr)drive round trip.
We'll he brought the sub up on Sunday,set her up midway in my 12X19X7 room,put the disc in and played the track I demoed,within 5 seconds I yelled out that's it,that's the sound.
Couldn't believe I could get that type of superb bottom end in my room.
The 1812 has been here since and she's not going anywhere,the JL's where gone the day after the 1812 showed me what superb bottom end should sound like,LOL,plus the dealer gave me a lifetime warranty to boot.
Even though I was pissed with JL's subs crapping out I would never have gotten to audition the 1812.
It was worth losing out on the four JL's as I got a major upgrade musically with the 1812.
I had thought the Jl's were good,but nothing I have heard compares to this if you can find one anymore as they are that good.
They were pricey in the day and they are big,plus they are around 300lbs.
Obviously I'd never buy a JL even if it was new,as until I auditioned the Velodyne,I didn't have a clue what I was missing,end of story:D.