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Does anyone have an opinion on the new Hitachi 37HLX99?

post #1 of 65
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I was in Gramophone yesterday and I noticed they had in the new Hitachi 37HLX99. I was really impressed with its picture quality and feature set. I don't fully understand the 120hz technology but supposedly it helps with motion blurring.?. The only thing I didn't like was its premium price for a 37 inch LCD television. Also it only supports 768p but I don't think it would make much of a difference on the 37' television. I'm not really an expert with HDTV's so I would like to hear other people's opinion of this television.
post #2 of 65
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Anyone else see this TV?
post #3 of 65
This picture quality on this is one of the best I've seen. I've set up a couple on the last two weeks and the customers absolutly love them. 1080p isn't really an advantage for a tv of this size. I wouldn't worry about the that. If you have the means, I suggest you consider it.
post #4 of 65
I just saw one this evening at the Palo Alto, CA, Magnolia HiFi. The PQ looked very good to me. I thought it was the best of the LCDs on display. A close second was the Sony XBR3. If I hadn't just bought the JVC LT-37X987, I would probably go with the Hitachi instead. I'm dissapointed with the limited color adjustments on the JVC and the Hitachi claims to have complete color adjustments (although I haven't seen the menu options). They just put this panel up today so they didn't have a price on it.
post #5 of 65
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Originally Posted by CosmoGeek View Post

I just saw one this evening at the Palo Alto, CA, Magnolia HiFi. The PQ looked very good to me. I thought it was the best of the LCDs on display. A close second was the Sony XBR3. If I hadn't just bought the JVC LT-37X987, I would probably go with the Hitachi instead. I'm dissapointed with the limited color adjustments on the JVC and the Hitachi claims to have complete color adjustments (although I haven't seen the menu options). They just put this panel up today so they didn't have a price on it.

Thanks for the feedback. I'm really interested in purchasing this TV but I'm waiting to hear some reviews on it. The current msrp is $2199.00 and that's more than I'm willing to pay for a 37" LCD. I think it's a great looking tv and loaded with features. It also seems to be one of the few high end 37" HDTV's on the market.
post #6 of 65
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Originally Posted by charliebird View Post

Thanks for the feedback. I'm really interested in purchasing this TV but I'm waiting to hear some reviews on it. The current msrp is $2199.00 and that's more than I'm willing to pay for a 37" LCD. I think it's a great looking tv and loaded with features. It also seems to be one of the few high end 37" HDTV's on the market.


I own this TV. I am not in a position to provide a review. One of the things I liked about this TV is that you can search here for it and find nothing. Every other TV has pages of negative comments I thought about starting an owner's thread, but that would just attract trouble.

I am still working to mount it on my bedroom wall. I had to replace some drywall with plywood. After I finish maybe I will post some pictures.

Don
post #7 of 65
My local Magnolia store has had them for about a month and the salesman said it has become one of their best sellers in its class.

Very good picture with lots of feature content. Even has an electric swivel base controlled from the remote.

I expect to have one in my home by next weekend.

Pat
post #8 of 65
I saw one at my local BB and it was sitting next to Samsung and Sony 1080p LCD's. I thought the display looked great. I really want to buy one, but I plan on getting a Sony Playstation 3 and wonder if I should be looking at the 1080p LCD's instead.

Otherwise, I really want the Hitachi. The 37" LCD fits my needs. My only other choices in a 1080p 37" category is the Sharp and Mits models. I could go 40", but would prefer to stay with a smaller screen since viewing distance will be approx. 10ft.
post #9 of 65
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Originally Posted by jarjarchewy View Post

I saw one at my local BB and it was sitting next to Samsung and Sony 1080p LCD's. I thought the display looked great. I really want to buy one, but I plan on getting a Sony Playstation 3 and wonder if I should be looking at the 1080p LCD's instead.

Otherwise, I really want the Hitachi. The 37" LCD fits my needs. My only other choices in a 1080p 37" category is the Sharp and Mits models. I could go 40", but would prefer to stay with a smaller screen since viewing distance will be approx. 10ft.

I'm in the same boat as you are. I spent an hour last weekend comparing the Sharp 37d90 with the Hitachi. I felt the Hitachi had a brighter, more colorful picture. I also thought camera panning was smoother on the Hitachi. The Sharp's picture looked sort of washed out but sharper looking. I can't say that one was definitely better then the other. I haven't seen the Mits yet but I image it's similar to the Sharp.
post #10 of 65
If anyone is interested, I have the Hitachi available. PM me for AVS club member price.
post #11 of 65
Hello I am new to this forum but have recently ordered a Hitachi 37hlx99[EDIT]. I have compared it to the Sharp lc37d90u and think it has a brighter and more colorful picture. I brought in some black & white movies,King Kong & Casablanca and they looked outstanding on the set. I like the fact that there are numerous manual adjustments to the different picture setting.

I will post more of my review when it is delivered and I have a chance to calibrate it properly. I have also asked Santa for a new OPPO 970 Dvd player.
More come ,Thanks
post #12 of 65
That will be great to hear from someone that has one. I haven't yet bit the bullet and purchased anything yet. I still keep thinking I need to get something in 1080p since I plan on keeping mine for a long time. However, every time I look at something, I keep thinking about the Hitachi and how I really liked the look of it.
post #13 of 65
Hi, I am sorry about speaking of the price,it won't happen again.
I will post any of my thoughts about the Hitachi 37hlx99. I really don't think 1080p on a screen of 37 inches makes much difference unless you are sitting right up on the screen.
My primary reason for selecting this model has more to do with movie(film) and fast action such as sports. The icing on the cake is the powered swivel base!
It also comes with a 2 year parts and labor warrenty!
post #14 of 65
Saw this set yesterday and like others was quite impressed. I brought in my own DVD for a trial and it was quite good (the stores' hookup was via component so I'm sure it would be considerably better at home). This was an apples to apples comparison as all systems were connected to the same DVD player. The 3 screens I could see simultanously were a the Hitachi LCD, a Hitachi 42" plasma and THE Pioneer Elite (42'). Two screens in anoother room with the same feed were the Sharp LC37D90U and the Sony 40" XBR2". Surprisingly (to me), the Sony had the worst picture (I own an XBR1). The Sharp was pretty good and Hitachi had the best LCD.

The colour control seems quite good. I spent some time with the user controls on the Hitachi plasma some time back and the LCD appears to have the same CMS system.

My only caveat is the single RF input.
post #15 of 65
I've had mine for a couple days now but my Comcast guy can't bring in the HD signal till the end of the month; too busy.

So far I really like it. I wanted 1080P but don't think it necessary on a set this size. It had the best picture at Magnolia where I bought it. They have a Direct TV feed in store.

After I get my HD signal I will adjust everything and report back.

Pat
post #16 of 65
The one big thing about this set is that it is a 120hz set. BUT..


what are the specs. I know on the lower end model I got these specs:

Hitachi 37HDL52 37" - 1366 x 768-pixel resolution; 3000:1 contrast ratio; 170-degree viewing angle; 8ms response time.

What about the 37HLX99?

This set is supposed to look better but Sony has 7000:1 in their XBR series and even the V2500 I think is 5000:1. The Sharp LC-37D90U has 176 viewing angle and people say it looks washed out. Sony has 178. The Mitsubishi 37" is 1080P.. So is 120hz worth giving up contrast, viewing angle, and 1080P?


Anyone with the true specs? Also I noticed the MSRP price came down recently. BB reflects this in their new retail price.
post #17 of 65
Does it do a good job of handling SD? Comparison to your previous CRT set maybe? What about SD stretch to widescreen. Can it do it without the "fat" look.


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Originally Posted by Pat C. View Post

I've had mine for a couple days now but my Comcast guy can't bring in the HD signal till the end of the month; too busy.

So far I really like it. I wanted 1080P but don't think it necessary on a set this size. It had the best picture at Magnolia where I bought it. They have a Direct TV feed in store.

After I get my HD signal I will adjust everything and report back.

Pat
post #18 of 65
Hello,
All I know is what I see and the 37hlx99 had better color,contrast and viewing of fast action the either the Sharp lc37d90u or the Sony Xbrs that I looked at. The viewing angles seemed better too. The Hitachi also has a better tuner than those other sets in that changing channels it is quicker and it works better with weaker signals.Check the Hitachi site out for more specific facts about the set.The set also has 4HD Aspect Modes and 6 SD Aspect Modes plus all kinds of manual modes for color,color temps and ever black & white color temps.
post #19 of 65
no offense to anyone here, but paying anything close to 2k$ for a 37" NON-1080p set(yes, i know, at 37" it probably doesn't matter), with other documented LIMITATIONS that other sets DON"T have, based ONLY(or mainly) on the 120hz factor(most are 60hz i think)is naive at the minimum.

the ONLY reason it is selling for 2k$ is because it is one of only TWO 120hz 37" sets on the market(that will change soon). when the price is down to 1400-1500$, then if you REALLY think 120hz is a deciding factor, have at it! otherwise, you can just about buy the sharp or jvc 37" PLUS an hd/dvd; or almost TWO westy 37w3 sets for the same amount of money! just my 2cts. jeroldd
post #20 of 65
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Originally Posted by jeroldd View Post

no offense to anyone here, but paying anything close to 2k$ for a 37" NON-1080p set(yes, i know, at 37" it probably doesn't matter), with other documented LIMITATIONS that other sets DON"T have, based ONLY(or mainly) on the 120hz factor(most are 60hz i think)is naive at the minimum.

the ONLY reason it is selling for 2k$ is because it is one of only TWO 120hz 37" sets on the market(that will change soon). when the price is down to 1400-1500$, then if you REALLY think 120hz is a deciding factor, have at it! otherwise, you can just about buy the sharp or jvc 37" PLUS an hd/dvd; or almost TWO westy 37w3 sets for the same amount of money! just my 2cts. jeroldd

I agree with your general statement about the Hitachi being overpriced but I don't think the Sharp or JVC are alternatives as they don't come close to the Hitachi in terms of PQ. Yesterday was crunch day and it came down to the 37HLX99 and the Panasonic 37PX60U. On pure PQ, the Panasonic won as much as I liked the Hitachi colour management, the pannasonic produced great colour out of the box. The bottom line was the Panasonic was $500 cheaper. At home, the panny is far better than I expected and makes my XBR1 and the Sharp 37D90U I returned look like sub $1000 sets.

I couldn't go for the Hitachi as much as wanted an LCD due to lack of information and price.
post #21 of 65
Hello,
The price on the 37hlx99 has dropped substantually,and is now closer to $1.5k. I know that I got a great deal on it. I didn't buy it from a big box store.
Thanks
post #22 of 65
I made a special trip to see the Hitachi at the Magnolia section of BB. The Panasonic was turned off for some reason and right next to the Hitachi but I am not in the market for Plasma. The Hitatchi grabbed my attention because it has 120hz. I did see a Samsung 720P on the Main floor running clips from a BlueRay player. It was like 1080P who? Incredible image quality. I checked with a rep if they could order the Sharp 37" LC-37D90U and it came up in the computer but they could no longer order it. Whats up Sharp? Your only 1080P 37" is not available in the big box stores anymore?

I wonder if we are all hyping ourselves over 1080P and in reality watching only SD programming. I'm into future proofing to and I just to walk into a store and buy a TV that looks better than what I watch today which is SD and not feed into a marketing hype of unfinished products and standard that will change tomorrow.

Anyways.... the Hitachi. In my image view there was the Hitachi, Panasonic Plasma (turned off) and the XBR3 46" on the same row. From a distance of 6-8 feet the Hitachi seemed more crisp and detailed than the XBR3 which had a very blurred overcast on everything displayed. The one note was that the XBR3 produced more realistic color. Everything I did to adjust the Hitachi did not come to close to the Sony. I noted that the Hitachi has a very high white balance in combination with the Contrast. Their picture modes for Day and Night didn't help the situation either. I could see where it would be helpful at night since I don't want high contrast images blarring at me in the middle of the night giving me headaches.

After tweaking the Sony mind you it was the large 46" 1080P model comparing to a 37" 768P, I turned DCR off and a few other blurry producing features. The Sharpness of the Sony then shined through or at least a good compromise. However the Hitachi was uncompromising showing every grain of the Discovery HD broadcast which was the prime cause for its grainyness. Also the feeds were on the component input side. It seemed that the Hitachi has no way to combat bad broadcast or at least that I could tell from the settings and what was being displayed. At a distance of 7+ feet, this did allow for perceived additional image detail as compared to the Sony. I also noted from scenes with heavy black levels that the Hitachi could go completely black and I had to adjust it to be able to see the shadow details up to that of the Sony and I back off of it to make the scene/shadow detail dark.

The Hitachi did a good job of displaying color but some colors were very bright like red and blue which led to an unnatural appears at times. For example if someone was wearing a red t-shirt it would appear almost neon red. I tried to adjust for this which there was red adjustments. I guess I should have put it on 50 since 75 percent wasn't enough to compensate to match the Sony. The Sony XBR had very natual colors in comparison.

I did catch some macroblocking on one scene and it was very quick and I happened to be within 3 feet of the screen from the Hitachi even with its 120hz. This leads me to believe that until we see Micronas in action on the upcoming Sharp displays, that no one out there right now is able to effectively handle it even the Sony XBR's.

Conclusion, if you were going to sit at a distance of 7-8 feet, the Hitachi was one of the best smaller displays they had (without tweaking) in the Magnolia section for PQ using its "Day-Automatic" mode. The Hitachi allowed the detail to come through which did allow you to perceive it had a higher resolution but within 3-4 feet the story began to change which is a concern for any SD content. I thought the Pioneer and other plasmas seemed washed out in contrast and some cases color. Now outside of this, the Samsung 1080P on the main floor running a Blue Ray feed was also outstanding.

What I need is a store that shows regular SD channels on all their sets and then we could see which one truley performed. With all this attention to 720P and 1080P you would think that Analog was dead now and not in 2009+ which even then will probably just be upconverted broadcasts. The truth being I only get what 10+? channels of HD from Comast. Best Buy does have a no questions return policy under 30 days, I'm very tempted to become like most people and bring it home and see what happens.

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Originally Posted by nornet View Post

I agree with your general statement about the Hitachi being overpriced but I don't think the Sharp or JVC are alternatives as they don't come close to the Hitachi in terms of PQ. Yesterday was crunch day and it came down to the 37HLX99 and the Panasonic 37PX60U. On pure PQ, the Panasonic won as much as I liked the Hitachi colour management, the pannasonic produced great colour out of the box. The bottom line was the Panasonic was $500 cheaper. At home, the panny is far better than I expected and makes my XBR1 and the Sharp 37D90U I returned look like sub $1000 sets.

I couldn't go for the Hitachi as much as wanted an LCD due to lack of information and price.
post #23 of 65
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Originally Posted by KevinJ View Post

I made a special trip to see the Hitachi at the Magnolia section of BB. The Panasonic was turned off for some reason and right next to the Hitachi but I am not in the market for Plasma. The Hitatchi grabbed my attention because it has 120hz. I did see a Samsung 720P on the Main floor running clips from a BlueRay player. It was like 1080P who? Incredible image quality. I checked with a rep if they could order the Sharp 37" LC-37D90U and it came up in the computer but they could no longer order it. Whats up Sharp? Your only 1080P 37" is not available in the big box stores anymore?

Best Buy does have a no questions return policy under 30 days, I'm very tempted to become like most people and bring it home and see what happens.

If colour is your primary concern, don't look past plasma. It took me 5 months to realize this. LCDs cannot cut it in the black levels yet no matter who says differently. Gamming is another issue and far more complex and one that I have no background or knowledge about. HOWEVER, having said that, I would be very tempted to get the Hitachi if your 30 day return privileges were available to me. Unfortunately, only high end dealers sell this set in Toronto with no return privileges. I called Hitachi (Canada) for a list of dealers and was told they only manufactured plasma and rear projection TVs.
post #24 of 65
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Originally Posted by KevinJ View Post

The one big thing about this set is that it is a 120hz set. BUT..


what are the specs. I know on the lower end model I got these specs:

Hitachi 37HDL52 37" - 1366 x 768-pixel resolution; 3000:1 contrast ratio; 170-degree viewing angle; 8ms response time.

What about the 37HLX99?

This set is supposed to look better but Sony has 7000:1 in their XBR series and even the V2500 I think is 5000:1. The Sharp LC-37D90U has 176 viewing angle and people say it looks washed out. Sony has 178. The Mitsubishi 37" is 1080P.. So is 120hz worth giving up contrast, viewing angle, and 1080P?


Anyone with the true specs? Also I noticed the MSRP price came down recently. BB reflects this in their new retail price.

First off, I think the specifications that manufactures provide are worthless. They're not independently verified or standardized. I've narrowed down my choices down to either the Hitachi 37hlx99 or the Mitsubishi LT-37131. In my mind it's 1080P verses 120hz. I don't think I'll be able to see better picture detail at a 8' distance with 1080P but I like the fact it can do 1:1 mapping with 1080P sources and no scaling is a good thing. On the other hand a 120hz refresh rate really smooths out the picture in my opinion. I found this link on another AVS Forum thread that explains the benefits of 120hz.
http://news.com.com/Taking+the+blur+...ht&tag=nl.e703

11.24.06
I have an update. I was at Best Buy today and they were showing a hockey game in the Magnolia section. All I can say is that the Hitachi 37hlx99 really shined. It was next to a Sony XBR3 and Samsung 4695 and it blew them away. They both had problems with jutter and ghosting. I didn't notice either problem on the Hitachi.
post #25 of 65
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Originally Posted by charliebird View Post

First off, I think the specifications that manufactures provide are worthless. They're not independently verified or standardized. I've narrowed down my choices down to either the Hitachi 37hlx99 or the Mitsubishi LT-37131. In my mind it's 1080P verses 120hz. I don't think I'll be able to see better picture detail at a 8' distance with 1080P but I like the fact it can do 1:1 mapping with 1080P sources and no scaling is a good thing. On the other hand a 120hz refresh rate really smooths out the picture in my opinion. I found this link on another AVS Forum thread that explains the benefits of 120hz.
http://news.com.com/Taking+the+blur+...ht&tag=nl.e703

11.24.06
I have an update. I was at Best Buy today and they were showing a hockey game in the Magnolia section. All I can say is that the Hitachi 37hlx99 really shined. It was next to a Sony XBR3 and Samsung 4695 and it blew them away. They both problems with jutter and ghosting. I didn't notice either problem on the Hitachi.

Hello,

Your statement about the 37hlx99 is true and that is why I ordered it and expect to have it by Tues. The price has dropped to close to $1.5K & I will let you know how it tests in a home environment.
Thanks
post #26 of 65
Just curious about who else sells this set.


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Originally Posted by jay_egg View Post

Hello,

Your statement about the 37hlx99 is true and that is why I ordered it and expect to have it by Tues. The price has dropped to close to $1.5K & I will let you know how it tests in a home environment.
Thanks
post #27 of 65
You might want to check Walts.com.
post #28 of 65
I saw this set at Magnolia/Best Buy yesterday. I want my GF to get it and she loved it, but now she thinks she wants a bigger screen size. I love that woman.
post #29 of 65
Has anyone seen or bought this tv from anywhere besides bb. I can find it anywhere else thanks
post #30 of 65
I saw it at Magnolia HiFi in Palo Alto, CA.
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