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post #11461 of 15593
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Originally Posted by Cvetan1 View Post

You do not need any Y adapters. You can daisy chain off each sub amp. There is a line out on the plate amp, just add another sub cable, thats it.

I was told before not to do that, but you're saying i could run four subs in this configuration? Anyone else know of this?
post #11462 of 15593
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Originally Posted by teckademic View Post

I was told before not to do that, but you're saying i could run four subs in this configuration? Anyone else know of this?

As long as the subs have a pre-amp output, you can daisy chain them. Electrically it's the equivalent of connecting via Y adapters and saves on components if your layout makes this practical.

What is your planned layout? Four corners, four sides, two stacked pairs, a stack of four, opposing high-low corners, ...
post #11463 of 15593

when i got my 2 subs, at first i connected them in parallel (Y splitter), and a few months later, i daisy chained them.

Nothing changed in the sound, either way, it's the same.

post #11464 of 15593
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Originally Posted by AJCxZ0 View Post

As long as the subs have a pre-amp output, you can daisy chain them. Electrically it's the equivalent of connecting via Y adapters and saves on components if your layout makes this practical.

What is your planned layout? Four corners, four sides, two stacked pairs, a stack of four, opposing high-low corners, ...

Im shooting for four corners with pb1000s or i was thinking 2 front corners and the other two behind the couch. I recently changed my layout to one in the front corner and the other behind the couch out of phase and the bass response is a lot better than having one in each corner, plus the tactical impact on the couch is amazing.
post #11465 of 15593
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Originally Posted by basshead81 View Post

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Will 4 of that be more powerful than a single JTR Orbit Shifter?
post #11466 of 15593
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Originally Posted by Skylinestar View Post

Will 4 of that be more powerful than a single JTR Orbit Shifter?
Power is a secondary concern. One sub cannot smooth room modes. Four subs can smooth room modes to the extent that they're for all intents and purposes eliminated.
post #11467 of 15593
Hi all, I just bought a second hand SVS 20-39. I've never had one of these before so a little advice would be helpful. I've filled two of the top holes with bungs and set to 16hz. Is this advisable? Also, the guy I bought the sub from from had sub's crossover set at 80hz but I've set it to the off position. Which is the correct setting? BTW, I've run ARC on my Anthem and the base sounds great - a step up from my previous BK XLS200.
post #11468 of 15593
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Originally Posted by Canary_Jules View Post

Hi all, I just bought a second hand SVS 20-39. I've never had one of these before so a little advice would be helpful. I've filled two of the top holes with bungs and set to 16hz. Is this advisable? Also, the guy I bought the sub from from had sub's crossover set at 80hz but I've set it to the off position. Which is the correct setting? BTW, I've run ARC on my Anthem and the base sounds great - a step up from my previous BK XLS200.

I'm not familiar with the SVS 20-39 but if it comes with foam plugs and you can set the tuning to 16 Hz on the amp, then it's pretty much the way to go. 20 Hz tuning provides max output, but the trade-off of max output for a bit more extension is actually quite popular. I'm running in 16 Hz tuning myself. As for the sub's crossover, yes, you should disable it if you're managing bass on your AVR, which you're probably doing with the Anthem. And finally, if the bass sounds great, you're probably doing it right. Enjoy!
post #11469 of 15593
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Originally Posted by neutro View Post

I'm not familiar with the SVS 20-39 but if it comes with foam plugs and you can set the tuning to 16 Hz on the amp, then it's pretty much the way to go. 20 Hz tuning provides max output, but the trade-off of max output for a bit more extension is actually quite popular. I'm running in 16 Hz tuning myself. As for the sub's crossover, yes, you should disable it if you're managing bass on your AVR, which you're probably doing with the Anthem. And finally, if the bass sounds great, you're probably doing it right. Enjoy!

Thanks. Just playing some music right now. It sounds so much better than my BK! I'm listening to all my old music and want to watch my whole Blu-ray collection again as this sub has just brought things to life!
post #11470 of 15593
Hi all,

I am just finishing re-integrating all of my components after a failed move attempt (everything has spent the last several months in storage), and I have a quick question. After recalculating my room's volume (about 3500 ft^3), I am wondering if I can safely tune my dual PC-13 ultras (sledge) to 16Hz. Typically, I listen about 10dB below reference, and I know that the limiters will protect the drivers. What I am worried about are sound artifacts from pushing them too hard (ie. chuffing, etc). Any thoughts? Thanks!
post #11471 of 15593
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Originally Posted by Vader424242 View Post

Hi all,

I am just finishing re-integrating all of my components after a failed move attempt (everything has spent the last several months in storage), and I have a quick question. After recalculating my room's volume (about 3500 ft^3), I am wondering if I can safely tune my dual PC-13 ultras (sledge) to 16Hz. Typically, I listen about 10dB below reference, and I know that the limiters will protect the drivers. What I am worried about are sound artifacts from pushing them too hard (ie. chuffing, etc). Any thoughts? Thanks!

That's where I'm going to tune mine after I get a 2nd one. Have my single at 20Hz right now.
post #11472 of 15593

with your room size and the level you listen at, you should never have any problems with running 2 PC13 Ultra subs at 16 Hz tuning; they'll be loafing and never go near max output;

as long as you don't run them 10 dB hot or more.

post #11473 of 15593
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Originally Posted by Vader424242 View Post

I am just finishing re-integrating all of my components after a failed move attempt (everything has spent the last several months in storage), and I have a quick question. After recalculating my room's volume (about 3500 ft^3), I am wondering if I can safely tune my dual PC-13 ultras (sledge) to 16Hz. Typically, I listen about 10dB below reference, and I know that the limiters will protect the drivers. What I am worried about are sound artifacts from pushing them too hard (ie. chuffing, etc). Any thoughts? Thanks!

With dual Ultras, I don't think you should be worried with output in a 3500 cu ft room. Besides, it's really easy to plug one port and change the setting on the amp. You can revert back to 20 Hz tuning if there's anything wrong, but I doubt you'll hear artifacts. I say go for it.
post #11474 of 15593
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Originally Posted by Vader424242 View Post

Hi all,

I am just finishing re-integrating all of my components after a failed move attempt (everything has spent the last several months in storage), and I have a quick question. After recalculating my room's volume (about 3500 ft^3), I am wondering if I can safely tune my dual PC-13 ultras (sledge) to 16Hz. Typically, I listen about 10dB below reference, and I know that the limiters will protect the drivers. What I am worried about are sound artifacts from pushing them too hard (ie. chuffing, etc). Any thoughts? Thanks!

My room is around 4500 ft^3 and I was using 2 PB-13 Ultras (with sledge amps) tuned at 16Hz without problems. You shouldn't have to be worried about sound artifacts or anything like that. Give it a try and report back on the results.

Cheers!
post #11475 of 15593
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Originally Posted by Mongo171 View Post

That's where I'm going to tune mine after I get a 2nd one. Have my single at 20Hz right now.

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Originally Posted by Gellidius View Post

with your room size and the level you listen at, you should never have any problems with running 2 PC13 Ultra subs at 16 Hz tuning; they'll be loafing and never go near max output;
as long as you don't run them 10 dB hot or more.

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Originally Posted by neutro View Post

With dual Ultras, I don't think you should be worried with output in a 3500 cu ft room. Besides, it's really easy to plug one port and change the setting on the amp. You can revert back to 20 Hz tuning if there's anything wrong, but I doubt you'll hear artifacts. I say go for it.

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Originally Posted by cr136124 View Post

My room is around 4500 ft^3 and I was using 2 PB-13 Ultras (with sledge amps) tuned at 16Hz without problems. You shouldn't have to be worried about sound artifacts or anything like that. Give it a try and report back on the results.

Cheers!

Thanks, all!

I will be dialing them in this weekend, and doing the final audio checkout/tweak (REW is fantastic!). I will post back with the results!
post #11476 of 15593
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Originally Posted by cr136124 View Post

My room is around 4500 ft^3 and I was using 2 PB-13 Ultras (with sledge amps) tuned at 16Hz without problems. You shouldn't have to be worried about sound artifacts or anything like that. Give it a try and report back on the results.
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What do you mean... "was using"? Did you ditch your two Ultras? Or are you saying you're no longer using them tuned at 16 Hz? smile.gif
post #11477 of 15593
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Originally Posted by neutro View Post

What do you mean... "was using"? Did you ditch your two Ultras? Or are you saying you're no longer using them tuned at 16 Hz? smile.gif

Ditch them!?!?!? NEVER!!!!

They are sound and safe at home and still tuned at 16 Hz. But, I added a third subwoofer to the mix. eek.gif

So, the grass is even greener at bassland.....wink.gif
post #11478 of 15593
I knew you had your new back-kicker in place, but I wondered about the past tense in your sentence biggrin.gif

I for one wonder when I'll have a moment to watch a movie at high levels. Now even when my daughter sleeps at her grandparent's, we can't even push it too high. The boy -- still not born yet -- freaks out when playing a movie loud tongue.gif I told my GF he just probably likes it but she gave me that look and I turned down the volume.
post #11479 of 15593
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Originally Posted by neutro View Post

I knew you had your new back-kicker in place, but I wondered about the past tense in your sentence biggrin.gif

I for one wonder when I'll have a moment to watch a movie at high levels. Now even when my daughter sleeps at her grandparent's, we can't even push it too high. The boy -- still not born yet -- freaks out when playing a movie loud tongue.gif I told my GF he just probably likes it but she gave me that look and I turned down the volume.

Sorry about the confusion!

Hey, your son is not freaking out.........he is getting excited, and he is asking you to run the system louder..........tongue.gif

But, man......when the lady is giving you the look, you have to acknowledge and comply.....wink.gif
post #11480 of 15593
Womb moshpit!!! biggrin.gif
post #11481 of 15593
SVS just sealed the deal on a life long customer. I was torn between several subs before finally pulling the trigger... after receiving an email stating I was getting a $50 refund based on the price drop within the 60 day purchase window, without any contact from me.. my comfort level skyrocketed. I definitely made the right choice. Absolutely AWESOME company!!!
post #11482 of 15593
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Originally Posted by lorilotus View Post

SVS just sealed the deal on a life long customer. I was torn between several subs before finally pulling the trigger... after receiving an email stating I was getting a $50 refund based on the price drop within the 60 day purchase window, without any contact from me.. my comfort level skyrocketed. I definitely made the right choice. Absolutely AWESOME company!!!

They definitely have a great reputation. Gets even better when you buy one or more of their products. Plus, Ed Mullen, of SVS, monitors this thread and provides great info for us.
post #11483 of 15593
So lorilotus, what did you get?

EDIT: I guess it's a PC12-NSD? Apparently the price drop did not propagate to SonicBoomAudio in Canada. Since I returned an SB12 and upgraded it to a PC12-NSD, I wouldn't balk at a $50 refund, but things are always different up here... biggrin.gif I don't think SBA has any price drop policy in place though.
Edited by neutro - 8/21/13 at 12:21pm
post #11484 of 15593
Hi

I have a pb-12nsd bash and i am looking for a upgrade.
The sb-13 ultra is my first choice because of its compact size and the great reviews

My room is about 2000 cu ft. Is the sb 13 a big step up from the pb-12?

Any thoughts?
post #11485 of 15593
Ugghhhhh! FedEx is killing me.

First the shipping tracking said my sub was to be delivered today. That changed to Thursday. Then today I check and now it says NEXT TUESDAY mad.gif

I was hoping to have it for Friday's movie night. I just watched OHF last week and while it's still fairly fresh in my mind I was going to watch it again to hear the difference.

I guess I'll have to go with LOTR FOTR for a demo movie. But not until NEXT WEEK! mad.gif
post #11486 of 15593
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Originally Posted by Kini62 View Post

Ugghhhhh! FedEx is killing me.

First the shipping tracking said my sub was to be delivered today. That changed to Thursday. Then today I check and now it says NEXT TUESDAY mad.gif

I was hoping to have it for Friday's movie night. I just watched OHF last week and while it's still fairly fresh in my mind I was going to watch it again to hear the difference.

I guess I'll have to go with LOTR FOTR for a demo movie. But not until NEXT WEEK! mad.gif

Man that really, really sucks...........sorry to hear that Kini!

OHF will help you sub to flex its muscles no doubt. I bet you will be watching the Washington Memorial scene several times. Another movie to experience the capabilities of your new sub is Oblivion (Tom Cruise/Morgan Freeman).

Just few more days my friend..........don't forget to report back on your initial impressions!
post #11487 of 15593
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Originally Posted by Kini62 View Post

Ugghhhhh! FedEx is killing me.

First the shipping tracking said my sub was to be delivered today. That changed to Thursday. Then today I check and now it says NEXT TUESDAY mad.gif

I was hoping to have it for Friday's movie night. I just watched OHF last week and while it's still fairly fresh in my mind I was going to watch it again to hear the difference.

I guess I'll have to go with LOTR FOTR for a demo movie. But not until NEXT WEEK! mad.gif
That sucks! I ordered mine after 9pm on a Friday and it was here on Tuesday. I am in NY and they are in Ohio so maybe that's why? Where are you located?
post #11488 of 15593
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Originally Posted by Dordt1977 View Post

I have a pb-12nsd bash and i am looking for a upgrade.
The sb-13 ultra is my first choice because of its compact size and the great reviews

My room is about 2000 cu ft. Is the sb 13 a big step up from the pb-12?

Any thoughts?

If compactness is *required*, then the SB13 is pretty much your best bet. Of course, with the Ultra driver and amp, this will deliver awesome output. The caveat is extension -- sealed subs naturally have a weaker low-frequency response. In the SB13 this is mitigated a bit using internal DSP EQing, and in a 2000 cu ft room, room gain will be a precious ally in that regard.

But if compactness is not an absolute requirement, then any ported sub above the PB-1000 will be an upgrade. In particular, if you're limited in footprint and not in height, the cylinders are perfect. While the PC12-NSD will only offer a modest performance boost over your BASH PB12-NSD, going with the Plus would be quite a bit cheaper than the SB13, and you'd get more low-frequency output, especially in 16 Hz tune. One thing that you'd have to forget though is the amazing finishes.
post #11489 of 15593
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Originally Posted by Kini62 View Post

First the shipping tracking said my sub was to be delivered today. That changed to Thursday. Then today I check and now it says NEXT TUESDAY mad.gif

Wow... first a one-day delay. Fine. Then suddenly a 4-working day delay? That's mad. Typically this only happens when the truck is trapped in a storm or a flooded area or something eek.gif
post #11490 of 15593
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Originally Posted by neutro View Post

Wow... first a one-day delay. Fine. Then suddenly a 4-working day delay? That's mad. Typically this only happens when the truck is trapped in a storm or a flooded area or something eek.gif

I think the sub is just enjoying the beach and surfing a bit before heading to work........wink.gif
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