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post #12001 of 15598
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I see many posts referring to many year old, couple generation removed products that people assume are the same due to the naming.

That's a very good point even though many of us know they're always evolving. So lets see.. I'm used to +, NSD, SB, PB and PC. I wonder what new abbreviations will follow suit? rolleyes.gifsmile.gif
post #12002 of 15598
I'd love to see "PB16 Ultra/2". Of course I'm not going to hold my breath for that one though.
post #12003 of 15598
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Originally Posted by Snowmanick View Post

I'd love to see "PB16 Ultra/2". Of course I'm not going to hold my breath for that one though.

How would you feel about a PB/PC16-ULTRA? I would think that would be a nice bounce. I don’t see SVS going back to dual driver options, but that’s only my opinion and could be totally/way off?
post #12004 of 15598
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Originally Posted by cchunter View Post

Damn wish I knew exactly when these were coming out. I would wait and pick up two PB-2000's. Wonder if SVS would tell me if I called now that its been leaked.
No they will not tell you anything. I called them yesterday to inquire about upgrading my PB 1000 and the person I spoke to didn't know anything about it.
post #12005 of 15598
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Originally Posted by Snowmanick View Post

I'd love to see "PB16 Ultra/2". Of course I'm not going to hold my breath for that one though.

For it is likely that the next generation "Ultra" driver incorporates a 15 "... What's more, I think it's necessary, would be a blow to rival the FV15HP. biggrin.gif
post #12006 of 15598
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Originally Posted by Lecter83 View Post

For it is likely that the next generation "Ultra" driver incorporates a 15 "... What's more, I think it's necessary, would be a blow to rival the FV15HP. biggrin.gif

I doubt you will see any 15" from SVS for less than $2.5k.
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Originally Posted by morrischestnut60 View Post

I doubt you will see any 15" from SVS for less than $2.5k.

You never know, maybe then there are surprises ... I do not look crazy and whenever this using "ferrite" in its magnets ... The cost was prohibitive in the SB16/Ultra failed because of the high price of neodymium. But being ferrite could support the price, maybe even 150 to 200 € more expensive.
post #12008 of 15598
Nomenclature changes could make way for generation "3000" with 13 "and not ... 15" on the top line?

I submit ideas, something very different then what will actually do.

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I have been thinking about getting (2) PC12-NSD to place in my front corners of my room of 13.5x16.5x8 to further smooth out the bass and for extra wow factor. Will these subs match ok with my PB12+ which I have in my left back corner because of it's size. Restrictions of the room size and furnishing prevents me from getting another PB12 +. Any thoughts about this is greatly appreciated.
Thanks
post #12010 of 15598
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Originally Posted by tang7969 View Post

No they will not tell you anything. I called them yesterday to inquire about upgrading my PB 1000 and the person I spoke to didn't know anything about it.
I just got a reply from Customer Service RapalloAV and they told me the PB2000's are leaving the factory at the end of November. You will be able to order 2nd week in December. That is in New Zealand though lol. Wonder what shipping would cost to the states lol.
post #12011 of 15598
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Originally Posted by cchunter View Post

I just got a reply from Customer Service RapalloAV and they told me the PB2000's are leaving the factory at the end of November. You will be able to order 2nd week in December. That is in New Zealand though lol. Wonder what shipping would cost to the states lol.

Further to that - here's the link to the PB2000: http://www.rapalloav.co.nz/svs-subwoofer-pb-2000.html
post #12012 of 15598
I’m wondering why NZ first though? Seems like their debut would be here in the states.
post #12013 of 15598
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Originally Posted by steve nn View Post

I’m wondering why NZ first though? Seems like their debut would be here in the states.

Might be shipping first to wherever they feel they will run out of old stock first. And since NZ is a smaller market, could be that they are using it first to see how consumers respond. Just guessing smile.gif
post #12014 of 15598
NZ is closer to the PRC than the US is.
post #12015 of 15598
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Originally Posted by Snowmanick View Post

NZ is closer to the PRC than the US is.

Had to Google that wink.gif http://www.thefreedictionary.com/PRC Thanks!
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GOOD OLD CEL Might be shipping first to wherever they feel they will run out of old stock first. And since NZ is a smaller market, could be that they are using it first to see how consumers respond. Just guessing smile.gif

Sounds plausible. Whatever the reason, we know there's reasoning behind it.
post #12016 of 15598
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Originally Posted by cfraser View Post

I recently changed from a Denon 3808 with XT to a Denon X4000 with XT32. Nothing, as in zero, else was changed, including measuring positions and furniture, strictly an AVR swap. Forget the sub type but SVS of course, the large cylindrical one (PC13??*). Anyway, I found that XT32 required a 14-15dB lower input setting on the sub to get the same Audyssey trim (which is 0dB...why not?). I am running this sub at -27 input level. Also, using the Sub EQ HT level screen thing to set sub input level for 75dB also resulted in a significant (and poor) Audyssey sub trim of like -8dB. So that 75dB level set part is clearly lousy to start with. Similar results with a spare non-SVS sub in a different position.

So, either the XT32 implementation in this AVR puts out a significantly higher sub level than the XT AVR did, or the XT32 implementation is "broken" re subs. It seems to be working VERY well in the non-sub range; I haven't tried to prove the sub range yet, only had the AVR installed for several days and the little I've watched has little bass and no LFE.

*Edit: d'oh, it is a PB13-Ultra. That's what it says anyway, I thought the cylinders had a C in them...

I checked the levels with the only really good iPhone SPL app that got great reviews, SPLnFFT. It was spot on 75dB as the microphone so I can rule out a broken mic. Still same problem though, XT32 needs the sub to be way low on gain to reach 75dB and I get around a -2dB trim as results. Sure it is easy to raise the channel level but it still seems like there is something wrong since a SVS shouldn't be made to run on 5% power right? I also use dynamic EQ on without the bass being to high.

I can say that the (digital readout) input sensitivty of my PC13-Ultra and Denon X4000 Audyssey XT32 are self-consistent, including the SubEQ HT level setting feature. IOW I decrease the sub's sensitivity by 1dB, Audyssey bumps up that sub's trim level by 1dB. Same when there are multiple subs, each sub is accounted for exactly correctly by Audyssey trim level (one advantage of sub input level being digital).

Likewise when I change the sub sensitivity during level matching...hard since it's bouncing around but I try to use the "same eye" for each reading...and again Audyssey matches my "eye". So Audyssey XT32 and the mike are hearing things correctly.

Perhaps XT32 just puts out a higher level LFE signal than XT did? I don't like it, means I have to run sensitivity on my "analog input" (non-SVS) sub in a pot range I don't like at all. Could just be a Denon change, IDK, everything still seems to work and all the settings are "relative" anyway. Maybe there was some request for higher "standard" output level for certain types of common subs that aren't very sensitive, because after all the X4000 is kinda downscale from their previous offerings that had XT32 (OK, waaaay downscale). smile.gif
post #12017 of 15598
I see RapalloAV took the PB 2000 off there website? Wonder if someone opened up the can of worms too soon and got scolded? rolleyes.gif
post #12018 of 15598
Can someone PM me any personal contact emails for anyone at SVS?

TIA.
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Just purchased two pb1000s for the family room theatre setup. Looking forward to see how they sound. Replacing a 10 yr old paradigm ps1000. Anyone have experience with them. What's your impression of having a pair of them running together in your setup?
post #12020 of 15598
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Originally Posted by tidwelr1 View Post

Just purchased two pb1000s for the family room theatre setup. Looking forward to see how they sound. Replacing a 10 yr old paradigm ps1000. Anyone have experience with them. What's your impression of having a pair of them running together in your setup?

I'm sure with proper room integration they'll knock your socks off. That being said, best to measure with REW and a mic to find the best spots for them. If you've got them in non-complimentary spots they could end up not sounding there best ( or worse they cancel eachother out for certain frequencies ). If you don't measure, at least google some threads on the best spots for dual subs for you to experiment with, to see what sounds best to your ear.
post #12021 of 15598
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Originally Posted by Sean Spamilton View Post

I'm sure with proper room integration they'll knock your socks off. That being said, best to measure with REW and a mic to find the best spots for them. If you've got them in non-complimentary spots they could end up not sounding there best ( or worse they cancel eachother out for certain frequencies ). If you don't measure, at least google some threads on the best spots for dual subs for you to experiment with, to see what sounds best to your ear.
there's really only two areas that I can put them...rear corners. I'm hoping they sound good. Will be calling svs for help in setting them up properly. Will post my impression after everything is setup. Wish I had more flexibility in placement options, but it is what it is.
post #12022 of 15598
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Originally Posted by steve nn View Post

Had to Google that wink.gif http://www.thefreedictionary.com/PRC Thanks!
Sounds plausible. Whatever the reason, we know there's reasoning behind it.

Apparently it has been a great **** from new zealand ... Lol.

They have rushed to announce the new change in nomenclature, the fact is that if you go to the url no longer exists ...

http://www.rapalloav.co.nz/svs-subwoofer-pb-2000.html
post #12023 of 15598
Hi guys

I was wondering if you could offer me some advice.

I am looking at SVS subs and need a recommendation.

My room is approx . 22L x 16W x 7 ceiling height.

I use one end for my HT area,the couch divides the room.(lenghth wise)

I am now using a HSU STF-2,but looking for some more slam ,especially for HT as opposed to music

I am thinking along the lines of two PB-1000 or one PB12-NSD.

Any thoughts?

Thanks
Shawn
post #12024 of 15598
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Originally Posted by MGBMAN View Post

Hi guys

I was wondering if you could offer me some advice.

I am looking at SVS subs and need a recommendation.

My room is approx . 22L x 16W x 7 ceiling height.

I use one end for my HT area,the couch divides the room.(lenghth wise)

I am now using a HSU STF-2,but looking for some more slam ,especially for HT as opposed to music

I am thinking along the lines of two PB-1000 or one PB12-NSD.

Any thoughts?

Thanks
Shawn
svs says told me 2 pb1000s has 50% more output than 1 pb12 nsd, thus, I went with 2 pb1000s. There are other benefits of two subs. Take a look at the svs website.
post #12025 of 15598
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Originally Posted by Lecter83 View Post

Apparently it has been a great **** from new zealand ... Lol.

They have rushed to announce the new change in nomenclature, the fact is that if you go to the url no longer exists ...

http://www.rapalloav.co.nz/svs-subwoofer-pb-2000.html

no·men·cla·ture
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noun
1.
the devising or choosing of names for things, esp. in a science or other discipline. rolleyes.gifbiggrin.gifcool.gif
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Tid>svs says told me 2 pb1000s has 50% more output than 1 pb12 nsd, thus, I went with 2 pb1000s. There are other benefits of two subs. Take a look at the svs website.


Yes +3dB over the PB12-NSD unless there has been a change. smile.gifstacked
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Originally Posted by steve nn View Post

no·men·cla·ture
ˈnōmənˌklāCHər/Submit
noun
1.

En mi idioma llamamos cambio de nomenclatura, al cambio de nombre para sustituir la misma serie. (Aquí un poco de lo complejo que es mi idioma).

ˈnōmənˌklāCHər/Submit
noun


¿?

I do not quite understand what that means ... rolleyes.gif
post #12027 of 15598
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Originally Posted by Lecter83 View Post

En mi idioma llamamos cambio de nomenclatura, al cambio de nombre para sustituir la misma serie. (Aquí un poco de lo complejo que es mi idioma).

ˈnōmənˌklāCHər/Submit
noun


¿?

I do not quite understand what that means ... rolleyes.gif

The best I can figure is SVS is trying to come up with a name schematic from your prior post??
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Lecter They have rushed to announce the new change in nomenclature
post #12028 of 15598
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Originally Posted by steve nn View Post

The best I can figure is SVS is trying to come up with a name schematic from your prior post??

Surely if.
post #12029 of 15598
Well I get my PB-1000 today for my desk setup (AudioEngine A5+). I recently ordered the SB-1000 and got the PB-1000 for comparison. I think I'll like the PB better, especially since the high pass filter on the SB (refurb) I received isn't even working. Beside that though, I listen to 90% electronic music so it'll be a nice upgrade in sub bass output.
post #12030 of 15598
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Originally Posted by dctrombly View Post

Well I get my PB-1000 today for my desk setup (AudioEngine A5+). I recently ordered the SB-1000 and got the PB-1000 for comparison. I think I'll like the PB better, especially since the high pass filter on the SB (refurb) I received isn't even working. Beside that though, I listen to 90% electronic music so it'll be a nice upgrade in sub bass output.

Congrats! cool.gif Any chance of a pic or two?
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