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post #12691 of 15861
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Originally Posted by BeeMan458 View Post

Don't want anybody hurting their finances but I don't want folks throwing good money after bad. Doesn't make sense. But if someone stretches themselves out a month or two and they get something worth having, then in my opinion, they have spent their discretionary monies, wisely.

From reading these forums, it seems more money is wasted on upgrades than buying too much subwoofage. I've read of one person, downgrading their system, and what they posted, didn't meet the smell test so I think they were BS'g. I could be wrong on that point but I've read of one downgrade vs hundreds, if not thousands of upgrades. This point tells me where reality lies.

Once one settles into the better subwoofer, you don't read of someone posting how they wish they had bought a smaller single subwoofer over a pair of much larger subwoofers. Just doesn't happen and there's a reason for that also, In the case of subwoofers, more and bigger, work. Note another comment in my post below:

"Subwoofers are a money pit of happiness. The more one throws down the rat hole labeled subwoofers, the happier the individual becomes."

In the case of subwoofers, money can buy happiness. Subwoofers are one of the few purchases in life that long after they're purchased, continue to bring joy and happiness into the buyer's life. Subwoofers? More is always better. It's nice to read that my sense of humor made you laugh. biggrin.gif

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I will second that biggrin.gif

Ray
post #12692 of 15861
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Originally Posted by Brian Fineberg View Post

Still don't get it. It's not ironic; I never owned 2 sb12's.

Maybe I'm missing something smile.gif

What you're missing, Brian, is the realization of the sad fact that 90% of the posters on this -- and almost every other online forum in existence -- don't know the difference between "to", "too", and "two". Or "there" and "their". Or "your" and "you're", or....

Your post was:
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Originally Posted by Brian Fineberg View Post

Yup. Within two years I went from:
No sub
To svs sb12
To svs pb12
To psa xv15
To psa xs30
To dual psa xs30's

...meaning that you went from NO sub TO an SB12, TO a PB12, etc.

Apparently, what tommaazz thought you meant, was that you went from NO sub to TWO SB12s, to TWO PB12s, etc.

Of course, following that progression to its end would give you four xs30s (wouldn't that be something?)

Inherent irony?... none that I can see, either... unless one finds it ironic that a lot of supposed "techies" whose first language is English, can't spell, and have no sense of grammar, whatsoever.
Edited by B 26354 - 1/3/14 at 4:13pm
post #12693 of 15861
The irony was, by having a much better pair of subs, such as the XS30s, one is in a position to comment.

(i promise to not do standup)
post #12694 of 15861
Ahhhhh hahah. It's been a long day. Shoveling a foot of snow. Then getting cabin fever (not to be confused with cabin gain)
post #12695 of 15861

Well, if you go from one sub to too subs, you have twice as many.  Their is no other way to interpret it. If people cant see this, there just going to have to learn grammer. 

post #12696 of 15861
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Originally Posted by Teremei View Post

Right. I am leaning NSD. Just telling you strongly this is the end of the line for me. At my paygrade, the Klipsch center and towers are worth it as they were not insanely expensive and REALLY opened up the soundstage. The movies and music sound open and clear and impactful. I know what I am looking for. And all I am looking for is an affordable, yet noticeable overall increase in the quality and smoothness of the "lows". Which is why I lean toward the NSD. The last upgrade I will make is replacing the polk bookshelfs for surround with either the bookshelf version or surround version of the klipsch 52s (51s). And that will be the end all be all of upgrades. My home theater in my living room will be at MY "dream level" of output. I will seek no more upgrades.

The only reason I went on this upgrade binge in the first place is because my DLP went bad and I had finally gotten that 70" sony with passive 3D (I have over 50 3D blurays) that I had always wanted. I was already pretty satisfied with the polks. But after buying the Klipsch I'm glad I did and I see what I was missing. I predict the NSD will show me what I was missing in the low end and I will be happy.

Sounds good to me biggrin.gif Enjoy!
post #12697 of 15861
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Originally Posted by bear123 View Post

" if you go from one sub to too subs" 
Shouldn't this read "if you go from won sub tutu subs"?wink.gif
post #12698 of 15861
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Originally Posted by ransac View Post


Shouldn't this read "if you go from won sub tutu subs"?wink.gif

Glad my post did not go over your head :)

post #12699 of 15861
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Originally Posted by Reference_head View Post

Sounds good to me biggrin.gif Enjoy!

looking forward to it! (come on NSD get here!!) Good news is NSD shipped even though it said they resume shipping on the 6th.
post #12700 of 15861
Anybody know of a good riser for a pb12 nsd? I need two.
post #12701 of 15861
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Originally Posted by missyman View Post

Anybody know of a good riser for a pb12 nsd? I need two.

I have gotten 2 of the GRAMMA's off ebay. Not sure if this is what you mean by a riser.
post #12702 of 15861
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Originally Posted by BCRSS View Post

I have gotten 2 of the GRAMMA's off ebay. Not sure if this is what you mean by a riser.
that's exactly what I'm talking about. Thanks.
post #12703 of 15861
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Originally Posted by Mongo171 View Post


I just watched the Server Scene again and I did hear chuffing. Upon further inspection, I realized it was my roof chuffing. I guess I need to unplug one of the ports in the attic. eek.gif


Wow this is hilarious.  The new benchmark for subwoofer performance.  If it makes your roof chuff, you are doing it right.

post #12704 of 15861
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I just watched the Server Scene again and I did hear chuffing. Upon further inspection, I realized it was my roof chuffing. I guess I need to unplug one of the ports in the attic. eek.gif

Wow this is hilarious. The new benchmark for subwoofer performance. If it makes your roof chuff, you are doing it right.

We’re going to have to load a couple PR’s up in that attic biggrin.gif
post #12705 of 15861
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Originally Posted by missyman View Post

Anybody know of a good riser for a pb12 nsd? I need two.
Either that or get the isolation feet from SVS. http://www.svsound.com/subwoofers/subwoofer-accessories/SoundPath-Subwoofer-Isolation-System#.UshEhvRDvy4
post #12706 of 15861
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Originally Posted by missyman View Post

Anybody know of a good riser for a pb12 nsd? I need two.

Build it and they will come. That's what I did for my PC12-NSD.

I've already found the perfect box for my SB-1000s. Now I just need to get another.
post #12707 of 15861
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Originally Posted by Sean Spamilton View Post

SVS has an upgrade policy where if they upgrade a current product to a new one they'll replace yours within a year, am I right? I just bought 2 new pc12's last month, would be great to upgrade them if they suddenly turn into PC2000's next month!


Correct. But SVS is branding the new subwoofer's SB2000 and PB2000, they could say these are not replacing the NSD subwoofers rather new addtions to the SVS family. I assume they would have quite a bit of PB and SB12's still in inventory and will sell those alongside the SB/Pb2k's. From what I read Jan 8th they should be on SVS's website.

If they do honor the upgrade policy, well I have 3 SB12's ready to ship back for some 500 watt SB2000's biggrin.gif
Edited by deepat04 - 1/5/14 at 3:10pm
post #12708 of 15861
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Originally Posted by deepat04 View Post

Correct. But SVS is branding the new subwoofer's SB2000 and PB2000, they could say these are not replacing the NSD subwoofers rather new addtions to the SVS family. I assume they would have quite a bit of PB and SB12's still in inventory and will sell those alongside the SB/Pb2k's. From what I read the Jan 8th they should be on SVS's website.

If they do honor the upgrade policy, well I have 3 SB12's ready to ship back for some 500 watt SB2000's biggrin.gif

so they are making newer SB and PB but not PCs?
post #12709 of 15861

This will be interesting to see what comes of the rumored pb2000.  Although imo, SVS seemed to be the leader in linearity, quality, warranty etc, there are a couple of competitors in the 7-$800 range that seem to have a clear output advantage.  Maybe this update will close that gap.

post #12710 of 15861
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Originally Posted by Teremei View Post


so they are making newer SB and PB but not PCs?


Any of your subs in yet? Have you tried either one if so?

post #12711 of 15861
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Originally Posted by bear123 View Post


Any of your subs in yet? Have you tried either one if so?

Nope, on Monday and Tuesday. This is the first I've heard they are about to release some new models so I will be following it with interest. Will of course give mine a try but I would be doing a disservice to myself if I didn't at least keep an eye on things while under the 45 day trial.
post #12712 of 15861
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Originally Posted by bear123 View Post

This will be interesting to see what comes of the rumored pb2000.  Although imo, SVS seemed to be the leader in linearity, quality, warranty etc, there are a couple of competitors in the 7-$800 range that seem to have a clear output advantage.  Maybe this update will close that gap.

Odd, the SB and PB-1000 lines are very new themselves. I wish Dr. Hsu would reveal if he is going to release anything new anytime soon.
post #12713 of 15861
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Originally Posted by deepat04 View Post

Correct. But SVS is branding the new subwoofer's SB2000 and PB2000, they could say these are not replacing the NSD subwoofers rather new addtions to the SVS family. I assume they would have quite a bit of PB and SB12's still in inventory and will sell those alongside the SB/Pb2k's. From what I read the Jan 8th they should be on SVS's website.

If they do honor the upgrade policy, well I have 3 SB12's ready to ship back for some 500 watt SB2000's biggrin.gif

Their 1 year trade up states
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You may trade in any product purchased from SVS within 1 year of your purchase, and receive full credit toward the purchase of a more expensive like product.

So if it a couple hundred more there is no reason it wouldn't count as an upgrade. But you just mentioned SB and PB so I guess they aren't making "PC-2000s"?
post #12714 of 15861
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Originally Posted by Teremei View Post

Their 1 year trade up states
So if it a couple hundred more there is no reason it wouldn't count as an upgrade. But you just mentioned SB and PB so I guess they aren't making "PC-2000s"?

If SVS improves the performance of a model you purchased, we will upgrade it to current standards at no charge within 1 year of your purchase.

This was the trade up policy I was referring to.
post #12715 of 15861
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Originally Posted by deepat04 View Post

If they do honor the upgrade policy, well I have 3 SB12's ready to ship back for some 500 watt SB2000's biggrin.gif

Just saying, if you're sending SB12-NSDs back for SB2000s, allow me to encourage you to step up to the Plus or the Ultras and go where your really want to go.
post #12716 of 15861
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Originally Posted by BeeMan458 View Post

Just saying, if you're sending SB12-NSDs back for SB2000s, allow me to encourage you to step up to the Plus or the Ultras and go where your really want to go.

Well we don't know exactly where the price is gonna be yet. That is the #1 factor to me.
post #12717 of 15861
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Originally Posted by Teremei View Post

That is the #1 factor to me.

As always, it's all about the Benjamins. tongue.gif
post #12718 of 15861

The 2000 line is also up on the svs german web site.  If I converted things properly, the PB2000 appears to be larger and heavier than the PB12-NSD.

 

I have seen the dimensions listed as such:

 

22.1" x 18.3" x 23.25  weight 79 lbs

 

500w rms/1100 peak

 

But the next page lists the dimensions as 22.5 x 18.3 x 26.7  weight 66 lbs


Edited by bear123 - 1/5/14 at 7:00am
post #12719 of 15861
SB2000
PB2000

Like the veneer compared to the older version.
post #12720 of 15861
^^^

And it seems they will be sporting the metal grill too (at least as per this pic from the SB2000 from the German site):







Now the big questions are: release date and price here in the US?
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