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Originally Posted by wadeh911 View Post

Still laughing about you new jingling jockstrap. However I have a sb13 ultra and a pc13 ultra who play extremely well together. No difficulty in tweaking phase or level. In fact when both are woofing it sounds magical. Wanted the tightness for music and the SB added that snap. Wanted the output for movies and the PC added that.

You have 2 apples. They might be a Granny Smith and a MacIntosh, but they are both apples. Same amps and drivers.

cchunter was talking about a PB-2000 and an SB13-Ultra. Apples to oranges. Different amps and drivers.
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Originally Posted by Mongo171 View Post

You have 2 apples. They might be a Granny Smith and a MacIntosh, but they are both apples. Same amps and drivers.

cchunter was talking about a PB-2000 and an SB13-Ultra. Apples to oranges. Different amps and drivers.
I kinda figured with the amps and drivers being different but wanted to hear opinions. So if it was the PB or PC version Ultra I'm assuming they would play well together?
post #13443 of 15620
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Originally Posted by cchunter View Post

I kinda figured with the amps and drivers being different but wanted to hear opinions. So if it was the PB or PC version Ultra I'm assuming they would play well together?

I think any of the subs, in the same family (amps and drivers), will play well together. Once you start mixing and matching is where the problems will pop up. But, I am not saying different subs CAN"'T be matched. It will just bring up problems and not let the subs play at their fullest potential.
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Originally Posted by cchunter View Post

I kinda figured with the amps and drivers being different but wanted to hear opinions. So if it was the PB or PC version Ultra I'm assuming they would play well together?

Agree with Mongos above statement...

However, to be sure and remove any guess work reach out to SVS and discuss with them. Their customer service is exceptional and they will steer you in the right direction with pairing. I did that and while fairly convinced I needed the PB 2000, I ended up with the PB 1000 as my pairing sub to the PC12.

They play wonderfully together...
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Originally Posted by cchunter View Post

I kinda figured with the amps and drivers being different but wanted to hear opinions. So if it was the PB or PC version Ultra I'm assuming they would play well together?

Agree with Mongos above statement...

However, to be sure and remove any guess work reach out to SVS and discuss with them. Their customer service is exceptional and they will steer you in the right direction with pairing. I did that and while fairly convinced I needed the PB 2000, I ended up with the PB 1000 as my pairing sub to the PC12.

They play wonderfully together...

I've been perfectly happy with my old SVS 20 - 39 PCI cylinder sub, but when I got a Denon 4520, I got the itch to try 2 subs. No room for a 2nd SVS cylinder in my room. And I can shake the room pretty good with just the one cylinder. Dan at SVS suggested ( due to size restraints for the 2nd sub ) that I try a SB1000. Yes, it sort of a David and Goliath sub pair. But, the SB1000 adds just enough " oomph " to smooth out the LFE in my room. They work surprising well together. smile.gif
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Well began to set up the Subs. I decided to go the route I di with the PB 1000's set one up listen for a while then set up the other sub.

I set up the one in the location of where I took the pic earlier. Played Stellastar* CD that has some nice mid range base to start to loosen the sub. Decided to crank it up to 0
on my Adcom GTP830 feeding a GFA 5303 Amp. Sounded great them poof! no high or mid range sound!! I Phucking blew my
Phase tech PC 800HO speakers!!!! Well at leas the mid and tweeters. Hopefully its just a fuse or the cross over.

Have to inspect and make the repairs. Thank goodness I'm getting pretty good at board level repairs on electronics , Just enough to get me in trouble wink.gif

I'll have to hook up my old Phase tech Book shelves to fill in for now.

But I must say the one PB 2000 did almost as good as the dual PB 1000's .

EDIT: It was just the fuses wink.gif


Athanasios
Edited by nashou66 - 1/26/14 at 8:30pm
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looking forward to more of your review.
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Originally Posted by nashou66 View Post

Well began to set up the Subs. I decided to go the route I di with the PB 1000's set one up listen for a while then set up the other sub.

I set up the one in the location of where I took the pic earlier. Played Stellastar* CD that has some nice mid range base to start to loosen the sub. Decided to crank it up to 0
on my Adcom GTP830 feeding a GFA 5303 Amp. Sounded great them poof! no high or mid range sound!! I Phucking blew my
Phase tech PC 800HO speakers!!!! Well at leas the mid and tweeters. Hopefully its just a fuse or the cross over.

Have to inspect and make the repairs. Thank goodness I'm getting pretty good at board level repairs on electronics , Just enough to get me in trouble wink.gif

I'll have to hook up my old Phase tech Book shelves to fill in for now.

But I must say the one PB 2000 did almost as good as the dual PB 1000's .

EDIT: It was just the fuses wink.gif


Athanasios

Good to hear it was only fuses.
post #13450 of 15620
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EDIT: It was just the fuses wink.gif

Close one cool.gif
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Connection question.

I have a two channel system with a SB-2000. I connected the sub by running the a line from preamp outs over to the sub and the outs on the sub back to the main in on the amp.

As I understand it, connected like this the sub plays the low sounds and the mid and high are produced by the mains.

All is good.

My question is, if I want to listen to my speakers full range without the sub, will simply not turning the sub on allow the full signal to pass though the sub and back to the main in on my amp?

Or

As long as I keep the connection to the sub in place my speaker will not play in full range?

If you are not sure, please say so. I have gotten many different answers on this. The sub manufacturers are not even sure at least at the customer service level. I have not gotten through to SVS on this but have talked to other companies about this.
post #13452 of 15620
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Originally Posted by eljr View Post

Connection question.

I have a two channel system with a SB-2000. I connected the sub by running the a line from preamp outs over to the sub and the outs on the sub back to the main in on the amp.

As I understand it, connected like this the sub plays the low sounds and the mid and high are produced by the mains.

All is good.

My question is, if I want to listen to my speakers full range without the sub, will simply not turning the sub on allow the full signal to pass though the sub and back to the main in on my amp?

Or

As long as I keep the connection to the sub in place my speaker will not play in full range?

If you are not sure, please say so. I have gotten many different answers on this. The sub manufacturers are not even sure at least at the customer service level. I have not gotten through to SVS on this but have talked to other companies about this.

Not sure; SVS sure will have a more definitive answer. But according to the manual (p.7, bullet #7), the "line level outputs feature a fixed 80 Hz 12 dB/octave high pass filter", so it doesn't look like you can bypass it without disconnecting your amp from the sub output.
post #13453 of 15620
I run my SVS SB12+ through the HP in/out I'll try it sometime.
post #13454 of 15620
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Originally Posted by eljr View Post

Connection question.

I have a two channel system with a SB-2000. I connected the sub by running the a line from preamp outs over to the sub and the outs on the sub back to the main in on the amp.

As I understand it, connected like this the sub plays the low sounds and the mid and high are produced by the mains.

All is good.

My question is, if I want to listen to my speakers full range without the sub, will simply not turning the sub on allow the full signal to pass though the sub and back to the main in on my amp?

Or

As long as I keep the connection to the sub in place my speaker will not play in full range?

If you are not sure, please say so. I have gotten many different answers on this. The sub manufacturers are not even sure at least at the customer service level. I have not gotten through to SVS on this but have talked to other companies about this.

To be safe use a Y connector to spit the L and R to your amp as well as to the sub. . Set the Filter on the sub to 80 hz as the manual says on page 9. So if its off the Amp will get the full range as long as you have it set that way in the Pre/Pro.

Athanasios
post #13455 of 15620
What do you guys suggest?

Large L-shape room with open kitchen. Let's say total 125m3..
TV and fronts are placed against the longest wall that leads into the open kitchen..
Size living room is 6m x 5.5m (The 5.5 is a part of the longest wall that leads to the kitchen)..
TV - couch distance 5.5m..

I prefer the SB's (size & look), but for HT impact I read here that the PB is better for larger rooms.
So I guess this would be my only choice. (This is my max budget)

A single PB-2000 or dual PB-1000?

If dual, placement will be on the left of the TV and the other next to the couch opposite the other sub so facing each other.
Note there is a back wall for both subs, but on the side it's a complete glass wall and goes also from top to bottom.

Or... Don't thinks so... Would dual SB1000 or dual SB2000 work? smile.gif
Edited by Subber - 1/27/14 at 3:24pm
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Originally Posted by Subber View Post

What do you guys suggest?

Large L-shape room with open kitchen. Let's say total 125m3..
TV and fronts are placed against the longest wall that leads into the open kitchen..
Size living room is 6m x 5.5m (The 5.5 is a part of the longest wall that leads to the kitchen)..
TV - couch distance 5.5m..

I prefer the SB's (size & look), but for HT impact I read here that the PB is better for larger rooms.
So I guess this would be my only choice. (This is my max budget)

A single PB-2000 or dual PB-1000?

If dual, placement will be on the left of the TV and the other next to the couch opposite the other sub so facing each other.
Note there is a back wall for both subs, but on the side it's a complete glass wall and goes also from top to bottom.

Or... Don't thinks so... Would dual SB1000/2000 work? smile.gif

I vote for duals. Of the same sub.
post #13457 of 15620
Edited my post as the last part maybe wasn't clear. I'm talking about the same sub model when running duals.
post #13458 of 15620
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Originally Posted by Subber View Post

Edited my post as the last part maybe wasn't clear. I'm talking about the same sub model when running duals.

Obviously, dual 2000's would be better than 1000's. But, the 1000's would be cheaper.
post #13459 of 15620
I talked to Lou from sonicboom via email today. They except my pc13 to ship Thursday and be here for Friday. Really I can't wait, but I'm kinda nervous I'm going to hurt the house, ht gear, or anything valuable. I love worries like this smile.gif
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Originally Posted by Walker2 View Post

I talked to Lou from sonicboom via email today. They except my pc13 to ship Thursday and be here for Friday. Really I can't wait, but I'm kinda nervous I'm going to hurt the house, ht gear, or anything valuable. I love worries like this smile.gif

First world problems....
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Originally Posted by Walker2 View Post

I talked to Lou from sonicboom via email today. They except my pc13 to ship Thursday and be here for Friday. Really I can't wait, but I'm kinda nervous I'm going to hurt the house, ht gear, or anything valuable. I love worries like this smile.gif

Make sure to put any pictures, hanging or otherwise, off kilter as not to worry when the sub rearranges them.
post #13462 of 15620
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Originally Posted by Mongo171 View Post

Make sure to put any pictures, hanging or otherwise, off kilter as not to worry when the sub rearranges them.

Will do, and thanks for the heads up.
post #13463 of 15620
If any one on here lives in Huston, Tx there is a pb12 plus on ebay for 350 in perfect condition for local pickup
post #13464 of 15620
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Originally Posted by coxcableman View Post

If any one on here lives in Huston, Tx there is a pb12 plus on ebay for 350 in perfect condition for local pickup

That is a PB12+/2, dual 12 inch drivers. They were made up until around 2007.

$350 is an incredible deal. I just sold 2 of them for $600 each.
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That is a hell of a deal wish I lived closer it would be mine right now
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Whoa he's giving that away for that price. Sweet deal for someone!
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Yeah he is! I'm 800 plus miles from there, someone is gonna get a smoking deal
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Originally Posted by coxcableman View Post

Yeah he is! I'm 800 plus miles from there, someone is gonna get a smoking deal
yea if I was within 300 miles I'd do it
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Originally Posted by cchunter View Post

yea if I was within 300 miles I'd do it
Thats what I just told my wife and she got mad and said I thought you were done buying speakers!!!
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