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Originally Posted by lalakersfan34 
I'd personally recommend purchasing the best sub(s) you can afford. I have two PB10's in a room smaller than yours and they do a great job. However, I started with one and ended up adding a second later because I found one to be a little lacking in output. Don't get me wrong, a single PB10 was pretty visceral but since I like to watch movies and listen to music pretty loud, I could tell it was running into dynamic compression when I pushed it hard. Adding a second alleviated that issue.
You've mentioned that you don't necessarily want to listen really loud, but -10 from reference on WOTW is quite loud. WOTW is an extremely hot soundtrack with insane LFE. Some of the material on that disc is also unfortunately right at the limit of the extension of my PB10's. In my room they give me very strong output to about 16hz. The lightening strike and pods emerging scenes both have a lot of energy in the 15-20hz range, and while my PB10's do an admirable job, a larger sub like the PB12 Plus would probably do better. However, above 20hz, my dual PB10's actually have more output than a PB12 Plus (according to Ed Mullen). If you must have strong output way down deep (say 15hz or even a bit lower) the PB10 won't cut it. Keep in mind that very few movies and virtually no music contain bass that deep. The PB10 does a great job on 99% of bass out there;
Since you're considering a single PB10 vs. a PB12 Plus, I'd have to assume the Plus would produce a much more visceral, powerful experience, and since the Plus woofers are better than the NSD, you'd likely get slightly better sound quality as well. Assuming you can just have a single sub and you only consider purchasing a PB12 Plus or a PB10 I'd go with the PB12 Plus without thinking twice. However if it's between dual PB10's, a PB12-NSD, or PB12 Plus, the decision becomes much more difficult.
If you're forced to have only one sub, I'd go with either the PB12-NSD or PB12 Plus. These two will give more output than the PB10, as well as digging a little deeper and having more headroom. Cost-no-object the PB12 Plus is obviously the best choice, but if you need to be a little budget conscious, the PB12-NSD is a potent sub that will likely offer much of the PB12 Plus's performance for a lot less money. I'd recommend e-mailing or calling SVS if you haven't already to get their input as well. Best of luck, and keep us posted on your decision
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I'd personally recommend purchasing the best sub(s) you can afford. I have two PB10's in a room smaller than yours and they do a great job. However, I started with one and ended up adding a second later because I found one to be a little lacking in output. Don't get me wrong, a single PB10 was pretty visceral but since I like to watch movies and listen to music pretty loud, I could tell it was running into dynamic compression when I pushed it hard. Adding a second alleviated that issue.
You've mentioned that you don't necessarily want to listen really loud, but -10 from reference on WOTW is quite loud. WOTW is an extremely hot soundtrack with insane LFE. Some of the material on that disc is also unfortunately right at the limit of the extension of my PB10's. In my room they give me very strong output to about 16hz. The lightening strike and pods emerging scenes both have a lot of energy in the 15-20hz range, and while my PB10's do an admirable job, a larger sub like the PB12 Plus would probably do better. However, above 20hz, my dual PB10's actually have more output than a PB12 Plus (according to Ed Mullen). If you must have strong output way down deep (say 15hz or even a bit lower) the PB10 won't cut it. Keep in mind that very few movies and virtually no music contain bass that deep. The PB10 does a great job on 99% of bass out there;
Since you're considering a single PB10 vs. a PB12 Plus, I'd have to assume the Plus would produce a much more visceral, powerful experience, and since the Plus woofers are better than the NSD, you'd likely get slightly better sound quality as well. Assuming you can just have a single sub and you only consider purchasing a PB12 Plus or a PB10 I'd go with the PB12 Plus without thinking twice. However if it's between dual PB10's, a PB12-NSD, or PB12 Plus, the decision becomes much more difficult.
If you're forced to have only one sub, I'd go with either the PB12-NSD or PB12 Plus. These two will give more output than the PB10, as well as digging a little deeper and having more headroom. Cost-no-object the PB12 Plus is obviously the best choice, but if you need to be a little budget conscious, the PB12-NSD is a potent sub that will likely offer much of the PB12 Plus's performance for a lot less money. I'd recommend e-mailing or calling SVS if you haven't already to get their input as well. Best of luck, and keep us posted on your decision
.I would the PB10 give at -10dlb on WOTW. I've never had it up and it was too loud. I usually listen in the -17 > -22dbl depending on how hot the track is.
