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post #421 of 15593
I understand that setting speakers to small makes them more eficant and the amp runs better.but it kills me if I had a nice pair of towers and setting them to small
My Paradigm 40's are concered bookshelfs but I want them to crank out some lows
post #422 of 15593
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Originally Posted by antman27 View Post

I understand that setting speakers to small makes them more eficant and the amp runs better.but it kills me if I had a nice pair of towers and setting them to small
My Paradigm 40's are concered bookshelfs but I want them to crank out some lows

Why let them crank out lows and steal those from a more capable subwoofer?
post #423 of 15593
I think it's the label that kills people. Small vs. large. It just seems un-American to go "small" on anything. If they labeled it "use crossover" with Yes or No, people probably wouldn't have the same reaction. It's not just the efficiency, but when set to large, all but the very largest and capable towers will be asked to reproduce frequencies they just can't reproduce as well as a quality subwoofer will (especially at high volumes). Setting your towers to small is really just using the right tool for the job.

-Robb
post #424 of 15593
All speakers (no matter how BIG or how TINY) should be set to SMALL when using a decent Sub.

If you want more bass, just put the crossover at its lowest setting that your reciever will let you.

Normal is 80hz and thats what I use...
post #425 of 15593
I got my new sub yesterday from Sonicboomaudio up here in Canada. Toom 2 days shipping. Was packed semi-OK, could have been better packed, like a double box.

Well first impressions sound wise is it's better so far than my 8" Advent. Putting them side by side is a joke, the SVS is a beast!

I listened to some U-571, Incredibles, King Kong, WOTW, Fining Nemo and it was awesome. Not as blown away as I thought I was going to be, but maybe in time I will be. I have not really listened to it and enjoyed it, probally do to the fact on the day that I got it, my wife got in a car accident(not her fault) so that took all the fun out of my new toy.

Working on sub placement and such to produce better output. It's big to move around!!

One question does come to mind, when I was trying to setup my speakers to 75db(no sound meter yet, was going on 75db is a vacuum cleaner, so I ran my vacuum while I did the test tones until I could here them) on my reciever using the internal test tone of it. At about -25db on my amp, it got way to loud for me, and my ears started to ring. I'm using a Pio VSX-515.

I do not have the greatest speakers in my HT, JVC fronts, Kenwood center and Advent surrounds. The test tone really kills my ears. I probably need new speakers and a new amp which in time I will be getting.

I guess until I get a SPL meter I'll truly never know how loud It is.
post #426 of 15593
Yup - get an spl meter and a copy of Avia - well worth it!
post #427 of 15593
Hi donnie,
Judging by your pic you are running the kef reference theatre speakers same as me (or at least the rears ) I myself have that speaker set and am looking to add a SVS sub. Can you please tell me how you find the sub as a match for the kef set? and would you reccomend the sub to a fellow kef owner like myself?

Also did you get the sub that was part of the set? I did and unfortunately it was a POS I had to replace the driver in it before it would not bottom out on me.

Also one last thing if you run a 7.1 which speakers do you use for the back channels.

Sorry about getting off topic.



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Originally Posted by DonnieW View Post

There she is...

She has no idea she's about to be gutted in the next few minutes. Least of all she has no clue she's getting a new pair of woofers



continues...
post #428 of 15593
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Originally Posted by billybob_jcv View Post

Yup - get an spl meter and a copy of Avia - well worth it!

Would you know why my ears would ring at higher volumes of the test tone?
post #429 of 15593
Thanks for all of the great responses to my earlier question. I can't wait for the PB-10 to arrive.
post #430 of 15593
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Originally Posted by maccin View Post

Thanks for all of the great responses to my earlier question. I can't wait for the PB-10 to arrive.

My PB10 arrived...but I can't use it for another 51 days
post #431 of 15593
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Originally Posted by DrPainMD View Post

Would you know why my ears would ring at higher volumes of the test tone?

No - other than perhaps the pink noise may be exciting a room mode - does it happen no matter where you are in the room, or does it seem to vary in intensity as you walk around the room? Is it only with the sub channel, or is all channels?

Pink noise is bloody annoying - I can only run tests when my wife is out of the house or she gets PO'd - of course the fact that I was running test tones & freq sweeps for about a week straight when I first got the system *might* have something to do with her sensitivity...
post #432 of 15593
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Originally Posted by Moondynejoe View Post

Hi donnie,
Judging by your pic you are running the kef reference theatre speakers same as me (or at least the rears ) I myself have that speaker set and am looking to add a SVS sub. Can you please tell me how you find the sub as a match for the kef set? and would you reccomend the sub to a fellow kef owner like myself?

Also did you get the sub that was part of the set? I did and unfortunately it was a POS I had to replace the driver in it before it would not bottom out on me.

Also one last thing if you run a 7.1 which speakers do you use for the back channels.

Sorry about getting off topic.

It's not really off-topic as we're discussion how the SVS blends with existing speakers.

In my case, I don't own any KEF gear. The back half of my 7.1 system consists of 4 Paradigm Reference ADP 470's. You can kind of make them out in this shot from our analysis of acoustic panel placement.


post #433 of 15593
i'm using auralex gramma, where SVS sits peacefully
post #434 of 15593
Has anyone had any experience buying from SVS's B-LIST.

Erik told me about it today and I looked on there and they have some good deals.
Just a little worried about "used" or "open" stuff....
But for the price they seem like good deals.

The one I am most interested is this one :
B-stock Model PB12- NSD Black
Product ID: b-PB12-NSD-black
This is the old model PB12-NSD with the base plate
$450

That's way cheaper than the $569 new one with my discount for a return customer

Erik wrote to me: "Basically the differences are that the new PB12-NSD can play lower (18hz vs 22hz), louder (maybe a db or two) and has a little smoother frequency response. The differences are not night and day but they are noticeable. At $450 I think the b-stock item is a good deal even knowing the differences but of course that's a matter of personal opinion. "

I'm trying to stay around that $400 price tag of the NSD 10inch......but I'D LOVE to get the 12 because I know its performace would blow me away!


thoughts and opinions...(I like to remind people I am upgrading from a Cerwin Vega LW-12 that is 150Watts)

or I do have the option of a new PB10-NSD for $407
post #435 of 15593
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Originally Posted by bgillyjcu View Post

Has anyone had any experience buying from SVS's B-LIST.

Erik told me about it today and I looked on there and they have some good deals.
Just a little worried about "used" or "open" stuff....
But for the price they seem like good deals.

The one I am most interested is this one :
B-stock Model PB12- NSD Black
Product ID: b-PB12-NSD-black
This is the old model PB12-NSD with the base plate
$450

That's way cheaper than the $569 new one with my discount for a return customer

Erik wrote to me: "Basically the differences are that the new PB12-NSD can play lower (18hz vs 22hz), louder (maybe a db or two) and has a little smoother frequency response. The differences are not night and day but they are noticeable. At $450 I think the b-stock item is a good deal even knowing the differences but of course that's a matter of personal opinion. "

I'm trying to stay around that $400 price tag of the NSD 10inch......but I'D LOVE to get the 12 because I know its performace would blow me away!


thoughts and opinions...(I like to remind people I am upgrading from a Cerwin Vega LW-12 that is 150Watts)

or I do have the option of a new PB10-NSD for $407

They basically took the lessons learned from their PB10 designs and incorporated all the improvements into the new PB12 design. You may not notice a lot of differences between the older 10 inchISD and the newer 10 inch NSD drivers, but you will between the older 12 inch ISD and the newer 12 inch NSD driver.
post #436 of 15593
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Originally Posted by billybob_jcv View Post

No - other than perhaps the pink noise may be exciting a room mode - does it happen no matter where you are in the room, or does it seem to vary in intensity as you walk around the room? Is it only with the sub channel, or is all channels?

Pink noise is bloody annoying - I can only run tests when my wife is out of the house or she gets PO'd - of course the fact that I was running test tones & freq sweeps for about a week straight when I first got the system *might* have something to do with her sensitivity...

It does'nt happen with the sub, just all other channels any where I'm in the room.
post #437 of 15593
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Originally Posted by ThomasV555 View Post

Lay off the guy. He gave his impression.............

Please DO NOT get mad at me, I just want to drop a line:

"CAN WE ALL JUST GET ALONG?"

Kev
post #438 of 15593
Here's my reply from another thread "But it sounds good and if the wife doesn't like it, well I can just turn it up and I can't here her anymore so problem solved."

And if that isn't your attitude you can just show her a pic of thisSUB and tell her that she can choose between it and the SVS.
post #439 of 15593
Do you have a garage?
post #440 of 15593
AHH I see, my mistake then. In your sub pics it looked so much like the kef dipolar rears from the reference cinema set.

very interected in those acoustic panels. I am considering some for the area covering first order of reflection off the mains but that really would be hijaking this thread so I will search the forum




[quote=DonnieW]It's not really off-topic as we're discussion how the SVS blends with existing speakers.

In my case, I don't own any KEF gear. The back half of my 7.1 system consists of 4 Paradigm Reference ADP 470's. You can kind of make them out in this shot from our analysis of acoustic panel placement.
post #441 of 15593
my wife's heavy into Home Interior stuff,etc. She's gonna hate having a 16-46 Plus in a corner lFortunately she's stuck getting used to two black JVS-7500 towers.


Are rubber mats the only real option in keeping pictures and various other forms of decoartions from sliding/falling?? Black rubber will not make my wife very happy.
post #442 of 15593
I have the SVS12isd and it is big. However, if you place marbel slab ontop of it you have a custom coffee table and the WAF will not be an issue////
db
post #443 of 15593
Here's a pic of my old Advent 8" sub along side of my New 25-31PCi SVS Subwoofer (tuned to 22hz). I'm loving it!!

post #444 of 15593
That is the strangest HT Room I have seen. The TV behind the SVS looks a little small.
post #445 of 15593
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Originally Posted by ransac View Post

That is the strangest HT Room I have seen. The TV behind the SVS looks a little small.

haha, cute

Cant take pictures in my HT room, to dark.
post #446 of 15593
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Originally Posted by suniil View Post

i'm using auralex gramma, where SVS sits peacefully

Curious if anyone here uses a SubDude with their PCU?

I notice the SubDude measures 15"x15" square and the PCU is 16" in diameter.

Does it fit okay?

Mike
post #447 of 15593
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Originally Posted by DrPainMD View Post

Here's a pic of my old Advent 8" sub along side of my New 25-31PCi SVS Subwoofer (tuned to 22hz). I'm loving it!!



OH dear lord! I'll never be able to gain approval from my wife!!!
post #448 of 15593
It's not that bad. That Advent is just really tiny.

Mike
post #449 of 15593
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Originally Posted by Cvetan1 View Post

Curious if anyone here uses a SubDude with their PCU?

I notice the SubDude measures 15"x15" square and the PCU is 16" in diameter.

Does it fit okay?

Mike

That only makes for a 1/2" overhang on each side.
post #450 of 15593
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Originally Posted by Cvetan1 View Post

It's not that bad. That Advent is just really tiny.

Mike

Yes it is, and thank goodness it's been replaced!
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