Official SVS Owners/Support Thread. - Page 145

If the engine of my car broke, I could take it to the dealer for repair. Subwoofers are a different animal. Internet Directs expect you to do the work. With that said, if you didn't the overall price would also be higher.

I don't think you will go wrong with any of the ones you list. Just be aware that extension down to 20hz is measured in a controlled environment and may not translate to your room. The PB10 is a great sub, but it is still a small entry level sub.

The ED's "abilities with music"... If a sub is good, it will play music or HT just as well. The only real difference you should look at is extension - music only systems normally don't have to go below 35hz.

Compared to other ID subs.

Gonna start tuning my pc-12 nsd , quick question to those who calibrated there subs with the rs spl meter, did you guys run the gain at 12 o clock or run it a little lower with more room for adjustment through the avr?

Thanks

depends on the room size, i try to run the gain as low as possible and keep the sub level on the avr as close to 0.0 as possible calibrated @ 72-74db with the rs meter...

Hi everyone. A noob trying to set up his first HT here. I got the below delivered and connected:

Denon 1610
Energy RC-10 fronts
Energy mini center
Energy mini surrounds
SVS Pb12-Plus
Samsung BD P3600

I just wanted to hear that monster of a bass first and put the movie 300. I liked the sound and moved on to running the Audyssey. After running the Audyssey it seemes like the bass went down dramatically (sorry for the lack of technical language).

The Gain on the sub is at 12 o'clock, the crossover is 80Hz, selected small speaker on my receiver and my room is 3600 cubic ft. I turn the Decibel "up" for my sub on the receiver to 10 or 12 so that I can get some thump. I know there is no "right" setting, but am I doing something wrong? I thought after running Audyssey, I would hear at least some bass.

One more thing, I hear the humming noise coming from the sub whenever I am changing channels, how do I get rid of that? I did not have this problem when I first received and connected the system. Did I mess something up??

First off send SVS a email or give them a call listing everything you have here because you'd probably have a fix or solution by now . I would say after running you run your Audyesey make sure it didnt change your speaker setting to large and if so move them back to small and make sure it didnt turn the volume on your sub level downto and recheck that also experiment with placement of your sub do a bass crawl and see were it sounds best . Plcement of your sub and the room can make a big difference and dont worry you have a great sub and im sure its just a matter of propper setup

First have a look at this setup guide - http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...5#post14456895

Make sure you follow the directions - read it twice. Most of the common mistakes are covered here.

Hi all,
Well I just received the sts-01, fronts, scs-01, center and pc 12-nsd sub. But now I need help with some in-ceiling speakers that will complement this system, My home configuration does not allow me to put up box or floor speakers. I did contact support at SVS , and they commented that some of their customers have used POLK"S but they didn't know the model #. Can anyone make a suggestion as to which model might work.

I have
Onkyo tx sr607

oppo BDP-83

Samsung LN55B650

Tivo HD XL

Thanks

What kind of budget do you have for the rears? Personally I would recommend going with something from the TCi series. It is timbre matched to the RTi line of Polks which IMO are their best series.

I was looking at them for the rears as well. So i will be looking at the Polk in ceiling TCi's.

Thanks

So are you going all in wall, or just the side surrounds & or rears?

Apologies if this is an old question, but I didn't want to search 145 pages of posts. I'm in the process of upgrading my old home theater setup (originally built around Infinity RS II's and now switching over to Klipsch RF-83's). I have an old SVS 20-39pc cylinder from the early days that I love and I haven't been following any of the new PCi, Plus, Ultra, etc., lines that have come out in the years between. The Klipsch forum people have a high regard for SVS, but they all have newer models than mine. So my question is whether any of the advancements would be noticeable or will the 20-39pc carry me along for a few more years?

The excitements builds....

Well I've had my PB-12+ for about 1.5 months. This was my first sub and is supplementing my Paradigm Studio speakers. When I first installed it, I thought I had it dialed in properly with an SPL meter. I was very happy with the sound. Nice tight bass, but not room shaking. I attributed to the fact that the floor was carpet over concrete.

A little over a week ago my 10 Yamaha receiver started acting up so I picked up a new Onkyo receiver. I ran Audyssey and holy crap did that make a difference. Popped in UP to watch with my three year old and some of the LFE were nuts even at lower volumes. Lighting strikes sounded like they were hitting the house. It was great to see my daughters eyes light up. Now she is asking that we play everything "loud" much to my wife's dismay. I have to go back and watch some of the other Blu-rays that I thought I was really hearing bass in the past month.

I'm running a 4 year old +/2. Even though the newer models may be a bit louder and a bit cleaner, certainly not enough for me to replace my sub. When/if my sub dies, then I'll look at replacements. Until then, like you, I am quite happy with what I have.

I just sold my PB2/PLUS of over 4 years. I purchased the PB13-ULTRA. After a proper setup, I will never look back. Even the entry level subs perform better then the old look around the internet. Trickle down technology.
My PB2/PLUS would literally shake the house. It was great for movies,but so-so for music. Now the PB13-ULTRA is much better in every way. One 13.5 in woofer with 750 watts, kicks butt on Two 12.1 in woofers with 900 watts.
An upgrade now for you , like mine will be night and day.You will notice alot more low end bass with the new subs. I am finding lows I never knew were there. A distant rumble, is now an in your face experience.Alot of new music and new movies are really getting down and dirty in the LFE department. You will be suprised at how much of that you a missing now.
You will notice a hugh difference. The graphs only tell half the story. I was nervous at first, but then you get down right impressed.
I say go for a new PC12-PLUS or the PC13-ULTRA if cylinders are your bag. Though I highly recommend a boxed sub, ported of course. You will not regret it one bit.

Hi Folks,
I've been a member and reader of this forum for years, but rarely post. However, I'd like input from the members here on my current setup and upgrade options. I currently own a PB-12 plus/2 running with a Hsu MBM-12. It sounds great as is (calibrated with Audysey). My room size is 15x22. Ceiling hight is 9ft in half the room and 18ft in the other half. I am considering buying a second plus/2, but wonder if upgrading the drivers in my current one makes more sense. My speakers are Paradigm S4's (main), C3, and SA-35's for surrounds and rears. I just have "upgrade-itis"; and wonder if my very good base can be better. Your opinions are apprecieated. Thanks.

Rudy

I thought the PB12-Plus/2 is no longer available unless a used unit.

Btw, watched The Hurt Locker few days ago. The opening scene whereby the bomb being detonated is awesomely low deep bass that the PB13-Ultra literally shook my whole room. I must say that the BD audio recording is mostly getting better with each new releases. The firepower of the 50 cal during the desert ambush by sniper is worth mentioning too. Can feel the deep powerful LFE.

The upgrade from PC12-Plus to PB13-Ultra is definitely worth. Now, I am enjoying my movies even more than before. The Ultra is truly a beast; in size and performance.

I was going to do the same thing with my PB2/PLUS. SVS qouted a price of 399.99 for 2 new plus drivers for my box. They explained it would be more of an incremental improvement than an outright upgrade. So if you are on a budget then it might be worth it. I chose to wait and do an all out upgrade to a PB13-ULTRA. It is night and day between the two.
If you go with dual plus/2s it will more of the same. If you sell your current sub( I sold my 4+ year old PB2/PLUS for $750.00 plus shipping!) and you use your current sub-funds to do a full upgrade, you will be much happier. I say get a PB13-ULTRA. You will hear things you never knew were there. Trust me.


Also the PB13-ULTRA is much more musical then the PLUS based subs. You will love it!

Thanks very much for the insight on the upgrade to the PB-13 ultra. I've heard nothing but praise for that sub, but I did not think it would represent a night/day improvement over the plus/2-- more to consider! Thanks.

I'm just jumping into home theater for the first time. I have a large room of about 3400 cubic feet that will be my TV viewing room, and it's got an open archway into the kitchen (another roughly 2k cubic feet) and open hallway. I was originally thinking of the SBS 5.1 package with the PB12-NSD, but there is a local sale on at PB2 Ultra that has me thinking hard if I can swing the extra 400 or so I'd need. Any recommendations?

Spend the extra amount if you can and get the pb12 plus, the NSD is a great sub but its a entry level sub and you should be very happy with the plus. Also in the future if you feel its not enough you can always get duals. Currently im running the PB13 Ultra and a PB12 Plus and im in LFE heaven

Go with the new stuff. A single PB12-NSD will go lower that the PB2/ULTRA. I recently sold my PB2/PLUS, and went to SVS for advice. In that advice they stated that a single driver will go lower then two drivers sharing the same enclosure. They said dual PB12-NSDs would give my PB2/PLUS a run for it's money high to mid, and whoop it down low.
So I headed for dual PB12-NSDs at first. Then decided on the PB13-ULTRA, after a gracious donation from dear ol Uncle Sam cleverly disguised tax return. So having been where you are go for either the Dual PB12-NSDs or the PB13-ULTRA and wait for the expensive main speakers. You can get out of this world deals on Polk's infamous Monitors series speakers right now.Also like TheFactor stated the PB12-PLUS is another good choice, though it still does not explore the depths as much as the other two. Anyway you go, you will be impressed with what is SVS.
Remember tech trickles down, so today's entry level it yesterday's top of the line, or pretty close.
Also with the new ones you get a great three year warranty from guys that give outstanding customer service.

My mistake I thought he was talking about the new p12 plus but with that being said I would still go with a single PB12 Plus. I have a Ultra pb13 and just added THE NEW PB12 PLUS TO THE MIX And I am amazed how well it keeps up with my Ultra. I've also had a pb12nsd before upgrading to the Ultra and I must say I would take a single pb12 plus all day long over two pb12 nsd's with the plan of running duals eventualy. Im sure one single pb12 plus will keep you smiling for a long time

So you are impling I lay down more hard earned cash to further my bass needs? So now I should buy a PB12-PLUS? Sir you are shameless. Plus the wife will kill me.....
And seriously, the Plus keeps up with the Ultra? Are you talking upper, mid , or lower regions?:
Now you have me thinking I should have bought two Plus subs for alittle over $2000.00. I mean the Ultra ran me 1700.00 with shipping....


Also heisenberg TheFactor is right. These things last, I had my last SVS sub for 4.5 years without so much as a hicup. Really good stuff. Also check out the SVS web site. On each sub they present a chart that graphs out the sub performance. Here you will see the big picture between what subs you are looking at. You can also find a chart on the PB2/ULTRA here http://www.svsound.com/products-sub-box-ultra2.cfm

Here you will see that the PB13-ULTRA, PB12-PLUS and the lowly PB12-NSD go way lower then the PB2/ULTRA.

I think TheFactor is intimidate by te PB12-NSD's massive four inch port. Two of these ports is two thirds the port area of our subs. That alot of port...

So you think that for surrounds, the Polk is the way to go? I'll have to check out that. I'd been just shopping the SVS surrounds, but am definitely open to others if there is a price/performance benefit or prettier surrounds without a decline in sound quality. I'm very much a newbie on this, but I was brought up with my Dad's old Allison One's and can appreciate a nice set of speakers.

Sorry keep in mind my results are for my room applications and will vary, also no graphs here either just the good old two ear listening graphs Guess what im trying to say is I didnt expect as much of a gain by adding the pb12 plus with my Ultra as I've experienced. The Ultra is a different animal and in a class of its own. Dont worry you've spent your money wisely I just was really impressed with how well this pb12 plus performs. Basically I just wanted to spread the bass out threw out my room and to my surprise not only did I get that along with nice low volume clean bass. I dont think the plus digs as deep for the subsonic bass you know bass you can feel before you hear it but adding the two together the plus and the Ultra is simply amazing

Just my two cents. I have heard Axioms, Paradigm, Definitive. B&W. All are great. But for me the balance between performance and value is king. I always spread my funds out quasi equally. Fro the money the Polks are outstanding. The have a ton of detail.
What are you using for your main?