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post #5881 of 10623
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Originally Posted by JAMES MCHUGHES View Post

I just bought a used PB12-NSD subwoofer but the guy forget to put the power cord in the box when shipped. Is there a certain power cord I need to use for my sub ?

Hi Ransac
Any suggestions here on a cord i was told it came with a 8 ft 14 guage cord what did yours come with
post #5882 of 10623
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Originally Posted by JAMES MCHUGHES View Post

Hi Ransac
Any suggestions here on a cord i was told it came with a 8 ft 14 guage cord what did yours come with

Not really sure how do dial in this PB12-NSD sub with all these controls
post #5883 of 10623
Hi,
I'm looking for a new sub and the SVS PC12-NSD seems to be the one. But I would like to know what extras i would gett if I buy the PC12-PLUS version? Is it worth of the extra money? Is there something else better than the power of the sub(bigger and more powerfull)?
post #5884 of 10623
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Originally Posted by JAMES MCHUGHES View Post

Hi Ransac
Any suggestions here on a cord i was told it came with a 8 ft 14 Gage cord what did yours come with

The same. I think all the SVS subs come with the heavy gage power cord. It really isn't needed, but it doesn't hurt. It just eliminates the possibility that you are not able to deliver the needed current to the sub's power supply when it needs to go all out. The power cords that come with a PC are fine (18AWG, you can find 16), but you can check Radio Shack, Best Buy, or Home Depot to see if they have the heavier gage cords. Or find one on line or ask SVS for a replacement or have the seller ship the one that came with the sub. It was his mistake not to ship it with the sub.
post #5885 of 10623
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Originally Posted by JAMES MCHUGHES View Post

Not really sure how do dial in this PB12-NSD sub with all these controls

Set the gain to about the 10:00 position. Set Phase to 0, crossover switch to disabled. Connect the sub/lfe out from your receiver to the left or right low level in on the sub.

On the receiver, set all speaker channels to small, sub to yes, crossover to 80 (or whatever), if you have it set the LPF for LFE to it's highest value.

Run the auto speaker setup on the receiver, then use an SPL meter and the test tones from the receiver to set the channel levels to taste. Usually 75dB on the speakers and 78dB on the sub. Now you're at a good starting point to tweak to taste.
post #5886 of 10623
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Originally Posted by Zeiri View Post

Hi,
I'm looking for a new sub and the SVS PC12-NSD seems to be the one. But I would like to know what extras i would get if I buy the PC12-PLUS version? Is it worth of the extra money? Is there something else better than the power of the sub(bigger and more powerful)?

Now is a confusing time to make this decision. Amps and prices are changing. There is some discrepancies on the web site (the PC-NSD says new amp, but the site still shows the Bash amp).

Best to discuss this with SVS until all the new information is fully disseminated.

Traditionally, the Plus has more finish options, variable tuning, more power, better driver. Is this worth what looks like will be almost 2x the price of the NSD? That's up to you.
post #5887 of 10623
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Originally Posted by ransac View Post

Set the gain to about the 10:00 position. Set Phase to 0, crossover switch to disabled. Connect the sub/lfe out from your receiver to the left or right low level in on the sub.

On the receiver, set all speaker channels to small, sub to yes, crossover to 80 (or whatever), if you have it set the LPF for LFE to it's highest value.

Run the auto speaker setup on the receiver, then use an SPL meter and the test tones from the receiver to set the channel levels to taste. Usually 75dB on the speakers and 78dB on the sub. Now you're at a good starting point to tweak to taste.

Ransac,
Thx for the info it sounds like thats pretty much where im at on the settings and I do have the seller sending me the original but im in doubt with it he said the cord was like 3 feet long. I think I will call SVS and have them send me a replacement
post #5888 of 10623
I don't know if anyone noticed this but their website has been updated. Ultra13 with sledge 1000w amp. I wonder what the difference would be, probably not much. But a digital amps is nice.
post #5889 of 10623
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Originally Posted by Hksvr4 View Post

I don't know if anyone noticed this but their website has been updated. Ultra13 with sledge 1000w amp. I wonder what the difference would be, probably not much. But a digital amps is nice.

No more amp issues that were seen with Bash, knowing where gain is REALLY set, limiters and filters set to the ragged edge and then left just inside of idiot proof, all stuff impossible with the BASH amps.

These are not the first amps with LCD displays, but they ARE the first ones to fully implement full blown pro-level power and DSP tuning on the consumer marketplace AFAIK.

I for one, will be upgrading both of my PB13U's so I will give a full report .
post #5890 of 10623
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Originally Posted by ParadigmDawg View Post

No more amp issues that were seen with Bash, knowing where gain is REALLY set, limiters and filters set to the ragged edge and then left just inside of idiot proof, all stuff impossible with the BASH amps.

These are not the first amps with LCD displays, but they ARE the first ones to fully implement full blown pro-level power and DSP tuning on the consumer marketplace AFAIK.

I for one, will be upgrading both of my PB13U's so I will give a full report .

You already have purchased them?
post #5891 of 10623
I'm leaning toward upgrading my amp as well. I don't see myself getting rid of the PB13 for a long, long time and it might as well be at it's best, as long as the new amp is not prohibitively expensive.
post #5892 of 10623
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Originally Posted by croseiv View Post

You already have purchased them?

They are not yet available as upgrades but it's getting close.
post #5893 of 10623
Dang, maybe I should have waited, I got my PB12-Plus with the Bash amp last week.
post #5894 of 10623
I got my ultra last week too , sent an email to svs for exchange my amp. I think I have to pay more for new amp ( they increase price with new amp). Man I check my emails every 5 minute. Just like a big boy waiting mom come home with new toy
post #5895 of 10623
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Originally Posted by Juan View Post

Dang, maybe I should have waited, I got my PB12-Plus with the Bash amp last week.

I think it's $100 for the sledge amp. I have an Epik Dragon and wondered if the SB13 would make a difference. If not, then I see an Ultra13 in my room in the near future.
post #5896 of 10623
Just FYI. I asked Jack if these new amps would be made available for existing PB13 Ultra Bash owners to upgrade, and how much of an improvement would be realized?

Here is Jack's reply from late July 2010:

"[SVS - JackG] There will be new Ultra amps later this year and they'll be a drop-in replacement for the current amps. Final pricing hasn't been set but they won't be cheap as they're more expensive than the current amps to make. It certainly won't obsolete the current amps, though, and the performance difference (from an absolute SPL standpoint) will be very similar."



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Originally Posted by ParadigmDawg View Post

No more amp issues that were seen with Bash, knowing where gain is REALLY set, limiters and filters set to the ragged edge and then left just inside of idiot proof, all stuff impossible with the BASH amps.

These are not the first amps with LCD displays, but they ARE the first ones to fully implement full blown pro-level power and DSP tuning on the consumer marketplace AFAIK.

I for one, will be upgrading both of my PB13U's so I will give a full report .
post #5897 of 10623
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Originally Posted by Hksvr4 View Post

I think it's $100 for the sledge amp.

Plus a 5% discount for returning customers.
post #5898 of 10623
We are not close to offering an upgrade program yet. All of the Sledge amps in-house are dedicated to new subwoofer builds. When more amps are in-house and supply catches up with demand, we'll launch the upgrade program.

The current introductory pricing for the Ultra subwoofers with the Sledge amp is signficantly under MSRP and won't last long-term. So the price differential between current Sledge-equipped subs and the previous BASH-equipped subs should not be construed or assumed to be the eventual upgrade price for a Sledge amp - these amps are very expensive.

We haven't worked out all the details yet, but we'll likely have a multi-tier pricing structure which takes into account how recently the subwoofer was purchased, with very recent purchasers getting the most preferential pricing.
post #5899 of 10623
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Originally Posted by ParadigmDawg View Post

They are not yet available as upgrades but it's getting close.

***then I want to change my answer to "not getting close"...
post #5900 of 10623
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Originally Posted by Ed Mullen View Post

We haven't worked out all the details yet, but we'll likely have a multi-tier pricing structure which takes into account how recently the subwoofer was purchased, with very recent purchasers getting the most preferential pricing.

Please work *quantity* into the multi-tier pricing structure as well...
post #5901 of 10623
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Originally Posted by counsil View Post

Please work *quantity* into the multi-tier pricing structure as well...

Great! Maybe I can piggyback on your group buy.
post #5902 of 10623
If you return ultra How much you have to pay for return shipping ? Thanks
post #5903 of 10623
I just bought mine so I am going to be looking for a free upgrade.
post #5904 of 10623
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Originally Posted by DenonLover View Post

I just bought mine so I am going to be looking for a free upgrade.

Why free when you know there is a price increase.
post #5905 of 10623
They just sent me an email , they won't exchange new amp even I bought 12 days ago and I want pay more for new amp.
post #5906 of 10623
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Originally Posted by robber616 View Post

They just sent me an email , they won't exchange new amp even I bought 12 days ago and I want pay more for new amp.

Last time I checked, businesses don't make money by giving things away. When you bought your sub, that was the amp that came with it. You could have waited if you wanted the new amp so bad. Why do you expect them to give you a free amp? Is your current amp defective?
post #5907 of 10623
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Originally Posted by clrv View Post

Why free when you know there is a price increase.

I did not know there was a price increase. I guess I am getting to this party late.
post #5908 of 10623
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Originally Posted by robber616 View Post

They just sent me an email , they won't exchange new amp even I bought 12 days ago and I want pay more for new amp.

Did you know the new amp was coming out?
post #5909 of 10623
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Originally Posted by DenonLover View Post

I did not know there was a price increase. I guess I am getting to this party late.

The prices have gone up with the new amps, and it looks like they will go up even more after the introductory period is over.
post #5910 of 10623
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Originally Posted by Ed Mullen View Post

We haven't worked out all the details yet, but we'll likely have a multi-tier pricing structure which takes into account how recently the subwoofer was purchased, with very recent purchasers getting the most preferential pricing.

I need to just breathe. Whatever it is going to be I will pay it and I am sure it will be fair. Thank you for this update.
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