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post #7741 of 10587
6/2/12 at 1:09am
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Pardon my French, I am also from Quebec.
But sometime my speling is not perfect, I take no offence since it it the only way to learn.

Same thing here. Even though my english is probably somewhat shaky sometimes, it's amazing how much I learnt by reading and writing in forums. Anyway, as I said, "tactical" invokes images of doors kicked or blown open for me, so I'd say a tactical sub is a compelling description. I can just picture the SWAT team scratching their heads: "How will we be able to open this door captain?" "Watch and learn, son" *proceeds to set up a PC13-Ultra*.


This is why, most of us are on this site. Learn and past our knowledge on to others

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post #7742 of 10587
6/2/12 at 1:21am
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Hi Guys

Does anyone remember what the MSRP was on the older PB-12 Plus from 2010 with the Bash amp? I know a guy selling one, and i'm not sure if his pricing is off. I've seen quite a few for sale the last few months and guys seem to have a tough time moving the Bash models.

Hard to say, a PB2 was $1200.00US but in Canada end-up to be $2100.00CDN after shipping and broker. Once they got a Canadian dealer, the price was $1600 plus shipping and tax, and still came to $1950. Pretty close.
The bigest thing is I never regret my purchase.

Ray
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post #7743 of 10587
6/2/12 at 1:41am
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Just get the PB13 it will make you feel better.

Hahahaha. I think I might just do that! I was just curious on the comparisons! If the Ultra is way better or just slightly?



I would say slightly
I do not know about the new PB12Plus compaire to a PB12Plus/2.
But for me between the PB12Plus/2 and the Ultra was about 5%. I call-it, chasing the White Rabbit

Ray
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post #7744 of 10587
6/2/12 at 5:00am
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Hahahaha. I think I might just do that! I was just curious on the comparisons! If the Ultra is way better or just slightly?

its a 3-4db increase across all fequencies. its easily worth it if you want that output. especially the liquidation price.
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post #7745 of 10587
6/2/12 at 5:28am
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Good stuff! I saw the driver to the pb 12plus today and it is huge
How do you like the finish? It looked sharp in the pics.

Very nice. The Piano Black sealed the deal for me. Not a mark on it anywhere. I may have to move it behind the sofa, wife thinks it looks silly up front.
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post #7746 of 10587
6/2/12 at 5:31am
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PSBMAN



Hard to say, a PB2 was $1200.00US but in Canada end-up to be $2100.00CDN after shipping and broker. Once they got a Canadian dealer, the price was $1600 plus shipping and tax, and still came to $1950. Pretty close.
The bigest thing is I never regret my purchase.

Ray

It was never 2100.00 CDN. I'm almost positive Sonicboom had it on for 1399.00 at the time. And shipping is a non-issue as they are only a 35min drive away.
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post #7747 of 10587
6/2/12 at 9:47am
....should i get 1 or 2 of the PB12-NSD's?....here is my situation....14'x15'x8' w/ plastered walls ( not drywall) and plastered ceiling...carpeted floor over wood above a basement....one 36" arched opening (no door)...Reciever is Pio vsx-1122 7.2...speakers are 4x~fs-51 lr...1x~c21...listening to 75% HT-movies/TV, 25% music...thanks for any help!
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post #7748 of 10587
6/2/12 at 10:47am
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....should i get 1 or 2 of the PB12-NSD's?....here is my situation....14'x15'x8' w/ plastered walls ( not drywall) and plastered ceiling...carpeted floor over wood above a basement....one 36" arched opening (no door)...Reciever is Pio vsx-1122 7.2...speakers are 4x~fs-51 lr...1x~c21...listening to 75% HT-movies/TV, 25% music...thanks for any help!

Hay there Beerhunt.

I think you would be very happy with a single pb12nsd, I forget the exact size of my room and the space connected to them, about 18x23 feet and I have a stairwell that leads from the basement to the main floor etc.

I found a single had nsd had enough power 95% of the time but I just added a second one last night (I havent even calibrated it yet)

I know SVS will give you a discount on a second sub, I got 5% off my second purchase and it was 6 months apart.

PM me if you have any other questions, Im off all weekend
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post #7749 of 10587
6/2/12 at 12:43pm
PSBMAN

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PSBMAN



Hard to say, a PB2 was $1200.00US but in Canada end-up to be $2100.00CDN after shipping and broker. Once they got a Canadian dealer, the price was $1600 plus shipping and tax, and still came to $1950. Pretty close.
The bigest thing is I never regret my purchase.

Ray

It was never 2100.00 CDN. I'm almost positive Sonicboom had it on for 1399.00 at the time. And shipping is a non-issue as they are only a 35min drive away.

When I bought this one the price $1200 US, our dollar was about low $.70, the shipping was from the US and you got tag with a nice brockeage fee.

Ray
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post #7750 of 10587
6/2/12 at 1:01pm
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PSBMAN



When I bought this one the price $1200 US, our dollar was about low $.70, the shipping was from the US and you got tag with anice brockeage fee.

Ray

Why buy from SVS direct when you could've saved a few hundred ordering from Sonicboom? They have been an SVS dealer since October 2005. Great bunch of guys. And top notch customer service.
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post #7751 of 10587
6/2/12 at 3:55pm
I was wondering if anyone can compare the Paradigm DSP 3200/DSP3400 Subs to the SVS PB13-Ultra?? I have the Paradigm DSP3400 up front and the 3200 in the back and was wondering if there is a huge improvement from my current setup to say selling the 3200, moving the 3400 to the back and putting a SVS Ultra up to the front sound-stage??????? Would it be worth the $ to do so?? Any info greatly appreciated!
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post #7752 of 10587
6/2/12 at 4:25pm
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I was wondering if anyone can compare the Paradigm DSP 3200/DSP3400 Subs to the SVS PB13-Ultra?? I have the Paradigm DSP3400 up front and the 3200 in the back and was wondering if there is a huge improvement from my current setup to say selling the 3200, moving the 3400 to the back and putting a SVS Ultra up to the front sound-stage??????? Would it be worth the $ to do so?? Any info greatly appreciated!


I had the DSP-3400. I LOVED it. In fact, if i hadn't got such a good deal on my PB12 Plus, i would've coughed up the cash for a new 3400 again.
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post #7753 of 10587
6/2/12 at 4:36pm
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I had the DSP-3400. I LOVED it. In fact, if i hadn't got such a good deal on my PB12 Plus, i would've coughed up the cash for a new 3400 again.

Whats the PB12 Plus compared to the 3400???????
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post #7754 of 10587
6/2/12 at 6:13pm
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Whats the PB12 Plus compared to the 3400???????


Hard to say. It's been a while since i've owned the 3400. Best i can remember, it's pretty close. I wish i could do an A/B
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post #7755 of 10587
6/2/12 at 6:45pm
PSBMAN

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PSBMAN



When I bought this one the price $1200 US, our dollar was about low $.70, the shipping was from the US and you got tag with anice brockeage fee.

Ray

Why buy from SVS direct when you could've saved a few hundred ordering from Sonicboom? They have been an SVS dealer since October 2005. Great bunch of guys. And top notch customer service.
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Because, when I did purchase that sub, Sonicboom was not a dealer yet!!!
The drivers were the original 12.1, then SVS offer to change them to the 12.3 version for $100.00 ea (about 2-3 years later)for the original owner and I went for it just to match the second one witch I got from Sonicboom ( great service by the way).

Ray
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post #7756 of 10587
6/2/12 at 9:13pm
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Originally Posted by Stylz25 View Post

I was wondering if anyone can compare the Paradigm DSP 3200/DSP3400 Subs to the SVS PB13-Ultra?? I have the Paradigm DSP3400 up front and the 3200 in the back and was wondering if there is a huge improvement from my current setup to say selling the 3200, moving the 3400 to the back and putting a SVS Ultra up to the front sound-stage??????? Would it be worth the $ to do so?? Any info greatly appreciated!

I would say it would be HUGE improvement if you did that.

The DSP3400 would be comparable to the PB12-NSD.
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post #7757 of 10587
6/3/12 at 5:34am
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Originally Posted by warpdrive View Post

I would say it would be HUGE improvement if you did that.

The DSP3400 would be comparable to the PB12-NSD.


Maybe on paper.

But i had the PB12-NSD for about 5 days, and i sent it back for the PC12-PLUS. The Paradigm DSP-3400 was a step up from the PB12-NSD imo. It just didn't have the output that the 3400 had.

There is no doubt the PB13-ULTRA is the way to go. If i could free up the coin. i'd have one.
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post #7758 of 10587
6/3/12 at 6:25am
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Originally Posted by PSBMAN View Post

Maybe on paper.

But i had the PB12-NSD for about 5 days, and i sent it back for the PC12-PLUS. The Paradigm DSP-3400 was a step up from the PB12-NSD imo. It just didn't have the output that the 3400 had.


I'd be surprised if the 3400 actually has a lot more overall output especially in the 20-30Hz range. When I auditioned all the Paradigm subs, the 3400 rolled off very quickly below 25Hz in-room without PBK.
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post #7759 of 10587
6/3/12 at 6:48am
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I'd be surprised if the 3400 actually has a lot more overall output especially in the 20-30Hz range. When I auditioned all the Paradigm subs, the 3400 rolled off very quickly below 25Hz in-room without PBK.


Ummmm....

It's possible the 3400 just seemed louder, as i only had my ears and no way to measure the output. Also, the PB12-NSD was new and not broken in like the 3400. I'm not sure how much of a difference that would make, but i would think the 3400 had an advantage being broken in.

In the end, i ended up with the PB12-PLUS and i'm very happy. Though i will always wonder how much better the Ultra would be........some day i'll get one.
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post #7760 of 10587
6/3/12 at 7:27am
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Maybe on paper.

But i had the PB12-NSD for about 5 days, and i sent it back for the PC12-PLUS. The Paradigm DSP-3400 was a step up from the PB12-NSD imo. It just didn't have the output that the 3400 had.

There is no doubt the PB13-ULTRA is the way to go. If i could free up the coin. i'd have one.

how does sub A have more output than sub B in ground plane measurements and not in a room?
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post #7761 of 10587
6/3/12 at 7:34am
...Where is the best place to buy a PB12-NSD?
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post #7762 of 10587
6/3/12 at 7:48am
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...Where is the best place to buy a PB12-NSD?

US = svsound.com

Canada = sonicboomaudio.com
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post #7763 of 10587
6/3/12 at 7:49am
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...Where is the best place to buy a PB12-NSD?

SVS directly if you are in the the States or Sonicboom if you are in Canada.
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post #7764 of 10587
6/3/12 at 8:24am
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...Where is the best place to buy a PB12-NSD?

There is one at SVS on the outlet specials at $629.00

If you don't mind some cosmetic issues on it. Here is the link:

http://www.svsound.com/outlet-specia...&category_id=5
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post #7765 of 10587
6/3/12 at 8:44am
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Originally Posted by PSBMAN View Post

Maybe on paper.

But i had the PB12-NSD for about 5 days, and i sent it back for the PC12-PLUS. The Paradigm DSP-3400 was a step up from the PB12-NSD imo. It just didn't have the output that the 3400 had.

There is no doubt the PB13-ULTRA is the way to go. If i could free up the coin. i'd have one.

My 3400 is one amazing sub! I am so curious on the SVS and if I am missing out!!
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post #7766 of 10587
6/3/12 at 8:49am
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Originally Posted by Stylz25 View Post

My 3400 is one amazing sub! I am so curious on the SVS and if I am missing out!!

like Warpdrive mentioned, i would put the DSP 3400 in the same performance category as the pb12-NSD. the ultra is two steps above that so there is quite a difference. wether your missing out depends on what kind of measurable performance your getting in your room now and your listening habits.
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post #7767 of 10587
6/3/12 at 10:08am
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There is one at SVS on the outlet specials at $629.00

If you don't mind some cosmetic issues on it. Here is the link:

http://www.svsound.com/outlet-specia...&category_id=5

...wow! crt thats $140 less than the reg price! Should I get two of these to avoid price increases?...reason is, is that I may move into a bigger home/room within 3-4 yrs...heres my current room/needs.....14'x15'x8'..plastered walls/ceilings (not drywall), over basement, carpet over wood floors, 36" doorway ( no door)...75% HT/movies-TV...25% music...BUT I don't want to spend money needlessly!...thanks for your help anyone!
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post #7768 of 10587
6/3/12 at 12:25pm
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...wow! crt thats $140 less than the reg price! Should I get two of these to avoid price increases?...reason is, is that I may move into a bigger home/room within 3-4 yrs...heres my current room/needs.....14'x15'x8'..plastered walls/ceilings (not drywall), over basement, carpet over wood floors, 36" doorway ( no door)...75% HT/movies-TV...25% music...BUT I don't want to spend money needlessly!...thanks for your help anyone!

There is only one right now (I believe). So, if indeed that is the sub that you have in mind in first place, then go ahead and buy it. Looks like a great opportunity. I guess you already check pics and comments on the cosmetic condition of the sub and you don't have issues with that.

I'm not expert, but my understanding is that for a room like yours the PB12 will be just great. But of course, you don't want to make your decision on a random person (me), so I would encourage you to contact SVS directly. Yes....they are open right now (Sunday's afternoon), you can use the direct chat or call them directly. For sure, they will provide a more educated advise based on your current room, setup and needs.

Once again, based on what you posted so far, I think the PB12-NSD will be great for your HT and later (when you have your dedicated room) you can add a second one. As you mentioned no need to spend money now or go crazy with something you don't need.

My two cents!
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post #7769 of 10587
6/3/12 at 6:06pm
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Originally Posted by beerhunt View Post

...Where is the best place to buy a PB12-NSD?

There's a used one on Audiogon being sold at a decent price.
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post #7770 of 10587
6/3/12 at 7:06pm
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There's a used one on Audiogon being sold at a decent price.

Or, if you live near Austin, TX....then go ahead and check Craiglist....no affiliation!
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