Official SVS Owners/Support Thread. - Page 288

exaclty the reasoning I wanted to hear!! thanks!! looks like I will be pulling the trigger on this today then! its a no-brainer really

Ill let you knowhow it goes

I'm not sure at all when I'll pull the trigger myself but I'd really like your feedback and comparison of the PB12 vs the SB12...

Just hit send!!

my order is in the books...now just to get it here

cant believe i did this so fast haha. i will definatly let you know if there is a major difference! I sure hope so!!

Well congrats -- and report back here as soon as you can. Would be fun if it got home before the weekend

Just received my 2nd pc13ultra to go with my 4 year old pc13ultra, eager to see how the bash and sledge amps play together. Big thanks to sonicboom once again for the awesome customer service. Sub arrived with a damaged base plate, Mason w/ sonic has another on it's way. Having 2 of these beasts in my 23 x 14 theater room should sound amazing, now to put one in front and one in rear or both up front will be the next test. Oh, once my theater is finished of course.

Wow -- two Ultras in a room barely bigger than mine, that would be out of this world I guess. Labeling my options for duals, those were: the overkill option (dual PB12-NSDs); the insane option (dual Pluses); I was not considering the bats**t crazy option at all

I'm really interested in your setup as if I don't come to my senses I may very well go the insane way and order dual PC12-Pluses. But I have lots of lingering questions pertaining to positioning (I heard good things about putting both of them in the front but wouldn't it make more sense to have one in the front and one in the back, perhaps on opposite sides?), tuning (do you run them tuned at 20 Hz or lower?), etc.

Also I'm glad everything went well with SBA. Will Mason simply ship you another baseplate or will you have to swap the entire sub?

Anyway please test it as soon as you can and report back.

He's just sending a new plate and ill install. I am a few months away from theater being finished but will post results and comments when i am done calibrating.

So you'll refrain from testing out your new dual setups for *months*?
Yeah right, post as soon as you finish watching your favorite scenes this weekend

So I just got my PB12-NSD and I am completely psyched to hook it up.

Problem is I dont know how

This is the Kind of Cable I have for example (I actually dont own this monster brand)

My old sub had one input for this cable but I see multiple RCA Inputs on the back of my SVS and am confused.

http://www.interstatemusic.com/833865-Monster-MC-400SW-2M-High-Performance-Subwoofer-Cable-2m-127626.aspx?sku=VTV127626&source=Google+Base_CASCIO&source=Google+Base_Cascio&utm_source=google&utm_medium=product&utm_campaign=gbase&gclid=CLanyNv0nLMCFcRU4AodMycADA

Here is the back

http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/6075/svsuk9.jpg

Straight forward stuff. Plug one end of your cable into the AVR sub-out and the other end into either of the subwoofer "in"; red or white. Flip the on switch and you're good to go.

When I purchased my first PC in 1982, I didn't know how to stick the 5 1/4" floppy into the floppy disk drive bay. Do'h!

Haha. I feel like a dope but I was home at lunch, unpackaged the bad boy and suddenly, "CONFUSED FACE"

That's why I shared my PC story. Happens to all of us. "Dah, which way did da go George?"

Just use the SVS quick start guide as Beeman isn't quite telling the whole story, but any good RCA cable will do, it doesn't need to be specific to subs, just of sufficient gauge and length for your use. Both inputs are generally not the same, not sure about this sub but seems the left is the one to use in the SVS QUICK START GUIDE http://www.svsound.com/images/svs/doclibrary/qsg_all_nsd_models_rev1.pdf

So, did you manage to test it? What do you think of it? If you need additional help setting it up don't hesitate to ask, though the quick start guide is certainly a good reference.

As for RCA cables, any will do but you may want to choose a shielded one (for A/V use). The reason for this is any long run of cable can pick up slowly-varying electromagnetic fields (e.g. coming from the power lines or appliances), and you don't want that added the sub signal prior to amplification, as the PB12 will happily reproduce 60 Hz line noise and also anything down to below 20 Hz, including EM noise coming from rotating devices (microwave platter, dishwasher, dryer, etc.). In SVS subs I think either input will do, the two inputs are simply summed internally.

still no shipping confirmation on my ob12 doesnt look good for tomorrow delivery

I was half-joking -- having it for the weekend would certainly have a pleasant surprise but you should be able to wait 2-3 days aren't you

I've been looking at pictures of the PC12-Plus in various settings. Wow. It looks *huge* in some pictures, but very manageable in others. It really depends on the rest of the furniture and the size of the room I guess. Maybe I should think about ordering a single one first. Maybe I could mix a cylinder and a box: best of both worlds I'm really in a situation where the Plus would fit what I want to try but I'm afraid of how to manage it in my diminutive room.

I know I know, but I pulled the trigger as early as possible yesterday with hopes it would have been shipped same day (as was my sb12) ah well...guess i will have to wait until the start of next week barring no hurricane hitting hahah

yeah I actually measured it out yesterday for just the pb12...man its so much bigger than my sb12...the wife is gonna kill me. oh well. Her fault...she said "its your money you can do what you want" (its winnings from a poker session too haha) so I went for it without describing it to her, just told her "its bigger" than the current sub. I really hope its head and shoulders above the sb12 which i really think it will and am excited.

I do envy your ability to get the plus but that thing is in fact huge...just the fact its shipped on a pallet tells ya something haha.

but the finishes on it will make it a piece of furniture...good luck!

EDIT JUST got he confirmation!! but no timetable yet! super excited!!

Just tell her it's actually the *smaller one* (that is bigger than your current one).

I'm not sure I have the "ability" as you said. Basically my GF said to get what I want but she assumes I'll get something that I can actually fit in the living room. Financially, it's possible, but every expense has an option cost associated to it. I could buy lots of stuff with that money -- new reciever, in-ceiling speakers for the kitchen... Hell I could buy a very nice L-shaped couch for our crowded living room. But what use would that be *without* dual Pluses?

The finish is nice on the PB12-Plus but it's so massive I think I should really head towards PCs. That would save me a bit of money also. A single one would do everything I want except try out duals. May be I should postpone getting duals and simply enjoy what a single Plus can do. It would be much more easier to justify and position in the room.

GONNA BE HERE TUESDAY! gahhhh cant wait haha.

See if it changes your opinion of Prometheus

yeah I have a LOT of movies to rewatch haha

Exactly what did... re-watched all the 5 star movies in my collection.

What a brave new world that has such a Master List in it, amirite?

Is it best to let the A/V receiver set the sub lpf or set it on my PB-12 plus. Currently the lpf on the sub is set to disable or bypass. My receiver has Audyssey multeq XT and it set my lpf of lfe to 120hz. I have RTI A9's towers, CSI A6 center and FXI A6 surrounds are all set at 40hz. Just wondering if I need to change these values or leave it how audyssey set it. Trying to get everything dialed in. Thanks!!!

Yes it is best to let your AVR manage the bass and set your LPF filter to bypass/disable on your sub.

You have large towers which should have a pretty good bass response, but nonetheless I personally find 40 Hz a bit low. Your speaker may have some authority down there, but chances are your PB Plus has way more, so I'd let it handle a bigger range. Since acoustic frequencies become localized above 80 Hz, this is a very popular crossover frequency. It's the THX standard to boot. Since this is very easy to change in your AVR, you could simply test at 80 Hz and see if you prefer that or 40 Hz.

I don't see anything else to tweak in your setup! (You could always adjust the sub level a bit to give it more punch if you want...)

I actually just got my GF on record saying two cylinders would be alright. I love smartphones.

Thanks Neurtro, I appreciate the input!!

Sweet!!!

Then again, re-reading your post, I see that you have a much more advanced AVR than I do. If I read you correctly, you can set a different crossover for the all channels including LFE. Your LFE channel is already crossed at 120 Hz but since it's a "mono" channel nobody cares that much if it's a bit localized, so you'll already have most of the bass in movies sent to the sub in any case. The 40 Hz value seems to apply only to the non-LFE channels. I'd still try it higher but it's even less critical than I first thought as this will come in play mostly with music, and whether or not the sub should be involved there is a matter of taste. I love what my SB12 does to all kinds of music but you may prefer that your mains handle the most of that.