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post #2731 of 3020
Compare it to the criteria in the first post and you will know!
post #2732 of 3020
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Originally Posted by Gary J View Post

Compare it to the criteria in the first post and you will know!

I am a beginner,if I knew I would not of asked.
post #2733 of 3020
Well then that leaves me a little confused myself. If you knew what? If you knew what some arbitrary level number is for some receiver what are you going to make of that? It seems you would be better served researching the basics of receivers and current technologies involved before delving into the intricacies of this rather esoteric thread. All of which is just my humble opinion.
post #2734 of 3020
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Originally Posted by Gary J View Post

Well then that leaves me a little confused myself. If you knew what? If you knew what some arbitrary level number is for some receiver what are you going to make of that? It seems you would be better served researching the basics of receivers and current technologies involved before delving into the intricacies of this rather esoteric thread. All of which is just my humble opinion.

IT was a simple question that I wanted answered,we are suppose to add recievers to the list,correct??? Would the one I asked about qualify as level 6??? PLEASE anybody answer the question and I will move on,thanks.
post #2735 of 3020
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Originally Posted by LORDLICH View Post

IT was a simple question that I wanted answered,we are suppose to add recievers to the list,correct??? Would the one I asked about qualify as level 6??? PLEASE anybody answer the question and I will move on,thanks.

Here is the spec page
You should download the manual also

Stereo RMS Power (watts) 100
THD in Stereo 0.09 %
Frequency Bandwidth (stereo) 20-20k Hz
Surround Power (watts) 100 x 7
FM Sensitivity- Not Given
On-Screen Display- Yes
Multiple Zones/Sources- None
Remote Control Multibrand A/V
Learning Remote- No
LCD Remote- No
Width (inches) 16-15/16
Height (inches) 6-3/16
Depth (inches) 15-1/8
Parts Warranty 2 Years
Labor Warranty 2 Years
Surround Processing
THX Certification- No
Dolby Pro Logic II- Yes
Dolby Pro Logic IIx- Yes
Dolby Digital- Yes
Dolby Digital EX- Yes
DTS- Yes
DTS ES- Yes
DTS Neo:6- Yes
Dolby Digital Plus- Yes
Dolby Digital TrueHD- Yes
DTS HD- Yes
DTS HD Master Audio- Yes
Inputs & Outputs
Video Conversion Composite to Component
Composite to HDMI
Component to HDMI

Phono Input 1
Audio-Video Inputs- 5
Front A/V Inputs RCA
Audio Inputs- 4
Composite Video Monitor Outputs- 1
S-Video Inputs- None
S-Video Outputs- None
S-Video Monitor Outputs- None
Component Video Inputs- 3
Component Video Monitor Outputs- 1
Optical Digital Inputs- 3
Coaxial Digital Inputs- 2
Optical Digital Outputs- None
Coaxial Digital Outputs- None
HDMI Inputs- 4
HDMI Monitor Outputs- 1
Subwoofer Outputs- 1
Preamp Outputs- 1
Main Speaker Output Pairs- 2
Main Speaker Terminals Posts
USB Connection- None
i.Link/IEEE 1394 Connection- None

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post #2736 of 3020
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Originally Posted by B&W700guy View Post

Here is the spec page
You should download the manual also

Since that is easily obtainable and you didn't answer the question I guess he's moving on.
post #2737 of 3020
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Originally Posted by Gary J View Post

Since that is easily obtainable and you didn't answer the question I guess he's moving on.

You should do that...move on and lets kill this thread and use the AVR Facts thread...already killed that stupid anti 1.3 thread. LOL
post #2738 of 3020
No you should do his research for him and post the answer.

AVR Facts thread huh? I should take a look and see what misinformation you're posting.
post #2739 of 3020
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Originally Posted by Gary J View Post

No you should do his research for him and post the answer.

AVR Facts thread huh? I should take a look and see what misinformation you're posting.

LOL... you forgot, Seacrest Out! Please, you always make me laugh Tell us about popcorn,not HT.
post #2740 of 3020
YES I read the specs page at sonystyle,I do not understand every single thing and I wanted a future proof/level 6 reciever IF I wasn`t a beginner I would not be asking these questions,if I knew the answer and somebody asked a question I would not give them crap,I would be a little more friendly,also the specs do not match on power:
Audio:
Channel Power Rating : 7.1 Channel Power Rating: 110W x 7 Amp Power (700W) (8 ohms, THD 1.0%)

Impedance : 8 Ohms
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I PLAN on upgrading soon to that reciever from my ddw700 setup,I plan on using all hdmi audio and video from that reciever and using the onkyo SKS-HT540 speakers with it,I am hoping it will at least be a step or two up from what I have.
post #2741 of 3020
You will notice there is no list because that would be extremely time intensive to compile. However you have provided a few more clues so take a look a the Denon 1909 or comparable Onkyo which will give you Audyssey Room EQ (do the research), a big advancement in recent years and meet all other level 6 criteria. Sony does not have Audyssey. BWBoySeacrest might even agree on all of that but probably not just to be onery.
post #2742 of 3020
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Originally Posted by Gary J View Post

You will notice there is no list because that would be extremely time intensive to compile. However you have provided a few more clues so take a look a the Denon 1909 or comparable Onkyo which will give you Audyssey Room EQ (do the research), a big advancement in recent years and meet all other level 6 criteria. Sony does not have Audyssey. BWBoySeacrest might even agree on all of that but probably not just to be onery.

But is it worth the $200 xtra??? Does the sony meet thr criteria of level 6???
post #2743 of 3020
What $200 extra? Read the Denon 1909 to see what it can be had for.

You'll have to find someone with the time and inclination on their hands to see if the Sony meets the criteria. Or learn and do it yourself.
post #2744 of 3020
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Originally Posted by Gary J View Post

What $200 extra? Read the Denon 1909 to see what it can be had for.

You'll have to find someone with the time and inclination on their hands to see if the Sony meets the criteria. Or learn and do it yourself.

$400 for the sony,denon was 4600,I was also thinking about the pioneer VSX-1018TXH-K,I also read on the forum that the video upscaling is better on the sony compared to the denon.
post #2745 of 3020
I've got to agree that this thread is seriously out of date, and I don't think anyone's even mentioned Pro Logic IIz yet (http://www.dolby.com/consumer/techno...logic-IIz.html), and the possibility of an unexpected transition to 9.1 receivers (http://www.techradar.com/news/home-c...gic-iiz-499794).

It might be a gimmick, but the other manufacturers can't afford not to jump on the PLIIz bandwagon.
post #2746 of 3020
How big of a deal do you think these emerging technologies are to future-proofing a receiver?
post #2747 of 3020
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Originally Posted by ArcuxX View Post

How big of a deal do you think these emerging technologies are to future-proofing a receiver?

If in future, the movie industry were to embrace the height dimension, then such things could be more important at home. Until then, I wouldn't lose any sleep.
post #2748 of 3020
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Originally Posted by Roger Dressler View Post

If in future, the movie industry were to embrace the height dimension, then such things could be more important at home. Until then, I wouldn't lose any sleep.

HI Mr. Dressler,

I was just curious; did anyone at DTS came up with a name for the new
DTS neo6 (with the two front high and two height channels plus extra sub)?
If not, about: " DTS neo6x+ " Or: " DTS neo6 i5 " (as in High Five)
Or my first suggestion could be inverted to read: " DTS neo6+x "

And I am not trying to make you laugh. I am quite serious, actually.

Please, let me know. Until then, good day to you, sir.

Bob

p.s. "more important at home", like: D-BOX motion code. Except here,
it will be like: DTS 11.2 encoded for Home Theater.
post #2749 of 3020
9.1 sounds like a gimmick, especially until it's in the Blu-ray spec. Generally, though, more is better (and more immersive). Especially 7.1 versus 5.1. Maybe I'll upgrade in a few years, but see no point at this time. Purpose of this thread was for Blu-ray and HDDVD IIRC and it still holds true, even if the specific models are obviously way out of date. Denon alone has gone from 3 or 4 models to about 15-20, but a couple years will do that.
post #2750 of 3020
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Originally Posted by UxiSXRD View Post

9.1 sounds like a gimmick, especially until it's in the Blu-ray spec.

It sort of is in the spec already. The extra pair of channels in a 7.1 stream can be used for discrete height channels of various kinds. When used on top of a 5.1 mix, which uses PLIIx decoding to derive a 7.1 presentation, then you have a nice 9.1 platform. And those 2 height channels can just as easily be surround encoded to represent 3, 4, or 5 channels, bumping playback up to 12.1 if so inclined. Not every speaker requires a discrete pipe from the console.
post #2751 of 3020
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Originally Posted by Roger Dressler View Post

It sort of is in the spec already. The extra pair of channels in a 7.1 stream can be used for discrete height channels of various kinds. When used on top of a 5.1 mix, which uses PLIIx decoding to derive a 7.1 presentation, then you have a nice 9.1 platform. And those 2 height channels can just as easily be surround encoded to represent 3, 4, or 5 channels, bumping playback up to 12.1 if so inclined. Not every speaker requires a discrete pipe from the conole.

"conole"!???
post #2752 of 3020
mmm... cannoli

post #2753 of 3020
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Originally Posted by batpig View Post

mmm... cannoli


You're kidding me?
My best guess was that it have to do with the sound of a canon, right
after it's been fired; you hear the "Pouf" of the exaust, coming from the
tube or cylinder.
post #2754 of 3020
This does not seem like a quantum leap from AC3, lossless and Room EQ. I declare us already future-proofed.

post #2755 of 3020
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Originally Posted by Gary J View Post

This does not seem like a quantum leap from AC3, lossless and Room EQ. I declare us already future-proofed.


Now, I'm laughing my butts off. Great research. Unbelievable, what some
people can come up with!

I'm not kidding, I'm crawling on the floor right now...And I was very serious
in the first place.

If I knew that Mr. Dressler will not have taking me seriously, I will not
have bother.
post #2756 of 3020
Mr. Dressler was taking you seriously, he just mis-typed the word "console" probably.

Gary and I are the ones who are making jokes
post #2757 of 3020
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Originally Posted by Lordoftherings View Post

"conole"!???

D'oh! I meant console. I fixed my post. Thanks!!
post #2758 of 3020
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Originally Posted by Lordoftherings View Post

HI Mr. Dressler,

I was just curious; did anyone at DTS came up with a name for the new
DTS neo6 (with the two front high and two height channels plus extra sub)?
If not, about: " DTS neo6x+ " Or: " DTS neo6 i5 " (as in High Five)
Or my first suggestion could be inverted to read: " DTS neo6+x "

I have no idea what DTS calls it. We can ask Rob or JJ, they work there now.
post #2759 of 3020
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Originally Posted by batpig View Post

Mr. Dressler was taking you seriously, he just mis-typed the word "console" probably.

Gary and I are the ones who are making jokes

Ahhh! You guys really took me for a ride...
post #2760 of 3020
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Originally Posted by Roger Dressler View Post

I have no idea what DTS calls it. We can ask Rob or JJ, they work there now.

Thanks Roger, for finally replying. I just came back from a tumultuous ride.
But it was for the best, I enjoy it, it really was hilarious. Some people have a great sense of humor from your wording "conole". I'm sorry, I'm still laughing.
I think that I'm gonna remember that one for a very long time...Just go back to the beginning...
Anyway, my fault, I shoud have anticipated that it was "console".
I sure went along for the ride...

I'm still trying to regain composure.

I didn't realise that you were not working at DTS anymore. I don't know
Rob or JJ, so not much feedback for me. But you do, so give it a shot, if you
got the time and don't mind. I'm pretty good with new Logos, and quite
familiar with DTS. I'll give my suggestions for free, without credits (my
name totally removed from my discovery or invention). Again, FREE.
And you can tell them, that I'm pretty good at this. I wasn't born yesterday.
I might be old, but I'm wise with a sharp mind (well, except for the "conole"
one).

Well Roger or Mr. Dressler, as you prefer, nice chatting with you. It was
actually excruciatingly enjoyable, just because of a simple misspell word!
Just Unbelievable, isn't it!
I hope, you, and others enjoyed the ride too, as much as I did.

Nice meeting you, and maybe we'll talk again... (with another misspell word
perhaps!).

Bob
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