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post #151 of 709
Those of you who are owners of this set, can you verify your red levels. Read a review by a user that on his set reds look more like magenta than red. Perhaps the user didn't calibrate properly. Would like to pick up this set and last I was in BB I did not notice any problem with reds but I did notice them being off on a set at CC.
post #152 of 709
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Originally Posted by bluemooner View Post

Those of you who are owners of this set, can you verify your red levels. Read a review by a user that on his set reds look more like magenta than red. Perhaps the user didn't calibrate properly. Would like to pick up this set and last I was in BB I did not notice any problem with reds but I did notice them being off on a set at CC.


I certainly haven't experienced this problem.
post #153 of 709
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Originally Posted by garsh View Post

nVidia released a new driver a week ago. The drivers that came with my computer didn't support 1080p, but this one appears to do so. Give it a shot. I have an nVidia GeForce 7300 LE.

Actually I was able to get my 6800 to do 1080p Didn't have to do anything, just hooked up the DVI to HDMI cable and the nVidia Panel allowed me to set the resolution to 1920 x 1200 @ 60Hz.

Not sure why the specs for the card state that it cannot support that resolution.
post #154 of 709
OMG. Does it really matter so much that the no input screens have leakage?

This scares me because it seems like you will not be able to accept anything in life just because it's not perfect. The TV loses no practical value because of this, yet everyone keeps going on and on about it. Do you guys actually have the time to sit behind the set and watch a black screen? I really wish I had so much free time on my hands. I barely get to use my bad boy, let alone gaze at black screens long enough to care about the leakage issue.

Dont get me wrong, this forum is mainly here to discuss various audio/video equipment and compare it and its benefits/drawbacks but the immense amount of time spent on this is 1. bad for people who are considering buying these LCDs (cuz it obviously doesn't matter) and 2. makes a big deal for no reason.

The fact that there is a disproportionate amount of talk on this issue puts it completely out of prospective for those who haven't experienced it first hand.



In other news, I have gone to -1 mode for viewing web sites, but still go to full pixel (which gives me a 41" screen) for games and movies. Sometimes, I live on the edge and select -1 for movies to enjoy the 46" splendor and pretend I dont live in a world with underscan in it.
post #155 of 709
Can someone tell me if you can get Discovery HD on a 2500 without the STBox?
post #156 of 709
I think we have a failure to communicate...those in darkened rooms watching at night can see backlight leakage constantly.

It's there during every channel change...it's there in every darkened movie transition...it's even there during dark movie scenes.

Even my wife can see it.

To those struggling with this problem, keep exchanging because every set is different (although potentially better or worse).

I didn't get a set that was good enough till the 3rd try, but if I exchange again I might get something worse.

Don't stop till you get a set you can live with, it's not just you.
post #157 of 709
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Originally Posted by mcswain1 View Post

Can someone tell me if you can get Discovery HD on a 2500 without the STBox?



Discovery HD is not a free channel. You must get it thru cable or satellite.
post #158 of 709
I'm hooking up an older VGA device to my v2500 (a SEGA Dreamcast).

The Dreamcast operates at 640x480, which my computer LCD automatically scales to full-screen.

I was hoping the v2500 would do something similar (at least in the 4:3 area), but it only shows 640x480 as a 10 inch area in the middle of the screen.

I haven't played with the VGA input settings yet...should I bother?

EDIT: Found answer in the calibaration thread: Full1 fills the 4:3 area.
post #159 of 709
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Originally Posted by Frank@N View Post

I'm hooking up an older VGA device to my v2500 (a SEGA Dreamcast).

The Dreamcast operates at 640x480, which my computer LCD automatically scales to full-screen.

I was hoping the v2500 would do something similar (at least in the 4:3 area), but it only shows 640x480 as a 10 inch area in the middle of the screen.

I haven't played with the VGA input settings yet...should I bother?

EDIT: Found answer in the calibaration thread: Full1 fills the 4:3 area.

I only get the leakage when the screen is off or nothing is displaying. Maybe I am just one of the lucky ones then? Or maybe those that get leakage during dark movie scenes are just unlucky?

Either way, I'm glad I dont have that problem because I watch movies in a 99.9% pitch black room with many dark screens and if the leakage occured during those scenes it would be very disruptful.

However, I do not think I am in the minority of lucky people with leakage only during no-input times because that usually is not the case.
post #160 of 709
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Originally Posted by richard korsgren View Post

Discovery HD is not a free channel. You must get it thru cable or satellite.

I have Brighthouse HD STB in my livingroom and get DiscoveryHD through the box. I do not subscribe to any scrambled services. I was wondering with the V2500's HD tuner if one can get these channels through the cable without the STB. In my other room where I would wall mount the V2500 there is no place to cleanly place a STB, and I did not want to have to resort to an IR repeator.
post #161 of 709
bluemooner, absolutely no problems w/ reds on my set either. If anything, they are right on the money. I watched the Louisville/Rutgers f'ball game Thursday night in HD (where there was plenty of red) and the picture and color could not have been better.
post #162 of 709
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Originally Posted by djkeef2004 View Post

I only get the leakage when the screen is off or nothing is displaying. Maybe I am just one of the lucky ones then?

Mine is the same. If there's a low light in the room, or there's anything on the screen to give contrast, then I don't notice anything.
post #163 of 709
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Originally Posted by A/V Ag View Post

I tend to watch movies in the evening in a relatively dark room...

You should go plasma -- they're ideal for the viewing you describe. I liked the pq of some plasma's I've seen... some characteristics are different and pleasing. It'd be great if we had a menu setting for plasma mode and lcd mode. Each has its pluses and minuses.
post #164 of 709
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Originally Posted by alogi88 View Post

Thanks for the help but still no relief

It seems every time I shut off the TV it defaults back to 480i. Do you think it is a bad box?

It is a short step to reconfigure but extremely annoying.

Do you have the same cable box?


Just wanted to chime in, I have the SA 8300HD and have it set up the same way GooglyBear stated. The box should not default back to anything after a power off. To this point, after I make a change to my SA 8300HD even if I power off and UNPLUG the power and wait a while and turn it back on it comes back up with the same settings that I had it changed to prior to power off. In short, once you make a change you have to unmake the change, it doesn't revert. I am not saying you have a bad box but you may want to make sure you are actually making the change. I am setup HDMI -> HDMI on my KDL-40V2500, I use the HDMI option on my SA 8300HD and use the TV's 'Wide' button to fill out the screen on SD channels or HD chanels with bars.

GOOD LUCK!!
post #165 of 709
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Originally Posted by Csonka39 View Post

bluemooner, absolutely no problems w/ reds on my set either. If anything, they are right on the money. I watched the Louisville/Rutgers f'ball game Thursday night in HD (where there was plenty of red) and the picture and color could not have been better.


I also watched Louisville/Rutgers game Thursday and I had no issues with my reds.

My game time setup, Comcast Digital Cable SA 8300HD, HDMI -> HDMI:

My 40V2500 Setup...
Mode: Custom
Backlight: 1
Picture: 92
Brightness: 47
Color: 50
Hue: 0
Color Temp: Warm1
Sharpness: 3
Noise reduction: low

Advanced Settings:
Black Corrector: med
advanced CE: off
gamma: low
clear white: off
live color: off
color space: normal

power saving: off
light sensor: off

The reason that we referenced the game is that there were huge amounts of reds displayed and ESPN HD is beautiful. I hope this helps!!
post #166 of 709
Got fed up with the barebones v2500 remote and decided to switch remotes with my WEGA CRT.

Can't believe I didn't think of this sooner, the WEGA remote glows in the dark and has DVD player controls.

Sony's really skimping on it's new remotes.
post #167 of 709
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Originally Posted by Frank@N View Post

Got fed up with the barebones v2500 remote and decided to switch remotes with my WEGA CRT.

Can't believe I didn't think of this sooner, the WEGA remote glows in the dark and has DVD player controls.

Sony's really skimping on it's new remotes.

I saw the remote for the V2500 and I would agree with you. I have owned the Harmony 520 for the past year. It has been great and Logitech tech support is awesome. One of the buttons was sticking and they replaced it with a new one last month since it was still under warranty. I will be using this remote when I get my 46" V2500 in several weeks.

If I purchase another remote it would be the Harmony 880 which I have seen online for a great price. A few more features and a chargeable dock.

http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/pr...categoryid=406
post #168 of 709
hmm...the Light Sensor option under Setup which used to dim out the backlight does not work anymore....turning it to either ON or OFF has no affect on the picture....any reason why it would stop working?

Thanks
post #169 of 709
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Originally Posted by <><</strong> View Post

hmm...the Light Sensor option under Setup which used to dim out the backlight does not work anymore....turning it to either ON or OFF has no affect on the picture....any reason why it would stop working?

Thanks

A few observations on the light sensor:

1) The minimum backlight for the sensor is the same as the minimum possible backlight setting. If you set the backlight to low, the light sensor will not have any affect.
2) The maximum backlight for the sensor is what you have as a backlight setting and not the maximum possible setting. Again if the back light setting is too low, you will not see a on or off change.
3) Power saver setting seems to affect only the maximum backlight for the sensor. So if your ambient light is sufficient, you will not see any change with light sensor on or off.

So with all three in mind, it is quite possible you would not see a change depending on your other settings and ambient light.
post #170 of 709
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Originally Posted by mas985 View Post

A few observations on the light sensor:

1) The minimum backlight for the sensor is the same as the minimum possible backlight setting. If you set the backlight to low, the light sensor will not have any affect.
2) The maximum backlight for the sensor is what you have as a backlight setting and not the maximum possible setting. Again if the back light setting is too low, you will not see a on or off change.
3) Power saver setting seems to affect only the maximum backlight for the sensor. So if your ambient light is sufficient, you will not see any change with light sensor on or off.

So with all three in mind, it is quite possible you would not see a change depending on your other settings and ambient light.

Without changing any settings, i just turned off my tv for a couple of hours, turned it back on, and the Light sensor is working again the way it should be again....

weird...
post #171 of 709
Purchased an antenna for getting OTA from Boston that the Sony's QAM won't pick up.
The manual says that an A/B switch can be used to switch between an antenna and cable connection. However, when I switch from antenna to cable, I have to search for digital channels again. That's a royal PITA. Is there any way around this or is this just the way it is?
post #172 of 709
I absolutely love my 40V2500, but I've been noticing one vertical line anomaly on the left side of the screen. I can only see it if there is ambient light reflecting off of the screen and when there is a dark scene on the tv. For instance, when I'm playing Splinter Cell (lots of dark areas) I can see this line anomaly. It's almost as if there is a depression in the screen if that's possible. If I view the TV from off of center then I cannot see it. Has anyone else seen this? Should I be worried?
post #173 of 709
I see something similar in dark areas when using the VGA port for my Dreamcast...

Unless it's there for all source/inputs, it's not really the TV's issue (if it is there in all sources, I'd exchange the set).

Although you might try wiping the screen with a microfiber cloth, my screen had alot of marks on it (but none that were completely vertical).
post #174 of 709
I reported before that my 40V2500 had the backlight leakage issue, and that I decided to live with it. Well, I couldn't. It was very distracting during dark scenes. I'm sure this is what people are complaining about, not the fact that you can see it during the no-input black screen.

In my case, the leakage was a hand-shaped spot in the center of the screen. The final straw was when one of my friends pointed it out to me during a movie -- and this is not a person that I would consider to be picky about such things.

I exchanged it for another 40V2500. I'm happy to report that the new set is much better. Its not perfect, but the splotches aren't nearly as bright -- or at least don't have such a sudden transition. So far, I haven't noticed them during movie scenes.

I may have had a bad set. I had also noticed a lot of stuck-on subpixels in the same general area as the splotch (about 12). I haven't been able to find any stuck/dead pixels on the new set.
post #175 of 709
I have tried connecting my MacBook Pro to the Sony via the MBP's DVI out port to the Sony's VGA w/ adaptor and to a HDMI w/adaptor; I then connect audio out from the MBP to the Sony's audo in. Picture is great, but he sound quality is extremely distorted. I've also tried connecting audio to my AV rcvr; same thing. When I disconnect the DVI from the MBP, the sound quality is good. I've posted this problem at Apple; just taking a shot that someone here might know of something I have to configure, or have had the same problem. Maybe it's just my laptop?
Thanks.
post #176 of 709
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Originally Posted by passedpast View Post

I have tried connecting my MacBook Pro to the Sony via the MBP's DVI out port to the Sony's VGA w/ adaptor and to a HDMI w/adaptor; I then connect audio out from the MBP to the Sony's audo in. Picture is great, but he sound quality is extremely distorted. I've also tried connecting audio to my AV rcvr; same thing. When I disconnect the DVI from the MBP, the sound quality is good. I've posted this problem at Apple; just taking a shot that someone here might know of something I have to configure, or have had the same problem. Maybe it's just my laptop?
Thanks.

I suspect it is some issue with the MacBook or the audio plug going into the MacBook. I have no problems with my Mac Mini although I recently switch from sending the analog Audio to the v2500 and now send the the audio, via the optical connector, to my receiver (I can't do both at the same time from the Mini.) The optical connector is preferable because it can output Digital Dolby 5.1 which can't be done through the analog stereo connectors.
post #177 of 709
I just bought an Omnimount UCL-X wall mount for my 46". problem is the inputs are directly behind the plate that attaches to the TV. my HDMI cable is so stiff it won't bend enough to fit behind the plate. and it seems like the pressure from the calbe is making the HDMI input "twist or bend" slightly.

I understand the XBR inputs are not on the same axis.. they run along horizontal width of the back. that design makes much more sense.

i can't return of exchange the wall mount. any ideas?
post #178 of 709
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Originally Posted by mcswain1 View Post

I have Brighthouse HD STB in my livingroom and get DiscoveryHD through the box. I do not subscribe to any scrambled services. I was wondering with the V2500's HD tuner if one can get these channels through the cable without the STB. In my other room where I would wall mount the V2500 there is no place to cleanly place a STB, and I did not want to have to resort to an IR repeator.


Had to buy a 40" to answer my own question. Wasn't too hard a decision with 2% back from Fat Wallet, 3% from AMEX, 10% off on TV coupon on CC Home page and another 10% coupon CC mailed my neighbor (yes it allowed both coupons). Came in at under ebay costs. Ordered on line and picked it up in 24 mins.

Tried two digital channel scans on the direct Brighthouse central Florida cable hookup (without STB) and both times it found twenty something channels but nothing over channel 630. Anybody know why?
post #179 of 709
well, i tried to like the tv....but for some reason i couldnt get past the hazey/blurry picture, OTA HD was clean and clear, but still hazey and not as crisp as i'd like..i tried all the calibrations listed in the calibration thread but still didnt' satisfy me.
To all those people who say that they cant notice a difference btwn the xbr2 and the v2500, i don't know if your biased b/c of your purchase or my eyes are just more sensitive to detail, but there is a definite difference in PQ, espeically NO haze/blur in the picture.

I have returned the v2500 and purchased the xbr2 in its place, thanks to all of you in your help and input to all my questions.
post #180 of 709
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Originally Posted by leftheaded View Post

I just bought an Omnimount UCL-X wall mount for my 46". problem is the inputs are directly behind the plate that attaches to the TV. my HDMI cable is so stiff it won't bend enough to fit behind the plate. and it seems like the pressure from the calbe is making the HDMI input "twist or bend" slightly.

Get a lower-gauge HDMI cable.
Check the bottom of this page.

I have a similar issue, and there was just enough room for me to bend one of these cables into place.

Alternately, you can get an HDMI angle or swivel adapter, like this one.
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