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post #331 of 361
Theater looks FANTASTIC! Love the colors, setup, and overall design. Definitely one of my favorites on this forum.
post #332 of 361
Tom,
Do you have a pic that shows the area around the rack? I just started looking into my build and am worried about the height issue of the equipment rack being accessed from the riser. I plan on having a soffit built out (similar to what yours has) which decreases the headroom even more. Do you find access to that difficult?
Looking great, btw!
Craig
post #333 of 361
Thread Starter 
Hi Craig - are you looking for a pic of the front, or the rear area around the rack?

As for the shortened bifold access, I'm 6'5" so ducking is necessary I'm in and out of there so infrequently, that it is not really a bother having a smaller portal to my gear. I use the extra room back there for miscellaneous storage and an emergency kit; I really only go back there maybe half a dozen times per year. My riser technically should have been a few inches higher, but I opted to try and retain at least a little headroom with the soffit so that tall folks aren't as likely to hit their heads - a little bit of a compromise in the end.

Cheers,
post #334 of 361
Another Victorian! Nice looking theater
post #335 of 361
Hey Tom

Just wanted to say great job, I know this post was started 4 years ago, but I just joined this sight recently.

I am redoing my room, but nowhere near the extent you did. I do not have the room in my house for a dedicated theater room, so I am going make do with what I have.

For me the best thing that came out of your build was your AV Rack, EXCELLENT!!!

I will be doing the same in my room, mine will be low as I have landing behind the wall, but I think 3 feet should be enough.

Again excellent job my fellow Canuck!!!
post #336 of 361
Tom - Fantastic thread and you did an awesome job not only on the theater, but documenting it for others to follow. Congrats!

On your rack - see the attached picture for an explanation of what my question is - but did you add a 1x trim piece to the inside of your rack stud frame or is that just the 2x4 stud sanded and painted? Looks like a trim piece to me

Does the shelf rail bracket screw into the trim and then into the stud and why did you add trim to the back of the rack?

Thanks so much! I am going to build something very similar as I have a closet under the stairs. Wasn't sure what to do until I saw your thread!

thanks

jim
LL
post #337 of 361
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by jim tressler View Post

....did you add a 1x trim piece to the inside of your rack stud frame or is that just the 2x4 stud sanded and painted? Looks like a trim piece to me

Hi Jim! During the framing, I left an opening between the 2x4 studs of 20.5 inches (20.5" minus 2 sets of 3/4" trim = 19" total width) - this way, once the drywall was up, I could trim the inside faces with 3/4 inch trim molding to provide a more 'finished look' than the lumber. Mind you, you only see it from the back From the front side, it provides a 'platform' for the faceplate screws to sink into as opposed to just screwing directly into the 2x4. Probably not required, but I think I may have overthought things a little

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Originally Posted by jim tressler View Post

Does the shelf rail bracket screw into the trim and then into the stud and why did you add trim to the back of the rack?

Indeed. Upon reflection, I suppose no other real reason other than I was really OCD that day. I figured it would hide the transition from drywall to the studs / 3/4" trim / framing and look a little nicer

I hope that helps, and Happy New Year to all!

Cheers,
post #338 of 361
Tom, I promised a while back that I would show you what you inspired me to build in my own home. I confess I borrowed a lot of ideas from your build thread... I really hope you don't mind!

This photo is a bit dated, I have a black velvet border around my screen now that makes for a nicer finished look.



I would love to paint the case of the PJ black, but it's for another day.
post #339 of 361
well i took a page from your book and deceided to make a rack like yours but a wee bit bigger about 23 inches wide. if you like i can put the pictures of it here or in another thread...
post #340 of 361
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by arc trooper View Post

well i took a page from your book and deceided to make a rack like yours but a wee bit bigger about 23 inches wide. if you like i can put the pictures of it here or in another thread...

By all means, throw in a few pics!

Sorry I haven't been around the board much lately.....in the midst of a full kitchen gut (amongst other renos, and rescuing the theater from a recently failed 40gal HW Tank)





Trying to give the kitchen the same finish quality as the theater downstairs Maybe put an IB Sub in above the ovens??

When I've got a bit more 'non-load-bearing-wall-removal' time, I think I might start up a rack thread with some more detailed steps of what I did - I still field quite a few rack PM's here and there, and wonder maybe if it would be more helpful if I corralled all the info all into a single thread?

Any thoughts on this are most welcomed!
post #341 of 361
definatly. heres mine in the latest stage
post #342 of 361
very nice! Where did you get your plaques at?
post #343 of 361
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jim tressler View Post

very nice! Where did you get your plaques at?

+1 - those are excellent plaques! Where from?
post #344 of 361
Quote:
Originally Posted by jim tressler View Post

very nice! Where did you get your plaques at?

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Originally Posted by YW84U View Post

+1 - those are excellent plaques! Where from?

I assume he got them here:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1062844
post #345 of 361
i did, some 7.00 kodak photo paper and a decent kodak printer and some 2.00 minimal frames from walmart... look pretty nice right?
post #346 of 361
Thread Starter 
Well. it's been some time now, and upgrade-itis has taken hold

Up until now, we mainly used the theater for movies/gamin and not much in the way of TV watching. I was still 'old school' and had analogue cable to my other TVs, but now the cable company is reclaiming tiers and transitioning everything to digital. I had originally looked at some of the HD-PVRs offered over the years, but with prices ~$748, I never really took the plunge.

Now, the cable company is starting to roll out an Arris Gateway solution, allowing users to use a 6 tuner gateway box and then stream live and recorded content to 'expander portals' using MoCa. This got me interested to make the switch, especially since it looks like they are going to enable DNLA within the units as well!

I'm waiting for the beta testing to finish up, and then likely I'll be installing this system into the house as opposed to building various media streaming boxes and such for my home network. Very interested in seeing what the new gateway system will handle.

Here's a linky for those who are curious:

http://www.shaw.ca/Gateway/

In the meantime, the provider gave me a DCX3200 gratis until I'm ready to go. Believe it or not, this is the first HDTV tuner I've put into the room So far, it looks like this may change our family's viewing habits!

Next order of business as well is to add on to my IR system to accommodate the newer equipment. I'm also looking at replacing the aging AVR with an Onkyo of some flavor in order to finally gain some newer audio tweaks, some HDMI ports and finally tame the cable monsters in the closet. Time to cut some more plates for the Rack.

Looking forward to the upgrades

Cheers,
post #347 of 361
This is an amazing thread and I have definately book marked it for some of your great ideas.

I just got the "OK" to go from the finance department (aka my better half) to do a HT. I have scoured your thread and a couple others but have been unable to come up with what the "Average" cost to construct one is. I am planning on putting aside around $15K to take unfinished basement space to HT awesomeness. Is this reasonable?

Thanks for your time....
post #348 of 361
Thread Starter 
Hi AT1AW,

I don't really know if there is such thing as an 'average cost' - I think it all depends upon what each member's personal tastes and goals are. I've seen some great setups that cost less than $2K that (at least to me) seem to really capture that 'home theater feel/experience' - and some that are 40x that amount that fall a bit short. In the end, it's most likely your own 'vision' of the project that will determine the budget and the awesomeness factor

For 15K, I would say you are well within reason (unless your goal is a 40 seat IMAX of course!) to achieve a great build. From my recollection, my build was in or around the $12K mark (including paint rollers, Tylenol, beer etc). When I planned mine out, I felt it was more prudent to plan and design the room and spend the larger portion there, since equipment will always come and go and you are less likely to re-do rooms over and over. Reasonable speakers in a well designed room will sound far, far better than expensive ones in a 10x10x10 drywall box

I would encourage you to plan things out such as whether sound isolation is desirable (close neighbors? Kids with early bedtimes?), overall use of the room (dedicated or multi-purpose?), how many seats you anticipate needing.....For me, the most difficult part was the pre-planning to decide the where/why/how much as opposed to the actual building part.

I would encourage you to start up a thread, where you can throw ideas around with the folks here and see how your goal develops - there are some great resources here that can add so many new ideas and ways of doing things that I'm certain that at the end of it, you will have a HT both you and the Minister of Finance will enjoy! And if you have any questions, by all means feel free to post them and I'll do my best to give you my best guess


Cheers,
post #349 of 361
Thread Starter 
Upgrade, at last!

Unboxed an Onkyo TX-NR609 today, and am in the throes of swapping out the older Sony STR-DE345 AVR that was handling the seating transducers. I've kept the Sony 945 for that duty, and have gotten to the point of initial hookup and testing. Removed about 8 lbs of now defunct cabling (component, HDMI switchers etc), and will have to do some cable tidying over the next while.

So far, I'm very impressed with the Onkyo - no problems reaching decent listening levels within the room space, and the SQ seems at first blush to be very good through the Paradigms. There is a crap-load of features and tweaks I'm going to have to explore over the next little while to tweak/tease the best performance out of things But even with the initial Audyssey setup, a handful of test movies sounded great (and now I'm able to enjoy some of the newer codecs!). I'm wondering how long of a break-in period the AVR might need - any ideas?

In the next few weeks, I'll have to cut out some new faceplates for the rack, since I've jockeyed the slots around to accommodate the new gear. I'll try and throw up some pics once things are getting close to complete

Cheers,
post #350 of 361
Tom - Head over to http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1322401 for a wealth of info on the 609. I have the unit and have had no issues. Sounds just as good as my 600 that was 9 years old. Its a great receiver for the price!
post #351 of 361
Hey Tom,
Beautiful theater, just beautiful. With your permission I would like to steal your color pallette. I've looked at many greens at the paint stores but can't quite find the right one. I looked through your entire thread but didn't see where you shared the brand and color name of your green walls. Do you still know? And like you, I have black trim. Do you find that with the green and black, the theater is dark even with all the lights on? Can you see to play a game with the family, etc? When not screening the latest flick I mean.
Thanks dude and great job!
post #352 of 361
Thread Starter 
I cannot remember if I ever posted the paint color in the thread
For those following, it's a Sico brand paint from Rona, named 'TAIGA', color card number '4164-73', in a Satin Flat finish. The details on the can label are: 171-503 Neutral Base, SICO 4000, Base 3, A-7C4,Q-3C24, V-40.

I really do like this color for the HT - when the lights go down, the wall color essentially fades to black, and has no hue/tone whatsoever! Plus, it hides any drywall mistakes I've made very nicely.....

Just remember it dries a couple shades darker than when you view it wet or on the card. I hope that helps!

Cheers,
post #353 of 361
Thanks Tom. I'm having trouble finding it in the states but will look online.
post #354 of 361
Thread Starter 
I finally got around to updating the rack and faceplates I decided to delete the Xbox, since we have a Kinect now and tend to move the console around the house a bit more often. When we run it in the theater, I can now just plug into a front HDMI port of the Onkyo as and when required.

As I moved basically every component other than the Behringer, I figured I would just re-do all of the other plates and freshen things up a bit. Trip to the metal shop and $33 got me enough to do the entire rack plus a few extra feet if needed again later.

Some progress and installation pics:


































Much better! We decided to throw the Wii in there, even though it is not used all too often. I may try and hunt down a black case for it, so it does not appear to be such an obvious abomination


Cheers,
post #355 of 361
Thread Starter 
I also took the opportunity to clean up the spaghetti monster of wires in the back - I finally 'permanently' mounted the ISY99 and a new Gigabit 8 port switch:



I had to do a Monoprice order anyways for some computer stuff, so I picked up some 'proper lengths' of Cat5/RCA/and HDMI to reduce the amount of clutter I had collected back there over the last while

Less things for cobwebs to stick to

Cheers,
post #356 of 361
Sweet!

Bud
post #357 of 361
How thick are the plates?
post #358 of 361
Your DIY aluminum cover plates look great. One thing I can't figure out is you don't just screw them in. It looks like you have a rivit in the hole and then you screw it? It seems there's another piece in the mix other than your 1/16th Al and screw.
post #359 of 361
Thread Starter 
Hi CaLevi and GRBoomer!

The aluminum plate is .063 (1/16") thick - it is rigid enough to hold it's shape quite well, although some of the areas where it is less than an inch all the way around it tends to be a little less stable - you could either use thicker stock (I think the next size up is .080 (5/64)), or what I do to add stability for 'finger presses' is add 3M tape to link the panels together in the 'weaker' areas:



(I don't steel wool and paint the back side surfaces; I never really look at them anyways )

I haven't worked with the thicker aluminum, but the .063 is pretty easy to work with, especially when trying to cut out odd shapes and retain a nice finished edge:





As for the 'extra bit' that sits between the screw and faceplate, I used some nickel plated Brass Cup washers - they can be found in the clear plastic boxes usually in the hardware isle of most Big Orange or other hardware stores. I originally left mine nickel, but after a while felt they would be better black:





I painted them with the same Satin Mar-Hyde I use for the plates, and just leave the drywall screws with their original finish .

Cheers,
post #360 of 361
Thread Starter 
Haven't been lurking AVS in a while (but love the new layout!!), but thought I'd share the article from earlier this year - I made it into an Electronic House article

http://www.electronichouse.com/article/diyer_racks_up_unique_storage_system/diy

It is very weird to see your build written about in third person! I guess this should prompt me to get around to doing some upgrades smile.gif....if I ever finish my kitchen redface.gif

Cheers,

Tom
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