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Asus M2PN-VM, nVidia 6150 and DVI out not working right

post #1 of 27
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I built 2 HTPCs based on the Asus M2NPV-VM motherboard with onboard nVidia 6150. Neither one will drive a Dell 1907FP with nVidia drivers installed. The monitor will work fine in safe mode, or if nothing but the default microsoft VGA drivers are installed. I have contacted Asus support, Dell support and nVidia support, and guess what........that's right a waste of my time. To me it seems to be a drvier issue. the Dvi port definately works. I can drive my Sony HDTV via DVI to HDMI just fine. When the Dell monitor is connected I can get a signal all the way up until Windows logs in. At this point the drivers kick in an the monitor looses signal. I can hot-swap from my HDTV to the monitor after Windows has booted, but as soon as I try to enter the nVidia control panel, the driver autodetects the monitors and the Dell blanks out. I have tried every nVidia driver I can get my hands on and they all do the same thing. Anyone got any ideas how to force the DVI port to stay on?
post #2 of 27
What resolution are you trying to drive the Dell Monitor?
Does the monitor support that resolution?

Looks like that monitor only supports:

1024 x 768 1280 x 1024 640 x 480 720 x 400 800 x 600 1152 x 864
post #3 of 27
Thread Starter 
I do not even get a chance to choose a resolution. When Windows starts to login the monitor goes blank. You can see it flicker as if it has detected the monitor, but then thats it.
post #4 of 27
I would boot up the htpc with the sony tv connected to it. Then set the resolution to 640x480 and shut down the pc. Then connect the pc to the dell monitor and boot up. It should boot up at a res of 640x480. Then test the res at 1280x1024 @75Hz on the dell monitor.
post #5 of 27
What drivers? The new 91.x series suck ass. Use an older version.
post #6 of 27
You cannot run both VGA and DVI monitors simultaneously on the M2NPV mobo. Just one at a time.

Yeah I know, it's a pain to swap if you pick the wrong res. and the DVI goes crazy. You have to unplug it and plug in a VGA monitor to correct the settings.
post #7 of 27
Thread Starter 
You CAN in fact run both VGA and DVI simultaneously. I currently have one of these boards doing it, and have done it with a second one. The problem is with certain DVI monitors, and Nvidia's drivers.
post #8 of 27
Very cool, did you get the drivers from ASUS or nVidia? I just got my HTPC going last week and loaded the latest ASUS chipset drivers but still could not get it to do 2 monitors at once!

While were at it, I am outputting HDMI to a Sony WEGA 36" CRT TV and am having a heck of a time getting it to do 1080i as the specs for the TV says it does. My desktop screen is really small when I do 1080i res. The only res. I can come close to is 720X480 and then the desktop is overscanned and the taskbar and edges are cut off. I don't see any nVidia settings to resize the screen other than over/underscan which does not quite make it. Any suggestions?

Also Sony says HDMI should carry audio as well as video, but I have not been able to get the mobo to push audio down the HDMI port. So I have to do a seperate audio run (L + R) RCA back to the HT receiver amp.

How is your system set up?
post #9 of 27
Thread Starter 
I am using the latest beta drivers from Nvidia. I still think there is an issue with certain DVI monitors though. My brother in law is using a Samsung DVI monitor (sorry I do not know which one). I never could get the Dell to work, although I haven't tried it with this latest beta driver.

The Asus drivers are based on old Nvidia drivers, at least the last one I tried was. They will not give you all the options for configuring the HDTV resolutions. You will need a more recent driver for that. I got my Sony KDF60xs-955 with DVI -> HDMI running at 720p. Then I adjusted the desktop to something like 1200x692 to get rid of overscan. I tried 1080i with this newest beta as well and it worked for the 1st time. I had to back down to the 720p for videos to play smoothly though. 1080i seemed to be too much for the 6150.

For audio to be carried thru the HDMI cable you need a way to get the audio into the cable to begin with. A DVI -> HDMI cable isn't going to do it. I have my audio going out of the sound card into the audio port next to my HDMI connection on the TV.
post #10 of 27
Thanks Karl, I'll try and load some official nVidia drivers instead of the ASUS ones. I guess I'll stick with the 720p res. if the ASUS bd. can't handle 1080i smoothly.

I also seen a post about the HDMI audio which stated that the HDMI output on the mobo must support HDMI 1.3 output if you wan't to combine it with video on the same cable. I wonder if that's what ASUS means in their specs. by high def. audio?
post #11 of 27
Thread Starter 
You can give 1080i a shot. Your results may be different.

No, they mean it is high-def audio in that it supports 6 channels of audio. That board has no HDMI output. You would need an additional PCI card with that ability.
post #12 of 27
Oh.. OK, Thought I might have missed turning something on in the mobo audio.

I'll try those nVidia beta drivers tonight!
post #13 of 27
Well I tried the beta drivers and it seems to have given me capabilities to run dual displays, but I still can't get rid of the 1/4" black vertical bars on each side of the screen. Also it has now greyed out the Underscan button in advanced settings. Think I'll roll back to the original drivers.

I may also try using RGB instead of HDMI to the TV and see if things "stretch out" horizontally a little bit better.

Just to recap, I am using a Sony WEGA KV32HS420 w/4:3 aspect ratio that is Hi-Def "ready". The TV is adjusted properly (internally for overscan and all) to work with broadcast signals.
post #14 of 27
Thread Starter 
Hmmm...not sure how a 4:3 can be HD?! I saw the specs for it as it supports those formats, but I am not sure what it does. Definately makes things trickier. You may have to go into the advanced resolutions and make a custom one.
post #15 of 27
I think that it will do high def. But with that aspect size screen, it will severely letterbox it. Which is what happens when I set it to 1080i.

The new beta driver won't allow custom res. Just gives an error stating that "this is not a supported resulution for this monitor", then backs out. The original driver will, but usually results in a black TV screen. And then you have to hook up a pc mon. to set it back to 720X480.
post #16 of 27
Okay,

It seems I have the same problem as the original poster.

I recently put together a PC with the following:

ASUS M2NPV-VM 6150 Mobo
AMD X2 +3800 (65W)
1 Gig Corsair XMS2
WinXP SP2

I have a Dell 1905FPS and with the Windows Plug and Play video drivers, things are OK..

But as soon as I installed the Asus CD Graphics drivers my PC rebooted without finishing install or prompting me to reboot. Upon reboot the Post Screen up until Windows Load was visible through DVI. As soon as Windows Loaded my monitor went to stand by. I temporarely have it connected through VGA which is a Temp solution..

So, has your problem been fixed with any updated drivers? Links would be helpful..

On I side note, for the life of me I could not find how to Boot up in safe mode with this motherboard.. I tried F2, F8, F10, F12.. F8 goot me into the boot menu but only allowed to select boot device.. I even tried hitting F8 again in this screen but no luck..

I will mess with it some more tonight as I had to leave for work and not much troubleshooting could be done.

Any help would be appreciated.
post #17 of 27
I once had this problem with this board. And I am pretty sure it is the DVI cable that you are using to connect to the Front Projector. Try and make sure that the cable you are using is a DVI-I cable and not DVI-D. There is a difference.
post #18 of 27
First of all, don't give up! It took me a couple of weeks of tweaks but I finally got mine really working great!

I think that you may have to hit the F8 key very quickly after you exit the boot menu as I recall. But I know you can get into safe-mode because I did it too. It just takes a little timing.

Once you can see your desktop, try rolling the driver back in the Windows Harware Manager (Windows key + Pause|Break key). Or try reverting to a previous setting under Start > Accessories > System tools > System Restore.

I really did not find too much difference in the drivers that would let me set a screen resolution and size I wanted. So whatever driver works at the time use that one.

If none of that works, you may have to boot the Windows install disk and repair or re-install Windows to get your desktop back.

Once I got by the Windows desktop size problem I noticed that my video overlay was a little cut off on the verticle side edges. Here is how I fixed that...

Go to snapstreams knowledge base and search on the word "Aspect". It will bring up article 1174 "Setting custom aspect ratios and cropping in Beyond TV". Read the article to get a feel of what the settings do then forget about creating a custom settings file.

Just edit the (C:\\Documents and Settings\\All Users\\Application Data\\Snapstream\\Beyond TV\\CustomSettings.xml) file in notepad. (Make a backup copy of it first in case you really hose it up).

I changed the "Aspect-X and Aspect-Y" from <3> and <4> to something like <5> and <6> in the .XML file, tweaked the Crop setting and now the picture is perfect! Even looks fantastic using the "Good" setting.

I am now very please with this whole setup. The only thing is I'm going to need a bigger hard drive since my wife loves this thing so much she is recording everything now!

Good luck, and e-mail me if you need help!

--Dean
post #19 of 27
Thread Starter 
-TrzVpr
Sorry, but unless NVIDIA or Dell does something I do not think that monitor is ever going to work. I tried EVERYTHING, and the Dell monitor I had just wouldn't work with this board properly. The type of cable made no difference. It is a problem with the Nvidia drives, and until they admit to it and fix it you are out of luck. Luckily I had another monitor to use, a Samsung of some sort, and it works perfectly fine with all drivers.
post #20 of 27
I was wondering about a similar situation. I hooked this mobo up to my mits WS-65613 and couldn't get the tv to go into hd mode. What do I have to do?
post #21 of 27
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Originally Posted by AnthonyB View Post

I was wondering about a similar situation. I hooked this mobo up to my mits WS-65613 and couldn't get the tv to go into hd mode. What do I have to do?

Can you give more info? Like What OS? What drivers are you using? How did you hook it up?
post #22 of 27
I hooked it up by component. Then tried DVI, it didn't work once I loaded windows.

WinXP (SP2) is the operating system and the drivers were from ASUS's site downloaded today.

The computer found a monitor (and functioned "regularly" on Component) although it wouldn't go into an HDTV resolution, it stayed 720x480 and if I did resolution changes in the NVidia system tool it would go larger than the screen and I would have to scroll the screen by putting my mouse at the edges of the desktop. (I hope you understand what that means)

Thanks for the help you can give me.
post #23 of 27
I am gonna try powerstrip, if it works I'll buy that mobo for my HTPC..

Any suggestions with the parameters of Powerstrip for each? Maybe a thread you could point me to?

Mitsubishi WS65613 connected via component on COMP-1 input.
post #24 of 27
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by AnthonyB View Post

I hooked it up by component. Then tried DVI, it didn't work once I loaded windows.

WinXP (SP2) is the operating system and the drivers were from ASUS's site downloaded today.

The computer found a monitor (and functioned "regularly" on Component) although it wouldn't go into an HDTV resolution, it stayed 720x480 and if I did resolution changes in the NVidia system tool it would go larger than the screen and I would have to scroll the screen by putting my mouse at the edges of the desktop. (I hope you understand what that means)

Thanks for the help you can give me.

Those are really old drivers you need to dl the newest drivers from nvidia's site. Get the betas 93.81. once you get those installed. if you can't get the hdtv resolutions there is a tab that lets you add resolutions and even make custom ones.
post #25 of 27
I have installed the 93.71 but I haven't been able to find the 93.81 drivers yet, the biggest problem I have right now is a flicker problem when viewing my desktop and something down the left side of the TV that looks like little lines and it has several of them all down the tv on that left side.

I hope that these drivers fix that problem and give me a better refresh rate.
post #26 of 27
Got the 93.81 drivers and the problem still exists, it looks like this:

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and variants, even when in just windows desktop it still happens. It's also not a static thing, it's like it's flowing down the screen.

Any recommendations?
post #27 of 27
Thread Starter 
I have no clue sorry. Are you sure your sending a resolution the TV accepts? Have you tried the VGA input? Seems like that would be a better option.
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