The best TV money can buy

Mr friend said to tell your friend that he'll likely get better answers if you post this question in the plasma TV and perhaps rear projection TV forums. He said that it's a mistake to assume that people in this forum know more about TV's.

p.s. My friend also asked to have your friend get his story straight - if your friend has a 10K limit, than he does not want the best that money can buy, he wants the best that 10K can buy .

The new Pioneer Elite 1080p Plasma is one to consider on that list.

I support that motion .. I have not yet seen a better Plasma

perhaps you haven't seen the latest 9tyh generation Panasonic plasmas , the TH-65PX600u and its 103" brethren - both 1080p ?

You have not seen the Fujitsu AVIAMOs 50 & 65. It is to die.

Just wanted to quote what I consider to be an excelent response. Somehow you were able to express (much better than I could) my feelings when I read the original post.

Regards to all

PS: CINERAMAX, I think I still owe you a picture of the place in Torrimar where Home Theater was originally created... Do you still remember the address?

I put in my vote for the Mitsubishi Diamond line RPTV. Convince him to go with the 65", and get the WD65831.

It is the best image, I have seen, of any display, and I have 4 Plasma's including Panasonic, Pioneer and Fujitsu, as well as a 3Chip 720p projector and a 1080p single chip projector.

It is not only the best bang for the buck, but has a spectacular image. If you don't need the slim profile of a plasma, I would go with the Mitsubishi, and if he doesn't have room for the 65" version, they make a smaller one.

Hi LMCid: 8-9 Ram. de are., was looking for it just the other day on google earth , id be the left window. Happy pilgrimage!

These all great choices. I'd still go with the Elite 1080p - its the first Plasma I've seen that looks 3D like with a hi-def cable feed.

I will bring some candles along with my Nikon, the map sure helps however I am confused about the 8-9???... Do I need to find and follow a new star in the sky? Do you mean 89???

LOL!

Ramirez de arellano 8-9 is de number. Regards.

the best tv money can buy for under $10000? are you joking?

seriously, though, the best for that price and size range (assuming he wants a plasma- my personal choice for less than 60) would be the 1080 PE

i agree

One more for the short list and, it would appear, the only LCD candidate listed so far...

Syntax-Olevia 747i: HQV Realta processing, D6500 calibration out of the box, multiple HDMI ins, Dual Combo Tuners, RS232, Detachable Speakers, and Discrete IR.

Sorry Peter but no lcd should be allowed, unless of course it is LED backlit. The colorimetry problem with LCD discualifies it for me, even the AVIAMO 37 is not worth it.

A number of CEDIA goers that saw the Olevia 747i said it looked like a Plasma -- good contrast, excellent color. 1080p LCD at its best is now real competition for Plasma ...which is why it is gaining in market share.

No LCD except the LED backlits will compete with the image of the Fujitsu AVIAMO, it is a physical impossibility. A number of CEDIA attendees also liked the PEARL, go figure.

If you enter a market you previously owned 0% of, it's hard not to be gaining in market share . LCD has made some very real strides in the last few years. I am not convinvced it can compete with plasma yet, comparing apples to apples (same resolution to same resolution), at least I have not see one yet that can, but we shall see. In fairness, I have not seen the model you mention.

Hi

I have not yet seen the Fujitsu sets, Peter (CINERAMAX) mentioned but IMHO, the Elite PR)-1-FHD is one of the best display I have seen and this out of the box....

It comes pre-ISF calibrated.

i received my mitsubishi diamond wd-73831 yesterday, and i am quite impressed. after turning the contrast down, and doing my personal calibration effort, the picture is stunning. i have also seen the 65 inch model. this model accepts 1080p at the hdmi inputs. i am looking forward to getting a 100+ hours on the unit so that i can get it calibrated with an isf tech.

i cannot say best, because this is always in the eye of the beholder.

best i have seen so far.

The model I mentioned received Perfect Vision Editors' Choice, so it must have some merit. When I was talking about LCD gaining in market share, I was alluding to the fact that the technology now outsells plasma and is pulling away. With the exception of a few high-end offerings, Plasma is rapidly becoming the stuff of entry-level week-end circulars. I don't want to dredge up the old debate about which technology is better. I'm just saying that there are some noteworthy high-performance LCD products that are worthy of consideration, the 747i being one.

I wanted to like the Olevia, but didn't. No matter the source, it looked little better than a typical LCD and had lots of artifacting that really surprised me. The less expensive NuVision LCDs looked better to me, no competition. I was looking to pick up Olevia, but ended up becoming a NuVision dealer instead. That being said, they're still budget TVs and the Sim2 was clearly the best LCD I saw at CEDIA (not claiming I saw everything, however). I stared at it for a good 15 minutes trying to figure out whether it was LCD or plasma and finally had to ask. I usually have no problem telling one from the other.

John,

If you based your judgement on the Olevia 747i that was on display at the Olevia booth, I agree with your assessment. There was, however, a 747i that was properly set up at their national distributor's booth (TAG), and that is the one that had an arresting plasma-like picture. I also heard that it soundly trounced a comparabe Sony at an evening shoot-out -- I think it was a Silicon Optics event.

Yep, it was at the Olevia booth. Off air and Blu-ray both looked fairly bad. But then, with most of this stuff, it's simply the associated gear, so I don't want to smear them. I just was very surprised by this. I mean, how could they not know it looked bad? Sim2's display was excellent.

The technology has always outsold plasmas because it comes in all sizes from 13" and up. Plasma is the 42" market and up. 42" and up (FLAT panels ONLY) I don't believe LCD outsells plasma but if you can point me to a reference that says otherwise I'd like to read it.

Hi

We should not shy away from debate of which Technology is better. At this point in time plasma is better. The best LCD almost "look" like plasma they are not yet as good as the best plasmas... I promise I will look at the Fujitsu AVIAMO but aren't they over 10 K.. The original post mentioned a MSRP <= 10 K...

I was not a fan of plasma until recently when I started noticing plasmas doing certain things other technologies would not. For example I am not sure any other display technology reproduces bright scenes with the realism of plasma and No! It is not just a function of the sheer amount of foot-lamberts...

Is it a secret?