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post #31 of 1797
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Originally Posted by CFC View Post

So it's cool to download and install if I plan to use QAM now?

It's worth a try. Let us know how it goes.
post #32 of 1797
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by TPeterson View Post

Oh, and BTW, if you're running the September nVidia driver (91.47) and seeing jerkiness and high CPU use in Task Manager, try the DViCo recommended 84.21 nVidia driver instead.

Terry,

The nVidia 93.71 drivers released today help a bit. I was seeing about 88% CPU usage for 1080i playback on my 6600GT with the 92.91 drivers, and with the new drivers I see about 65%. So if you want to run newer drivers for games, PureVideo, etc., these drivers are a little better.

However, they still are not great. I expect that if I rolled back to 84.21, I would be in the range of 25-40%. That's what I get on a similar PC doing 1080i Fusion playback with an ATI 9800 Pro.

-Dave
post #33 of 1797
...and that's what I see with a 6200 on my 2.4-GHz Celeron with the 84.21 driver (20% for 480i and 40% for 720p and 1080i).
post #34 of 1797
I get a EP45 authentication error when launching the app, anyone else get this?
post #35 of 1797
You're the first, AFAIK. What's your system detail?
post #36 of 1797
I have the Dvico Fusion5 RT Gold Tuner. I got it to work by manually going into my device manager clicking on the device with the yellow marker on it and reinstalling its driver from there. It would not work from the "Install New Hardware" prompt.

I was having a high pitch sound when recording so I am hoping this fixes that problem. You know of any others having this problem?

EDIT: problem is still there and I think it has gotten worse... arghh.
post #37 of 1797
It sounds as though you haven't read the KAXKID procedure for caveats about proper installation of Fusion sw.
post #38 of 1797
How do you enable time-shifting? The timeshift box in the configuration menu is "greyed out" and not available to use. Fusion USB with 3.5 software.
post #39 of 1797
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Originally Posted by gvc View Post

How do you enable time-shifting? The timeshift box in the configuration menu is "greyed out" and not available to use. Fusion USB with 3.5 software.

it only works in digital modes.
post #40 of 1797
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Originally Posted by TPeterson View Post

What do you mean "does not work with 480i"? I have a 6200 and I'm using 84.21 with FusionHDTV 3.50.01 to produce smooth play for 480i, 720p, and 1080i on my 2.4-GHz Celeron Win2k machine.

I get a white bar, not on just one computer, but on two computers at the bottom of the screen with 480 I digital video streams when using DXVA. I have to view 480 streams in non DXVA. I did not try v3.50 on my back-up computer which has the 6200 VGA. both computers are AMD I also want to mention the problem I had with crashing with pre 3.50 beta software after exceeding about 125 scanned channels was cured with V3.50 was caused by in the HDTV.exe module of the software DVICO set a 300 stream limit according to DVICO support they now put the limit at 1000 streams in their official release.
post #41 of 1797
Yes, they raised the subchannel-quantity limit, but that wasn't actually what fixed the problem; there was some other bug in the Registry updating code. I thought that you'd said the crashing happened only with the 64-bit driver--anyway, that problem was fixed in the final 3.50.01.

What do you have the overscan parameters set to in the Video configuration panel? The default values are all "20" and using those I don't see any bars on any resolution.
post #42 of 1797
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Originally Posted by TPeterson View Post

Yes, they raised the subchannel-quantity limit, but that wasn't actually what fixed the problem; there was some other bug in the Registry updating code. I thought that you'd said the crashing happened only with the 64-bit driver--anyway, that problem was fixed in the final 3.50.01.

What do you have the overscan parameters set to in the Video configuration panel? The default values are all "20" and using those I don't see any bars on any resolution.

The crashing was both on 32 bit windows and x64 windows
Do you know what registry setting was the problem ?

I used the default settings I believe since it was so long ago i tried the overscan and just suceeded to cut off the bottom and the the scanning lines are doubled up hence a white bar that why the 6200 reverted to the back-up computer my main computer uses a ATI 9650 VGA and give good DXVA performance and one thing more my nvidia 5200 VGA also had the same problem as the 6200 and now its in the garbage the only nvidia board I had no problem with is the MX-440 which is only has 2 pipeline
processing the 6200 and the 5200 had 4 pipelines of processing apperently nvida only gears its more advanced video boards to the gamers and not towards video
post #43 of 1797
The problem wasn't a "registry setting" but with the FusionHDTV code that created the QAM mappings in the Registry.

Again: I see no bars on any resolution using FX 6200 and the 81.24 {ed.: make that 84.21} driver with DxVA with the default FusionHDTV video settings. I don't know why you're seeing something different, except maybe your 6200 isn't working properly?
post #44 of 1797
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Originally Posted by TPeterson View Post

The problem wasn't a "registry setting" but with the FusionHDTV code that created the QAM mappings in the Registry.

Again: I see no bars on any resolution using FX 6200 and the 81.24 driver with DxVA with the default FusionHDTV video settings. I don't know why you're seeing something different, except maybe your 6200 isn't working properly?


Isn't it 84.21 software I don't see 81.24 software listed on the nvidia driver software site? believe thats the version I'm using will try again and I get only one about 2" bar at bottom when any other version of nvidia driver get perfect 480I but not 1080I with no problems with 780P. I wonder if the board manafacture makes any difference? or maybe it's a bad board.
post #45 of 1797
Yes, I meant 84.21, as I posted previously. My board is EVGA brand.
post #46 of 1797
I have two FusionHDTV 3 tuners installed. I am able to use both tuners to watch both digital QAM and analog channels. QAM channels record just fine.

I can schedule an analog recording and it appears to start recording, but when I check for the file, it doesn't exist. The app doesn't appear to tune to the right channel when it starts recording. Although if I tune to the channel ahead of time, it makes no difference.

I have tried recording an analog channel while watching live TV. This works fine. Only scheduled recordings give me trouble.

I am currently running 3.50.01. I was having the same problem with 3.41. I am running Windows MCE as the OS, but I have no other tuners enabled, and I am not using the Fusion tuners in Media Center. I have also run into this problem on a completely different system running XP Pro.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks.

Dave
post #47 of 1797
I am thinking of upgrading to the new GeForce 8800 rumored to be coming out between $540 and $800, if it comes out at low side of range.

How much does Fusion card use the video card in regards to recording and will the new hdcp on gpu interfere in any way?

Also.. does the new driver update or fix anything related to video cards with hdcp?

Still learning.. screeen still freezes.. like when you hit pause.. hoping this new driver will help.

Mike
post #48 of 1797
Random freezes are almost always hardware problems. The new sw will very likely not fix your freezing screen.
post #49 of 1797
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Originally Posted by dpalmer95 View Post

I have two FusionHDTV 3 tuners installed. I am able to use both tuners to watch both digital QAM and analog channels. QAM channels record just fine.

I can schedule an analog recording and it appears to start recording, but when I check for the file, it doesn't exist. The app doesn't appear to tune to the right channel when it starts recording. Although if I tune to the channel ahead of time, it makes no difference.

I have tried recording an analog channel while watching live TV. This works fine. Only scheduled recordings give me trouble.

I am currently running 3.50.01. I was having the same problem with 3.41.

It's working for me with a single Fusion3 gold Q in 3.50.01 and it was working in 3.41. How are you setting up the scheduled recordings? You are looking for an MPG file, right?

Hmm...I see that KAXKID posted about a problem in version 3.41 with analog recordings and dual Fusion3 tuners here, which may be relevant to your problem. Perhaps that bug is still with us in 3.50.01. You may want to remove one of those F3 tuners if you need to record analog programs.
post #50 of 1797
For those that are interested, 3.50.01 appears to fix some Media Center compatiblity problems (at least for me).

I have a Powercolor T55E analog card installed. I had to disable it because it caused my system to become fairly unstable. With the driver for that card enabled, the Fusion software would not even tune analog channels. That appears to be fixed in this version.

I'm still unable to record analog TV with the Fusion software (apparently because I have two Fusion 3's installed), but this let's me record some analog TV.
post #51 of 1797
Got to say the new 3.50_01 is a definite performance improvement. Last night a triple concurrent recording (2) F5G's and a MDP-130 on a P4 2.0 Ghz w/768MB mem.
CPU never went above 55% and averaged about 50%.
post #52 of 1797
Installed 3.50.01 for my F5USB last night in OTA mode. 1st time I can remember in OTA mode not crashing during 1st channel scan (I usually had to repeat because of crash during scanning). As DVICO posted scanning time for OTA is quicker than previous versions - not that that really matters much. I think channel changing times are a little improved. Didn't notice much change in CPU consumption for live rendering but that was already low for me anyway with 3.41.

Early in the game still but so far no EP45 or segmentation faults or BSODs. But I haven't tried scheduling out of hibernation and other "stress" inducing actions that have caused problems in the past. Don't think I will bother testing out QAM mode as I don't really need it and OTA mode has historically for me been a lot more stable.
post #53 of 1797
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Originally Posted by TPeterson View Post

Yes, I meant 84.21, as I posted previously. My board is EVGA brand.

Do you use pure video with your 6200? I wonder if pure video would have any affect on performance?
post #54 of 1797
Nope, never touched it. I wouldn't expect it to be involved when FusionHDTV is active, but you could uninstall to find out.
post #55 of 1797
I've installed it , up from 3.41, ran into a snag after about 5th or sixth lauch have a access violation error on startup I'll reinstall it to test it some more but 3.41 had been more stable, my F5USB when switching between analogue and digital still seems to interfere with MCE's analogue card
post #56 of 1797
operamatic--

Before you reinstall, if you have Favorites defined, try deleting and redefining them. That used to rid us of Access Violation errors on startup some versions ago. I haven't seen this problem lately but its worth a try to avoid the re-installation hassle.
post #57 of 1797
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Originally Posted by TPeterson View Post

operamatic--

Before you reinstall, if you have Favorites defined, try deleting and redefining them. That used to rid us of Access Violation errors on startup some versions ago. I haven't seen this problem lately but its worth a try to avoid the re-installation hassle.

Better yet, don't use favorites at all - for some silly reason Fusion has always had trouble dealing with favorites, for example when channels in that list dissapear from the lineup. It's best not to use favorites at all, especially in QAM mode when the lineup can change frequently.
post #58 of 1797
Kevin--

As I said, I've not seen the Favorite Channels problem for some time even though the QAM list always has variations because of the VOD channels. I suggested that operamatic try this to see if he sees the Access Violations on startup vanish or not. FAIK, the problem that he's encountered is a new one so that regenerating the Favorites list won't help because the methods that FusionHDTV is now using for the QAM list management are evidently quite different from before. I'm just seeking data.

How is your test of 3.50.01 going?
post #59 of 1797
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Originally Posted by TPeterson View Post

How is your test of 3.50.01 going?

Haven't tried (and probably won't) QAM mode. In OTA mode I've started Fusion software out of hibernation several times and scheduled a few recordings out of hibernation and so far so good - not a single EP45, BSOD or segmentation violation. CPU consumption for live viewing is < 20% for all channels which is an improvement over 3.41 which already was low. Won't mess with favorites as I really have no use for them anyway. So far I'd say 3.50.01 is a winner - but only time will tell if it continues to behave that way.
post #60 of 1797
I can confirm lack of problem after install and first channel scan for
OTA channels. Very nice.


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Originally Posted by moyekj View Post

Installed 3.50.01 for my F5USB last night in OTA mode. 1st time I can remember in OTA mode not crashing during 1st channel scan (I usually had to repeat because of crash during scanning). As DVICO posted scanning time for OTA is quicker than previous versions - not that that really matters much. I think channel changing times are a little improved. Didn't notice much change in CPU consumption for live rendering but that was already low for me anyway with 3.41.

Early in the game still but so far no EP45 or segmentation faults or BSODs. But I haven't tried scheduling out of hibernation and other "stress" inducing actions that have caused problems in the past. Don't think I will bother testing out QAM mode as I don't really need it and OTA mode has historically for me been a lot more stable.
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