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post #61 of 1797
I have a Fusion Gold III QAM and have been using 3.41 on a P4 2.4 GHz 1 GB of ram. The main problem I have had is, sometimes on startup of the tuner software the QAM channels are deleted and I have to rescan for them.

I'm going to install 3.50.1 and see how it goes.
post #62 of 1797
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Originally Posted by icemannyr View Post

I have a Fusion Gold III QAM and have been using 3.41 on a P4 2.4 GHz 1 GB of ram. The main problem I have had is, sometimes on startup of the tuner software the QAM channels are deleted and I have to rescan for them.

I'm going to install 3.50.1 and see how it goes.

Yeah, I don't think they are necessarily hard coded like the other channels are. If you click on certain ones, they turn into a different number and the old one disappears. I haven't been able to pin down why exactly this is, other than assume that it is something to do with how the QAM format works.
post #63 of 1797
With 3.50.01 (and 3.41 for that matter) I haven't seen wholesale channel-data loss. There are cable channels that change numbering because the channel data structure changes. This happens often (daily) on VOD channels and may also occur on other non-broadcast (usually encrypted) channels. The VOD channels, which should be encrypted anyway, make for pretty poor TV, what with the random FF/REW actions caused by their lawful viewers, so this is not a big deal.

OTOH, the channel numbering on the cableco's clear-QAM copies of the OTA HD and other local broadcast feeds is pretty stable and changes only when the cableco decides that it "has" to move things around. This is a fact of cableco QAM life that you'll have to get used to.

Iceman, please post again if you do see wholesale channel losses with this new sw.
post #64 of 1797
An update, the 3.50.01 install went smooth with no problems and the software is working.

I don't think I mentioned exactly how the QAM channels were being lost with the previous version,
I used to have the tuner software set to close after a scheduled recording.
After the opening and closing of the tuner SW during set of scheduled recordings one overnight I noticed some of the digital recordings were analog instead of being from the digital channel I selected. When I checked the channel list I noticed only analog channels were listed.

My work around to the problem is having the software not close after a scheduled recording is finished. Sometimes when I started the tuner with the previous 3.40 SW I would hear the XP error sound effect and notice the QAM channesl were gone but it only happened once a week or less.

I don't know if it's a weather change or the antenna working better tonight but for OTA 3.50.01 seems much better for reception. I am now able to lock in channels easier.

I'm going to set some analog and QAM recordings via the recording scheduler and let you know if I find any errors.
post #65 of 1797
I installed the new version last night and so far, so good. The improved channel changing speed is definitely noticed!

Quick question: How does the PQ of the fusion compare to say the MDP-130 or a STB? I remember at one point people said the MDP-130 was superior, but I'm not sure if DVICO has made any improvements in the PQ.

Chris
post #66 of 1797
I installed it last night as well. I was running 3.41. I now notice that I have a lot of audio drops with QAM channels. Not sure why this is. Still trying to figure it out. Going to go back to 3.41 and see if it continues
post #67 of 1797
Noticed something new with 3.50.01, when I engaged time shifting it was fine for 1st hour of Pats - colts game. Then it started to lock-up. After shutting Fusion down, then starting up, got a new problem, looping. That is, it would play 2 or 3 mins, then repeat 10 seconds of audio and video in an endless loop. Had to keep shurtting Fusion down.

Did this 4 times, finally turned off timeshifting and problem went away. Odd.

F3 Gold with P4, 1 gig Corsair matched ram, MCE2005 with rollup 2. I also put in a new vid card this weekend, but can't beleive that would be the culprit.

Must say, new card, nVidea 7600GT, let me watch 1080i for first time without 'venetian blind effect, Pitt-Denver game was 'gorgeous'.
post #68 of 1797
Chris--

Your question about PQ comparison is ill-posed. MyHD produces its own HD output, independent of the PC's normal video hw, while FusionHDTV relies upon the PC's gear. Therefore, the excellent PQ of MyHD can be matched in principle by FusionHDTV running on a sufficiently capable and properly set up PC but the latter's results are completely dependent upon the host's hw and sw configuration. Therefore, it's not possible to make a blanket comparision.
post #69 of 1797
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Originally Posted by etcarroll View Post

Noticed something new with 3.50.01, when I engaged time shifting it was fine for 1st hour of Pats - colts game. Then it started to lock-up. After shutting Fusion down, then starting up, got a new problem, looping. That is, it would play 2 or 3 mins, then repeat 10 seconds of audio and video in an endless loop. Had to keep shurtting Fusion down.

Did this 4 times, finally turned off timeshifting and problem went away.

Were you exercising the Timeshifting function a lot when this occurred, or just had it engaged?

Did you try defragging the HDD where the Timeshift buffer lives?
post #70 of 1797
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Originally Posted by etcarroll View Post

Noticed something new with 3.50.01, when I engaged time shifting it was fine for 1st hour of Pats - colts game. Then it started to lock-up. ...

sounds like you have to set the amount of timeshift available higher, in the fusion configuration screen labeled "Record/Timeshifting" and then the tab labeled "Timeshifting". the "instant replay" default is 10 seconds and the "pause" default is 30 minutes. you have the option to increase both.
post #71 of 1797
Dvico has posted at ftp://ftp.dvico.com/Products/FusionHDTV/Down/ the 3.50.02
Anyone heard about changes / bug fixes on this?
post #72 of 1797
So far 3.50.01 is working good. All my Analog and QAM 256 recordings worked.
None were back to back however.
I usually try not to do that and leave at least a 1min break.
Also all the QAM channels are still there.
post #73 of 1797
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Originally Posted by TPeterson View Post

Were you exercising the Timeshifting function a lot when this occurred, or just had it engaged?

Engaged only.

Did you try defragging the HDD where the Timeshift buffer lives?

no, but probably should, just deleted alot of HD and SD recordings prior to install of 3.5 & ned vid card.

KAXKID - "sounds like you have to set the amount of timeshift available higher, in the fusion configuration screen labeled "Record/Timeshifting" and then the tab labeled "Timeshifting". the "instant replay" default is 10 seconds and the "pause" default is 30 minutes. you have the option to increase both. "

I accepted both defaults, can't see why these would be a problem.
post #74 of 1797
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Originally Posted by landofmu View Post

Dvico has posted at ftp://ftp.dvico.com/Products/FusionHDTV/Down/ the 3.50.02
Anyone heard about changes / bug fixes on this?

According to DViCo, that version was released to support a DVB-T card and it has no new features or bug fixes from 3.50.01.
post #75 of 1797
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Originally Posted by icemannyr View Post

I have a Fusion Gold III QAM and have been using 3.41 on a P4 2.4 GHz 1 GB of ram. The main problem I have had is, sometimes on startup of the tuner software the QAM channels are deleted and I have to rescan for them.

I'm going to install 3.50.1 and see how it goes.

I have the same card and a similar problem with OTA digital channels. Intermittently *all* of my digital channels disappear. Reloading the configuration usually restores them, but sometimes I have to rescan to get them back. The way I discovered this was that my scheduled recording stated to fail, and I discovered it was because the channel wasn't there. I previously didn't have this problem, it just seemed to appear suddenly. Installing latest versions of sw hasn't helped. Any thoughts???
post #76 of 1797
gimp--

Are you saying that installing 3.50.01 didn't change the channel-loss problem that you saw with the previous versions? (Note that, if so, yours is the first such report of this!)
post #77 of 1797
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Originally Posted by etcarroll View Post

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I accepted both defaults, can't see why these would be a problem.

i had observed earlier versions had stutter problems when the timeshift reached the limits of the buffer.
i have not used timeshift in a long while and i see that it still seems to have problems. i just did some expirimenting with setting the pause buffer to 5 minutes.

while the buffer is still not full, the show can be paused and restarted without problem, but once the buffer is full, the pause and re-start don't seem to function as they should. i also noticed that even when the pause is not used, some time after the buffer is filled there will be stutter and evenually stopping of the program and when i tried to stop the timeshift, the fusion app closed to the desktop.

anyone else want to share their experiences with the timeshift function.
post #78 of 1797
"some time after the buffer is filled there will be stutter and evenually stopping of the program and when i tried to stop the timeshift, the fusion app closed to the desktop."

This has been my experience as well, with all releases 'except' my 1st, 2.77.
post #79 of 1797
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Originally Posted by etcarroll View Post

{KAXKID said,} "some time after the buffer is filled there will be stutter and evenually stopping of the program and when i tried to stop the timeshift, the fusion app closed to the desktop."

This has been my experience as well, with all releases 'except' my 1st, 2.77.

In that case, this comment mystifies me:
Quote:
Originally Posted by etcarroll View Post

I accepted both {timeshifting buffer} defaults, can't see why these would be a problem.

It seems that history is being repeated here....
post #80 of 1797
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Originally Posted by TPeterson View Post

In that case, this comment mystifies me:It seems that history is being repeated here....


Terry -

Maybe I'm just dense, but I don't see your point - could you restate it?
post #81 of 1797
I mean that KAXKID's point about the circular buffer causing a problem upon filling seems totally consistent with your experience too, so how can you say that you don't see why it would be important to expand it if you're going to buffer a 3+ hour program? Clearly there's a longstanding bug there and Steve has a workaround for it.
post #82 of 1797
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Originally Posted by TPeterson View Post

gimp--

Are you saying that installing 3.50.01 didn't change the channel-loss problem that you saw with the previous versions? (Note that, if so, yours is the first such report of this!)

I started experiencing the channel-loss problem after successfully using for a long time version 2.99.08. I recently upgraded to version in an attempt to resolve the problem. I'll try 3.50.01 next.
post #83 of 1797
You "recently upgraded to version" ...uh...which version?
post #84 of 1797
TPeterson

Is Steve the 'KAXKID'?

If yes, then I just re-read his response, now see it in a different light/meaning, and will try expanding the defaults. However, I used defaults in previous versions, never saw this looping before.

But, after 2 years with DVICO, nothing surprises me anymore.

And if Steve is someone else, then I'm completely baffled by your response.

Gene

Quote:
Originally Posted by TPeterson View Post

I mean that KAXKID's point about the circular buffer causing a problem upon filling seems totally consistent with your experience too, so how can you say that you don't see why it would be important to expand it if you're going to buffer a 3+ hour program? Clearly there's a longstanding bug there and Steve has a workaround for it.
post #85 of 1797
Yes, Steve (or is that "steve"?) is our own KAXKID, whose shift keys seem to have broken just after he signed up for the Forum and picked out his handle.

HDD fragmentation does not always give completely repeatable results.
post #86 of 1797
Hey.

I have a Fusion 5 RT Lite here, using QAM. The 3.50.01 update has been perfect for me so far. Re-scanning brought back all my channels and the new 'process priority' setting is useful.
post #87 of 1797
The USB Remote does not work for controlling Windows Media Player 11. The MUTE button for example does vol down.

Hope Dvico issues a rev for the release of WMP11.

Bob
post #88 of 1797
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Originally Posted by jazjon View Post

Do you think they will ever be able to add QAM support in MCE? (ether 3rd party, or microsoft blessed)

Probably in Vista with an off the shelf PC with a trusted module on the mo'board. Whether or not you'll be able to use the fusion card is unknown.
post #89 of 1797
for ClearQAM, there is no need for a "trusted module".

The CableCard solution, which is "kinda" the holy grail for us Sports freaks(ESPNHD, INHD, ESPN2HD, Fox Sports Net HD, etc) will require a COMPLETE new Certified computer..not just an off the shelf PC with an add in card.. They have not been able/willing to tell us how expandable/upgradeable these new machines will be.. From the descriptions, they sound like more of a console than a Computer so far...
post #90 of 1797
This isn't related to this release of the software, but I'm having an audio issue on analog recordings. There is a low buzzing/hum sound in the recording which is not present when watching a show live. I'm not sure how the heck it is being introduced, but I'm open to suggestions... ?

Thanks,
Chris
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