Official MK - Miller & Kreisel Thread?!? - Page 103

hi all, i've been collecting m&k for the past few years and now i'm overstocked.
looking for some advice. i use 5 s-5000's for my fronts (audyssey), ss500thx for side surrounds and ss150thx tripole for surr. backs. i have acquired 3 s-100b's and a pair of s-90's with a v-125 sub. i'm looking to sell the s-100b's + sub with either the s-90's or the ss150thx tripoles for surround.

im not sure if i should swap (in my set up) the current surr. back ss150's for the s-90's as they timber match the s-5000's.

i cant find any info on the s90's online.

could use some advice.
thanks

The only information I was ever able to find was when M&K had them listed as discontinued on their site. - Like the S-100B there is little to no information about the S-90. It appears to be nearly identical to the S-80 (based on photos).
I have a pair of S-90s . I've used them with a MX-70 Sub. they sound killer! With my recent acquisition of S-5000THX I'm also considering using the S-90 or S100B as Surround Back speakers. I'm holding on to both sets for now since I haven't decided. After I find a single S-5000Thx for use as a center ( I'm using an S-100B Center at the moment) it might make the decision a bit easier.

Anyone have success contacting them lately? I need parts for my old M&K 750 system and have received bounce backs from the following e-mails:

service@thedolphingorup.com
service@mksoundusa.com
ab@mksoundsystem.com
lkj@mksoundsystem.com

The error I receive is-
Technical details of permanent failure:
DNS Error: Domain name not found

I've also called the 855-557-6863 the last 2 weeks and left messages and haven't received any callbacks. I called again today and tried contacting - sales, service, marketing, executive director, accounting and get automated voice mail on all of them. I'm wondering if MK Soundsystem is still in business.

my understanding is that MK sound was moving offices from the chicago area to california and dolphin group no longer has any affiliation with MK Sound USA. is there a service issue you need handled? perhaps myself or any of the other MK dealers can assist you? honestly i haven't needed to call them in a few weeks, but i assume if a number isn't working it might be related to that?

also the number i have on file 855-mksound which translates to 855-657-6863?

and for what it's worth, this press release was just issued today in europe. so someone somewhere is doing their job... (see press release 8/24/11)

http://www.enjoythemusic.com/news/

hope that alleviates some of your concerns...

M&K 950F floor standing? That is different. I hope they don't start making full range speakers next.

i like the idea of a floor standing. not everyone wants on the wall or has bookcases...i can def say i would prefer the 950f's over the reg for my personal set up.

I hate on the wall speakers, they pickup to much bass frequencies (muddy & boxy sounding!) and sound much better a few feet from the side and rear walls. I can understand MK Sound going with a floor standing speakers, this means you no longer need expensive stands or LDM stands that I used with my older 750 THX LCR's that are now used for my 950 LCR's.

I don't have an issue with floor standing speakers. The newer M&K does not have many options for stands (own brand) right now, so this makes sense. Full range M&K speakers would be taboo.

Why is there this practice of linking the new MK company with the old M&K company? M&K are now deceased, finished. MK Sound are the new company, but everywhere I look, M&K is still incorrectly referred to, and statements about MK Sound being founded in 1974 - it wasn't, M&K were. To my mind, MK Sound have only been around for about 4 years. Any explanation for this?

On another note, nice to see smaller push/pulls finally coming to the market!

I think the linking or comparison of the old and new companies makes sense because the new company's initial products were the same or similar products to those being sold when the old company went bust. But they are not the same company, and I'm sure all of us know that.

My guess is that M&K sound would like for us to think they have been around for some time. Even the timeline they have on their website goes back from the start of the original M&K. I would not doubt that some folks, even those who have original M&K speakers, don’t know there is a difference. I am just glad that the M&K Brand is not some $2 computer speaker currently. Many respectable speaker brands that went out of business wound up with their brand going down that road.

For one most of the people that worked for M&K that had a hand in developing the drivers for M&K are still with the new company, minus Ken. They also purchased to rights to patented M&K technology, I think of it as a new owner carrying the torch for someone who has fallen. Let me ask you this, if Ken had died and M&K had continued on in his name would you consider the company as M&K? MK Sound is just carrying on where M&K left off, however I do believe it to be incorrect to refer to MK Sound as M&K. The names have indeed changed, in reality M&K is dead.

This was not my impression. I thought this was discussed earlier in this thread as well?

Edit**

Here is where I got this impression.

i don't have an issue with it. to my knowledge MK Sound owns the intellectual property of M&K. A company can change ownership all it wants, doesn't mean they need to change the name. The new owners are committed to producing quality products, and continuing in the spirit of the original M&K product and i think they've proven that they don't intend to butcher the "M&K" name. so if they say they have been producing speakers since 74, its because they own the patents/intellectual property dating back to 74...

if you wanna talk about brand names, look at what klipsch did to the Energy name brand? a veritas today is not what a veritas was in 1995. should Energy call themselves something different?

i can see that it have been discuced the sound difference of these speakers. i have own 750 , s150 (mksound) and the new mkII. 950 i have in my living room for one week.
first - the 750 is much more bright than the other speakers listet. 950 is more brighter that s150. At reference level the difference is in my ears big. s150 is much more smooth , especialy the mk II. Dialog from s150 center is more clear than the 950. the s150 have a more full bodyed sound, and it is clear to hear that it has a lot more headroom vs 950.
in my book no surprices.
i hade the old s150, not the legacy but the MKsound for about three years and replaced them with the mk II a half year ago. the sound carateristic is the same. but they are defently difference in some cases. heer is some of the difference....the mk II vs the old ones - no egdes in the tweeter at all. the old ones cut sound a bit harsh at high volumes.
More open ,witt a more clear dialog. can handle more power, with out sounding stressed. it is more open and refinned. some off the critic the old ones have , is now been elemineted.
the finnish is better - nicer terminals. holes on the backside is rotated 90 degrees - the mount holes. there is a left and right speaker now.
hope you understand my pure english

my system:
3 x s150 mkII
2 x t150
2 x mx 350

Anthem avm50v
lexicon gx-7

Would you guys would still reckon that the MK 950's sound similar to the MK150's if the system is not pushed to extreme output levels ?

I would say for the most part simply because the MK950's are easy to listen to even at higher volume levels without that ear ringing fatigue, note that the MK150's are a bit more neutral and laid back which some (I) find a little less exciting. 2 cents

I dont Think that the
S150 are more laid back. They just dó dynamic with more ease. One Think that is very different is the pint point image and pans that the s150 have. The 950 is more diffuse.
In my book there issent Anything the 950 dó better than the s150.

I am selling some original M&K speakers pm me.

I have three MK 125s across the front and I want to mount them on the wall around my TV. Are these too big to mount on a wall? I do have easy access behind the wall if that makes a difference. What other options do I have to get this on/in wall and out of the way? Thanks

Yes, you can mount them on the wall. M&K built them to work with Omni mount wall mounts without having to modify them. I used to have 2 of them as rear speakers and they mount find as long as you hit a stud.

Thanks for the info. I did find on the old (2001) MK website listing my S-125s stating they were omnimount ready. Just seems like the speakers are too long to balance well since the omnimounts have that ball joint. I'm going to give it a try. And as for a stud, I'm going to screw in a 2x6 between my studs behind the wall to give me a good mounting surface while also providing much needed flexiblity to mount the speakers exactly where I want. Thanks again.

That mount had teeth that held the ball very well. You could not move them unless you loosened it up.

Hey all-Ken has a new logo up with a teaser pic of his new speakers. Looks very similar to the S-100B from those angles...
http://www.kreiselsound.com/_images/...es/drivers.jpg
http://www.kreiselsound.com/_images/...eisel_logo.png

That looks like a modified Surr-250 dipole speaker. 3 tweeters, 2 mids and a side firing driver.

That's what I thought at first. The speaker looks similar to a surround speaker as well, with the metal mesh side driver. However, I wonder if that side-firing driver has something to do with the "3D-HD" that Ken has suggested with his logos.

http://www.diynetwork.com/videos/oli...one/80841.html

Check this out. Found this on mksounds facebook page while checking out the new cedia 2011 coverage. Some new cool stuff from mksound at cedia.

Anyway, these DIY so called experts installed a new system for Oliver Stone using mksound. Check out how they placed and installed all the speakers. Video got all the attention and awesome mk speakers were an afterthought. Most of us on this thread could have done far better. You have to know your product if you want to be an installer.

Subs are thrown in what is essentially a closet. S-150's are placed on their sides. In-walls are thrown in the ceiling with no thought as to placement. Nice job gang!

Also, I love the comment seperates are old tech and a thing of the past.

Oliver Stone probably concluded that a CIA conspiracy messed up the installation.

Thanks for posting this. It's really funny to see that Oliver Stone as nearly the same setup as I do.

Sure, the ceiling install was kinda bad, but you always have to deal with room aesthetics.

I watched it and was like, "Hey, I used a Parasound C1" "Hey, I upgraded to an Integra processor." "Hey, I have M&K S-150s." "Hey, I gut cables like that before rewiring everything."

It was kind of a confirmation that I actually know what I'm doing. LOL