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post #3331 of 3633
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Originally Posted by JVoth View Post

Normally I get on here and tell people that no receiver will truly allow your M&K's to reach their true potential. For a 750 sq ft. apartment, I would say you should stick with what you have. I don't know what price range you are looking at either. But if you feel you must upgrade, then I will suggest the Marantz SR5005. You can get a b-stock unit at Accessories4less.com for around $500 or so. I am suggesting that particular model not because of a power upgrade, but because it has preouts. With preouts you can then buy yourself a separate amplifier later down the road. I will stick with the fact that these speakers were not meant to be powered by all-in-one receivers. They are power hungry and not exactly efficient. So that being said, I don't think in your situation with a smaller listening area, that a new receiver is going to give you better results as far as sound quality goes. An amplifier will, however. If you are worried about the 4 ohm rating, I ran my 750 system with a Yamaha receiver for several years before I discovered what separates can do, and I never had any issues at all.

Thanks. I am going to stick with the receiver and upgrade down the road when I need to.
post #3332 of 3633
www.kksoundstore.com

Just received an email announcement regarding Kreisel subwoofers. Interested to see how these perform.
Edited by snpanago - 6/25/12 at 6:37pm
post #3333 of 3633
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Originally Posted by snpanago View Post

www.kksoundstore.com
Just received an email announcement regarding Kreisel subwoofers. Interested to see how these perform.


I was just on the Kreisel Facebook page a couple of days ago. It would be nice to put a Full M&K fan / resource page up. the literature is still out there as well as the manuals and most of the original site info. however info on HOW TO, is scattered all over the web. and some info isn't easy to find at all. Like where the heck to find the foam appliques that Kreisel used on the original M&K products. Replacement badges would also be nice. I've been threatening to make a bunch but unless I find enough people interested, it would be a wast of money and time.

The new site you linked to is good news. ( sites a bit rough ) but the gear is up and ready for sale .
Good to see the Kreisel name on the face of a new Sub. the first question on my mind is how they fair against the subs that JL audio and Martin Logan are putting out ?
post #3334 of 3633
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Originally Posted by Bostown View Post

Replacement badges would also be nice. I've been threatening to make a bunch but unless I find enough people interested, it would be a wast of money and time.

Count me in as a replacement badge customer, Bostown. I have been on the lookout for badges/pins for my MX70s for a while now. Replacement dustcaps for subs with the old-school silkscreened "Discover Deep Bass" and "SuperFast Deep Bass" logos would be cool, too.
post #3335 of 3633
I just found this site and love reading all the post. I'm a new M&K speaker guy. A friend of mine had them in storage for about six years and finally got them. They sound awesome. In the front I have three s 150 thx l c r the sub is mx 100 and in the center of room I'm mounting a pair of ss-500 thx . He never found brackets for wall so I'm having some made. Do I need rear speakers and if I do what would be the best for what I have. The room is not that big 12wide x 18 long and what I have sounds great. Thanks for any response. At 60 years old not to tech savy so bear with me.
thanks
rowdy
post #3336 of 3633
S150 (L/C/R)
SS150 (2 side surrounds + 2 rear surrounds)
MX 150
MX 350
Rotel 5 chanell power amp (two)
Onkyo TX SR805
Lexicon MC8B
Have all of them since 2005
Just added in two auralex gramma for each of the two subwoofers; five auralex sub dude for each pre & power amp; sound processor and a Denon SACD player....Verdict...Just like 'born-again' but very definitive, improved tight bass and enhanced sound resolutions!!! Worth the investment....
Edited by Gideon - 6/28/12 at 8:36pm
post #3337 of 3633
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Originally Posted by erhurd View Post

I own a pair of M&K MX-70 subwoofers which I purchased new in 1993. Aging had finally gotten them to the point where they were both in serious need for re-edging. I sent Ken Kriesel an email requesting a referral for a competent shop close to San Diego, California where I could obtain service for the subs.


He directed me to Orange County Speakers in Santa Ana, California. I dropped them off the day after purchasing a new Marantz SR7005 AVR on April 2nd. I just picked the pair earlier this afternoon, connected them, ran Audessey setups and did some fine tuning. I am having the time of my life!


The speakers sound just like brand new and I have not been this excited about my subs since the day I bought and took the home for the first time. Unfortunately the repair, by necessity, had to proceed beyond just the simple re-edging job I initially wanted. The shop informed me yesterday that the subs would have to be reconed. I was in shock when I saw the dust caps. Generic replacements lacking my beloved "Discover Deep Bass" motto of M&K Sound. I used to love looking at the subs in the nude; I will be playing them now with the black fabric grill covers in place. A very minor disappointment compared to not having my two mini-monsters repaired and back and performing like new.


My hats off to the staff at Orange County Speakers in Santa Ana, California. It was well worth the time and effort for me to drive the 91 miles from my home to do business with them. I strongly endorse them to any living in Southern California or anywhere else in the world desiring expert service, affordable pricing and good turnarounds.

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Originally Posted by erhurd View Post


Followup: Earlier this morning I talked to the tech, Jeff, who worked on my subs and asked him if my old, logo-embossed dust caps were still there and would I be able to glue them down over the new ones. I held the phone while he checked; he informed me that they had not thrown them away in the trash yesterday evening during cleanup. And yes, I could glue them over the new dust caps.


He spent several minutes giving me tips for the glue job as well as promising to provide me with the adhesive to do it with. He said he would mail all of these materials to me at no additional charge when I offered to pay for it. Pleased that I will be able to admire the subs without the grill covers. Part of the allure for my purchase of the M&K Sound products was their appearance as well as their phenomenal sound.

700

A quick photo to show off the end result.
post #3338 of 3633
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Originally Posted by ckenisell View Post

Yeah, the only reason I knew is because I'm a graphic artist. Lorem Ipsum is used all the time because it contains all of the letters. When testing typographies/fonts/spacing/etc., it comes in handy.

I am also a graphic designer, Chet. Wondering if you know the name of the font used in the M&K Sound logo...

If, in fact, it is a font and not a vector graphic.
Edited by erhurd - 6/27/12 at 3:05pm
post #3339 of 3633
Comparing old and new M&K S150 speakers. The foam that is attached beside the front tweeters is slightly different. The old one has a much broader foam for the center tweeter plus the alighment of the foam is at between the edge of the adjacent tweeters. But the new one is aligned to the edge of the top and bottom tweeters. Heard from this forum that the new ones sound slightly more 'open'. Well, mine is the old ones and recently replaced all the foam with new ones. Unfortunately they do not provide the broader foam for the center tweeter. Just attached a single foam at between the edge of the adjacent tweeters and found out that the sound now is more 'open'. Could hear more transparency and dynamic of sound. So, could it be that the placement of the foam do play a part in creating a more enveloping sound that i am experiencing now. Music and movie sounds much more define and exciting!!! smile.gif
post #3340 of 3633
anyone ordering one of Ken's new subs? I wonder how the 700 with 8inch drivers would stack up against my 350sfx?
post #3341 of 3633
Any S-90 Satellite owners and users here?
post #3342 of 3633
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Originally Posted by Bostown View Post

Any S-90 Satellite owners and users here?

I used to have a pair.
post #3343 of 3633
Until I saw the literature , I was unaware just how much in common the S-90 has with the S-5000THX. Lots of the same components. in fact the lit mentions that the s-90 matches the S-5000THX within just a fraction of a db. and matches in timbre and flat response. NO THX licensing to jack the price up and a smaller package makes it flexible for placement. - All that spells S-150 THX killer to me. smile.gif
Edited by Bostown - 7/16/12 at 8:14pm
post #3344 of 3633
Im currently looking to buy a new center channel. I have the MK MX-150 subwoofer with a set of floorstanding Tannoys for the front and a Celestion 5 bookshelf as the center. I was wondering how the S-125C center speaker was in terms of quality and build. Never heard the speaker itself, but the other options were a a Martin Logan Motion 6 or 8 or a Energy CC-10. Granted the S-125C used would be cheaper than these options, but my dad vouches for MK. As far as matching timbre with the front Tannoys, i plan on building some new front towers within the year.
post #3345 of 3633
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Originally Posted by aznattic View Post

Im currently looking to buy a new center channel. I have the MK MX-150 subwoofer with a set of floorstanding Tannoys for the front and a Celestion 5 bookshelf as the center. I was wondering how the S-125C center speaker was in terms of quality and build. Never heard the speaker itself, but the other options were a a Martin Logan Motion 6 or 8 or a Energy CC-10. Granted the S-125C used would be cheaper than these options, but my dad vouches for MK. As far as matching timbre with the front Tannoys, i plan on building some new front towers within the year.
The S-125C is a very high quality speaker but unless you are going to get the matching mains, the timbre will be off dramatically. Have you thought about buying a set of 3 matching speakers or the matching Tannoy? If you are going to build a speaker to timbre match the S-125C, I would think it would be easier to just build 3 matching speakers if you have the ability and knowledge to do so, unlike myself. The results are not going to be very positive if you're center channel is different than the other 2 speakers.
post #3346 of 3633
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Originally Posted by Bostown View Post

Until I saw the literature , I was unaware just how much in common the S-90 has with the S-5000THX. Lots of the same components. in fact the lit mentions that the s-90 matches the S-5000THX within just a fraction of a db. and matches in timbre and flat response. NO THX licensing to jack the price up and a smaller package makes it flexible for placement. - All that spells S-150 THX killer to me. smile.gif
I was unaware of how much in common they had also. I haven't seen the s-90's in a long time whether it be eBay or elsewhere. You wouldn't happen to have a pic of those would you. You've piqued my curiosity a bit.
post #3347 of 3633
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Originally Posted by JVoth View Post

I was unaware of how much in common they had also. I haven't seen the s-90's in a long time whether it be eBay or elsewhere. You wouldn't happen to have a pic of those would you. You've piqued my curiosity a bit.

Yep, I am running the S-90's for Center and rears
post #3348 of 3633
Dear Bostown,

I'm a big S-90 fan. 5 pairs
I use
S1-Cs in my living room,
S-100Bs in my theater, but
S-90s in the bedroom, office, wife's office, music studio, etc. Anywhere where a bookshelf speaker is the right size.
Note that they are 4ohm sealed enclosure's so do require an amp capable of driving the 4Ohm load. I've typically paired them with either Parasound HCA-750As (class AB) , or Sonos ZP 100s (digital 4Ohm capable).
Silk dome tweeters are same across the range. Paired on the S-90 with a 6 1/4" woofer.

As a few people mentioned, similar in design to the S-5000. Has enough bass extension to use on it's own. If you've got the subs, I've got a MX-700 in the bedroom, MX-70 in my office and a VX-100 in wife's office and they do add.
I've also got a pair of S-80s. More appropriate as rear or surround. Same tweeter, but either 4 or 5" woofer.

Arguably, I've got more S-90s than I need. If someone wants to pick up a pair permanently, or even long term audition, PM me.

Arlo
post #3349 of 3633
Alright another S1-C owner - not one that gets talked about much. I sure like them! We drove all over the state doing blind test with movies to music, they were the best sounding across the range of what I would be doing with them. Had a CD of a concert, you could hear the woodwinds inhale, fingers on guitar strings, lots of differences that where not heard other speakers. The other guy that went with me sold home theater equipment for a living, said afterwards that he was really glad he went, blew away his expectations, etc.
post #3350 of 3633
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Originally Posted by Bostown View Post

Until I saw the literature , I was unaware just how much in common the S-90 has with the S-5000THX. Lots of the same components. in fact the lit mentions that the s-90 matches the S-5000THX within just a fraction of a db. and matches in timbre and flat response. NO THX licensing to jack the price up and a smaller package makes it flexible for placement. - All that spells S-150 THX killer to me. smile.gif

I am not sure I agree. My 5000's had more output. We actually did a blind test between 3 speakers in stereo mode(80 hz cross into my subs) and played the same music. The speaker that impressed the most was the SS-500THX dipole surround. It sound awesome on 2 channel and could handle more power than the S-90. The 5000 was first, then its surround counterpart, and then the S-90. The S-90 can take 200 watts where the 5000 can take lots more. I am not sure what is different but the 5000 also has the open back transmission line tweeters and the S-90's don't. The 5000's also have 4 drivers where the S-90 has 2. The S-90 sounds great but not 5000 great. I like their sound better than the S-150's but the 150's played a little louder than the S-90's. Better than both and right behind the 5000 are the S-250's!
post #3351 of 3633
If anyone could post a pic of an S-90, I would appreciate it. I can't seem to place them as far their physical appearance goes in my mind. All this talk about them has definitely made me curious about these models.
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3 pics of S-90.
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How much does the speaker weigh? Wishing I could hear the pair playing!
post #3354 of 3633
Looking to buy several MPS-2510P and S-150P, if anyone consider selling please send a message with asking price. Many thanks guys. Greetings, Bob.
post #3355 of 3633
I have 3 s-90speakers ( 1 shielded ) that have been stored in my gargage, they work great, but I'm considering selling any suggestion on what I should ask for them?
post #3356 of 3633
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Originally Posted by CHagen7 View Post

Fischer,

Yes, it can work on 220-230 volt. There is a red area on the back that is a decal denoting it's set working voltage. If it's not set up for 230V when you get it, then do the following before plugging it into the wall and turning it on:
simply remove the label, put the switch to 230V

switch out the fuse for the correct value fuse (noted on the amp plate artwork)

It's very simple, with at worst a run to your local store that sells the correct fuse. Let me know how it works out.
Chris

Chris, is this true also for the powered S-150P from 2002 and 2003? Anyone knows this? Thanks much.
post #3357 of 3633
Hi, has anyone compared the M&K 2510P or S-150P with the Genelec 8240A AutoCal DSP speakers?
To be connected behind a Lexicon MC-12B.. of course the killer would be if the Lex had AES/EBU output per each channel to go directly digital into the 8240A...
post #3358 of 3633
Guys I need a little help here. I was wondering if you could give me a good idea on how much to pay for a pair of
Miller Kreisel M&K MPS-2525 Active Tripole Surround

condition looks to be 8/10

And one more question, will these match with the S-150THX LCR speakers?

I plan on pairing these to the sides and get a pair of M&K CS-25s for the back speakers.


Opinions and thoughts welcome!
post #3359 of 3633
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Originally Posted by starcat View Post

Looking to buy several MPS-2510P and S-150P, if anyone consider selling please send a message with asking price. Many thanks guys. Greetings, Bob.

PM sent a couple days ago re: the S-150P's.
post #3360 of 3633
opinions?

I currently have 3 S-150's up front and 2 SS-150's for surrounds. I was just lucky enough to grab another pair of S-150's. I can only run 5.1. I can sell either pair and make money. S-150's or SS-150's as surrounds? The obvious is demo both and decide between Tri/Di pole vs direct radiating. Any other arguments one way or the other?

The foam between the tweeters on my new S-150's are pressed down pretty hard. They're totally functional and in great condition. It is really and nitpick cosmetic issue. The middle pieces are the fat ones. I have the skinny replacements but have never needed to use them. What solvent is recommended to remove adhesive from the foam pieces once they're removed? Should I just leave as is?

There are a few very minor stubborn scuff marks on the cabinets. Very minor cosmetic issue. Any tips?

Also, there is a small crack in the corner of one of the grill frames. It also is very minor and doesn't affect function. Wood glue or epoxy for a easy fix?
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