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post #61 of 181
Ok, here goes, I ditched my homework and watched Forbidden Planet last night.
My frame of reference on this movie is SD TV broadcast, LD and the DVD released a few years ago. I have not seen the HDNET broadcast.
I have not done an A/B with the DVD but will do so later.
Anyone looking for a reference title better look elsewhere but the definition of "reference" around here is pretty fluid.

Color rendition is very natural and saturated.
Fleshtones at the beginning of the movie vary a bit from scene to scene but settle in after the first 10 minutes or so to what I consider a natural look.
Hair has nice detail and is appropriately shiny
Overall the movie is a bit on the soft side with some scenes being very sharp and other not so much. I thought overall, clarity and detail was excellent.
Don't expect to see facial pores etc.
I saw details in Robby's metal exoskeleton that I don't remember seeing before.
The actor's makeup is also apparent but not distracting.
I don't know what the term is but I did notice sporadic white dots where the film looked like it was damaged. It doesn't happen very often, is very fleeting and was not distracting to me.
I tried to watch the movie critically but at times I lapsed into immersion so I very well could have missed some things.
I saw no artifacts or noise.

Specific scenes:
The starfield scenes are far better than I remember from the DVD. Very nice.
The landing scene, the set is very crisp and colors are nice. You can tell they're on a set but is has some pretty nice depth and looks good.
Morbius' house is very colorful with Martha Stewart cornhusk being the predominant color. The metal sculptures and furniture all have nice detail and dimensionality.
The Krell lab and subterranean machine scenes are killer.
The monster id scene is good as well with the evening sets having more depth, detail and color subtlety than I remember.

What was interesting to me about the deleted scene footage is that is looks almost identical in quality, i.e., murky & dark, as the TV broadcasts from years ago. For instance, in the Navigation center in the saucer there's a lucite globe with a little saucer model in the center, in the deleted scenes the saucer is orangey which is how I remember it from TV.
In the movie it is a deeply saturated polished red.

The audio was about what I expected, close mike sound and limited frequency but dialog is clear. I haven't finished tweaking the sound in my room yet so your experience may be different but I did not detect any side\
ear surround activity which was a bit disappointing. In fact some of the extra scenes have more surround action than the feature.

OK I've gone on long enough, please forgive me, but Forbidden Planet has a very special place in my movie vault.
People who are aware of this movie need no recommendation from me.
You are either going to buy it no matter what or you don't care.
Highly recommended.
post #62 of 181
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Originally Posted by bboisvert View Post

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It's identical to the regular edition, but adds:
* Metal case packaging
* Collectible Robby the Robot replica with moveable limbs
* Forbidden Planet and The Invisible Boy reproduction lobby cards portfolio
* Forbidden Planet original theatrical poster mail-in offer

BS those limbs don't move or if they do Its so difficult that I think I am going to break it.
post #63 of 181
I got this from Amazon yesterday.

I watched it late last night.

For an old movie, is actually very nice to watch, especially considering its age.

The attractive young lady , the daughter is gorgeous.

Details of the house, the facial features and the robot are all fairly clear, and worthy of dvd, NOT HD DVD quality comparison.

The special effects of course are dated so saying there they look hi res or great in hi res is not really fair but they are QUITE passible once you got used to realizing they were done with sets.

I saw the special effects folks worked courtesy of Disney, which was interesting.

I never saw the regular DVD, but I think if you like the movie its well worth the purchase.

This will probably be the absolute best short of a massive computer scan in some future technology its going to look.

Its an easy one sitting movie too, not being too long.

All in all nice HD-DVD. I would not buy it though if you have the regular dvd unless you really like this specific movie. I am a sci fi fan but did not own the sd-dvd so it was a no brainer choice for me.

Watching it was a very enjoyable experience, and there were quite a few actors faces I recognized.

On a funny note, the actor who plays their communications officer, played Oscar Goldman in the Bionic Woman, and the Six Million Dollar man , both of which I recently bought from Amazon uk on DVD.
post #64 of 181
Watched the HD-DVD this afternoon. I also have the regular DVD. The color and sharpness of the HD-DVD is superior to the DVD. The MGM matte paintings of the Krell lab and the planet were rich and very very well done. Flesh tones were good, but the make up the actors wore and the Brylcreme was very obvious. Anne Francis has amazing legs.

The extras including lost footage and deleted scenes were great to watch.
post #65 of 181
I had a guy looking for this today at work, but our computer system has it listed as DELETED. Did it get delayed?
post #66 of 181
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Originally Posted by Art Sonneborn View Post

'55 here and thinking with all the great stuff in HD it's great time to be alive. Think about it , how long have you wanted to be able to rival a commercial theater presentation in your home ? It's been at least 30 years for me . Well guess what, we are doing it finally, enjoy my old friends !

Art

I bought a HC3000 front projector for well under $2000. I have a HD XA1 player. I am now watching some of my favorite movies in HD DVD or wonderfully upconverted standard DVD on a screen over 100 inches. I have a great speaker and AVR receiver with 5.1 analog inputs I bought a couple years ago that are finally reaching their potential.

No matter how good or bad the HD DVD is it is still superior to anything every available to me before, FMJ, TPS or Spartacus included.

I have more HD DVD goodness available than I can watch and Netflix is shipping me a new HD DVD movie every other day.

It is a good time to be a home theater enthusiast.
post #67 of 181
Being picky, I thought there was more fine grain (that was probably in the source) and at in certain scenes a slightly washed out quality, almost like a too low gamma was applied, especially in the initial meeting at Morbius' house. I think the telecineist may have been trying to get uniformity of brightness and color throughout the film and perhaps made adjustments in given scenes.

Overall, though, and with the proper brightness or gamma or even projector lamp setting, this is an overall cleaner more stable picture with no episodic blocking or mosquito noise, and closer to the source even with the above minor qualifications than the HDNET broadcast . If you're a more casual fan of this film and have the HDNET broadcast saved, keep that and save $20. But true fans should get this HD DVD even though it is not reference quality video.

Here are some screenshots just for entertainment. They don't capture the fine details I'm talking about.













Dan
post #68 of 181
Those screen caps look great drapp1952!
post #69 of 181
Hey Milt99!

I first saw forbidden planet at a neighborhood movie. Next moved on to VHS ... then to Laserdisc ... then to DVD ... and now to HD-DVD !!

WOW! What amazing detail is present in the HD version. I thoroughly concur with your review of the technicals of the HD-DVD presentation.

How can these older movies look so good when re-mastered for HD-DVD? I found the same for The Searchers, Casablanca, and Robin Hood.

To the Studios: Keep up the work in re-mastering the "old masters" ... I'll buy 'em each and every one.
post #70 of 181
Gorgeous screen shots!
post #71 of 181
The actual disc looks even better!
post #72 of 181
"Forbidden Planet" is one of my favorites and looks great in HD-DVD. Also what an awesome unintentional commentary on screwed-up Fifties sexuality: horny spacemen drooling over a blonde too innocent (dumb?) to know she's in danger! You've got to admit we're evolving!

I saw this last night and as I expected you could clearly see the "sun dress" she's wearing in the pool scene. They went to all these lengths to imply she was (gasp!) swimming NUDE ("What's a bathing suit?") and then here comes that crazy cut--a redeeming flash of morality as she pushes herself out of the pool--which lets you see she's wearing a dress! Like I said, screwed up...but what fun!
post #73 of 181
I have owned 2 laser versions, and one dvd version of FP....hands down the hd-dvd is the clear winner...I saw things I had never seen before, this was a A production all the way.....and all the bonus stuff and not the collectors editon price...wow.hd-dvd is CHEAPER THAN THE DVD VERSION with all the bonus features....two thumbs WAY up
post #74 of 181
I was very impressed with the HDDVD. No question it has more detail and essentially no compression/ bit rate related issues like the HDNet version. If you are even the least bit a fan of this film, or Sci Fi generally, it is my opinion that you will be doing yourself an injustice by not getting this. After I see if I want to make comparisons any more for fun I'll delete my HDnet version.

Thanks for the screen shots!

Art
post #75 of 181
One other thing I noticed was with the initial tiger scene.
When the tiger enters the picture, Altaira looks superimposed as her image gets slightly softer, then as the tiger moves through the scene and exits from left to right I can just barely notice the superimposed mattes containing the animal.
Not a nit or a pick, just a testament to the revealing nature of HD.

I also saw no strings on the saucer

I sincerely hope that the studios keep releasing the eclectic variety of movies such as this. Eye-poppers like Kong are great and make for impressive demos but in my book, I'll take a Casablanca, The Searchers etal, because of the sheer viewing pleasure a well-crafted dynamite looking movie gives.
post #76 of 181
Its amazing that at 50 years old this film stand up pretty well to current SF.
post #77 of 181
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Originally Posted by Milt99 View Post

One other thing I noticed was with the initial tiger scene.
When the tiger enters the picture, Altaira looks superimposed as her image gets slightly softer, then as the tiger moves through the scene and exits from left to right I can just barely notice the superimposed mattes containing the animal.
Not a nit or a pick, just a testament to the revealing nature of HD.

I also saw no strings on the saucer

I sincerely hope that the studios keep releasing the eclectic variety of movies such as this. Eye-poppers like Kong are great and make for impressive demos but in my book, I'll take a Casablanca, The Searchers etal, because of the sheer viewing pleasure a well-crafted dynamite looking movie gives.

Yes a very famous piece in that as the tiger approaches Altaira when it turns it's head to the left it fades away as it's outside of that area of superimposition. No strings on C57D but when Robby carries the moribund doctor into the room, strings supporting his wieght so Robby doesn't have to are clearly visible.

Art
post #78 of 181
Dang it-- Amazon won't have my copy to me until next Friday. I love this movie- I'm amazed I'll finally be able to get some hint of what it might really have looked like projected on film. On a related note, I can't wait until there's an official date for 2001 (which I have seen projected- when I was about three feet tall *lol*)
post #79 of 181
I eagerly look forward to getting this disc, but no video format can ever match the look of the restored print I saw in Denver on the big screen back in the 80s.
post #80 of 181
Sounds awesom-O!!!

I picked up mine at a local Movie store for $34 for the Ultimate collection
post #81 of 181
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Originally Posted by RobertR View Post

I eagerly look forward to getting this disc, but no video format can ever match the look of the restored print I saw in Denver on the big screen back in the 80s.

That's why I choose my words carefully. I lived in Denver in the 80's- didn't know there was a release of FP!! Did you see it at the Cooper??
post #82 of 181
One of my all-time favorite movies that has clearly stood the test of time after 50 years. It blows away just about ever other SciFi movie from that era and was way ahead of its time. I was lucky enough to see movies like Star Wars, Alien, and the Thing in the theater when they came out. I've had to wait until now to get a similar experience for this great classic.

It definitely deserved the HD treatment and WB has done a fantastic job with this release. A pleasure to watch with great detail, color, etc. Highly, highly recommended.
post #83 of 181
drapp1952.... I just saved that screen cap you posted of the ship entering orbit as the desktop wallpaper for my HTPC... look pretty awesome! Thanks again...
post #84 of 181
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I lived in Denver in the 80's- didn't know there was a release of FP!! Did you see it at the Cooper??

Do you remember the Ogden theater? It was a wonderful old theater on Colfax that specialized in film revival. They'd show titles such as The Thief of Baghdad, Lawrence of Arabia, The Time Machine, and many others. It all stopped with the rise of video, though.
post #85 of 181
God I love HDDVD.....it allows me to see details I never saw before, and now on one of my most favorite Sci Fi films out there. This movie just never gets old, and I'm a mere 35, compared to the rest of you fossils!

Now, I have to say I am *somewhat* disappointed in the visuals department. On the one hand everything looked very, very clean. But the disc lacks the ultra high super sharpness that I was hoping to see. Oh, the detail is definately there....and many scenes look absolutely amazing....I am particularly impressed with the way the film has very little noticible grain or noise.

But at the same time, some scenes show their flaws....things I had hoped would be corrected in restoration. Example, the bluish tinges to the 'blacks' in the scene where the "invisible" Krell Monster enters the ship...where the camera passes by the two on-guard crewmembers and one asks "Do you hear that...? Like Breathing?".

There are also a couple of scenes where I see vignetting in the upper r/l corners, also taking on a bluish tint where I would expect to see black. Thought it was my equipment, but it doesn't appear to be (DLP projector). There are also a couple of scenes where the focus is significantly softer, but thankfully these are the exeption to the rule...when I saw the intro with the starfield and the saucer and the title lettering, I knew they'd done a bang up job

Saw for the first time: The detail of the Robby costume....its manufacturing and texture marks.

Also noticed the transluscent tiger with Anne Francis for the first time!
I remember watching the DVD (and VHS before it many moons ago) and wondering "my god, how did they tame that tiger to just rush up and stop, and why didn't she bolt away..that tiger charges pretty good before it finally stops, you'd think she'd at least FLINCH!". DUH... Now I know why

Overall, I would have liked an ever so slightly sharper transfer....but considering the films age, this may be as good as it gets. Loving it.

PS: The extras are quite nicely done, and I must say...Anne Francis still looks gorgeous. Whats she...almost 70? How long ago was that interview done...?
post #86 of 181
Anne Francis is now 76 and photos of her appearance a week or so ago at the Egyptian Theater's screening of "Forbidden Planet" indicate she is still stunning.
post #87 of 181
I was ten when I first saw this film at the Plaza Theater. Obviously, I can't remember what the original showings looked like (the invisible Id monster's footprints in the sand scared me to death), but this HD version is as gorgeous as Anne Francis.
post #88 of 181
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Originally Posted by boblinds View Post

Anne Francis is now 76 and photos of her appearance a week or so ago at the Egyptian Theater's screening of "Forbidden Planet" indicate she is still stunning.

Any idea how old she was when that documentary was made? Based on her hairstyle I'm guessing it was fairly recently, within the past 3-4 years but thats just a guess. (???)
post #89 of 181
Here's what Ms. Francis looked like about a week ago:

http://www.dailyceleb.com/production...HPSESSID=004ed
post #90 of 181
Here is the link for the Egyptian Theater Screening again. Damn Bob you beat me to it by 2 minuteshttp://www.dailyceleb.com/production...95227ee93dbcd9
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