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post #31 of 548
indeed. Thx!
post #32 of 548
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Originally Posted by drbonbi View Post

Answer to first question: yes!

Answer to second question. I just made sure that HDMI audio was active on the BD10. Then: enjoy!

Dana

Thanks. This really sounds like a great product and a good solution till the whole 1.3 thing if figured out.
Any more impressions from you would be great!!!
post #33 of 548
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Originally Posted by shamus1099 View Post

Thanks. This really sounds like a great product and a good solution till the whole 1.3 thing if figured out.
Any more impressions from you would be great!!!

I think HDMI 1.3 is going to make the situation for the consumer more complicated. Here's the spec from Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDMI

"HDMI 1.3

"Released 22 June 2006.[2] [3]

" * Increases single-link bandwidth to 340 Mhz (10.2 Gbps)
" * Supports 30-bit, 36-bit, and 48-bit (RGB or YCbCr) color depths or over one billion colors, up from 24-bit in previous versions.
" * Supports xvYCC color standards.
" * Incorporates automatic audio syncing (lip sync) capability.
" * Supports output of Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD Master Audio streams for external decoding by AV receivers.[4] TrueHD and DTS-HD are lossless audio codec formats used on HD DVDs and Blu-ray Discs. If the disk player can decode these streams into uncompressed audio, then HDMI 1.3 is not necessary, as all versions of HDMI can transport uncompressed audio.
" * Availability of a new mini connector for devices such as camcorders.[5]
" * PlayStation 3 is the first product available on consumer market with HDMI 1.3."

Note particularly subparagraph five. At the moment when we want to know whether a high def device supports decoding of Dolby TrueHD and/or DTS-HD, we look to the player. When HDMI 1.3 connections are supported by both players and receivers, it will resemble a shell game. Which one decodes what?

In my opinion, the reason the PlayStation 3 does incorporate HDMI 1.3 is that Sony did not want to support decoding these new formats on the PS 3 so it offloads them via HDMI 1.3. But, since no receiver currently supports HDMI 1.3, there is no support at all for these new codec formats for PS 3 owners.

Early into this high def disc era, information is sketchy. One thing I liked about the BD10-XR700 combo on the audio side is that Panasonic makes the straight out assertion that Dolby Digital Plus will work. http://panasonic.co.jp/pavc/global/b...onvenient.html

"8ch Linear PCM Input through HDMI

"The DMP-BD10 decodes the Dolby® Digital Plus format's 7.1-channel surround sound signals, converts them to linear PCM, and outputs them through an HDMI terminal. The SA-XR700 receives these signals through its HDMI terminal and digitally amplifies them to produce a dynamic 7.1-channel surround sound. Only HDMI-compatible products can unlock the full digital surround sound potential made possible by the huge amount of audio data on a Blu-ray disc."

And of course an added benefit is that there is just one manufacturer involved. It is all too easy otherwise for one manufacturer to point to the other and claim that it's the other component that is at fault when things don't work.

Even so, there are conflicting statements in various Panasonic documents. For example, from the quote above, we learn that Dolby Digital Plus 7.1 is converted to LPCM for output via HDMI by the BD-10. But, page 9 of the BD10 player Manual says "When playing BD-video, only LPCM or Dolby Digital Plus can be output as 7.1 ch."

On the same page it says

"Dual HDMI Input
"Equipped with two HDMI input terminals and one output terminal, the SA-XR700 can connect with both the DMP-BD10 Blu-ray Disc Player and another HDMI-compatible video component, such as an HD-broadcast set-top box.

But, on page 7 of the XR700 manual we read

"HDMI connection
"The HDMI input terminal on the unit's rear is made to specifications that presume connection of a DVD recorder/DVD player. When other equipment is connected, sounds may not come out of the unit, or pictures shown on the equipment (TV) connected to the HDMI output terminal may be disrupted.
"In such cases, see page 19 and make connections other than HDMI."

And not everyone agrees as to what LPCM really is. But one definition is

"Linear PCM is an uncompressed audio format. It can have up to 8 channels of audio at 48khz or 96khz sampling frequency and 16, 20 or 24 bits per sample. It has a maximum bitrate of a huge 6.144 MB/s. It's also known as LPCM." http://www.afterdawn.com/glossary/terms/linear_pcm.cfm

Having said all of this, it is even harder to get confirmation from some other AVR manufacturers that their equipment can handle 8-channel LPCM via HDMI. There just is no mention of it.

Sorry about the length of the above. Corrections or clarifications are welcome.

Dana

PS. Apparently, both the BD10 and the XR700 have HDMI 1.2a.
post #34 of 548
Thanks for the info, but you forgot to say if you like it or not.
post #35 of 548
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Originally Posted by drbonbi View Post

I just finished watching "The Great Raid" with the Panny DMP-BD10 connected to the Panny SA-XR700 by HDMI for video and audio. Sensational.

Dana

For comparison purposes, I am curious if you had a different receiver prior to the panny xr700.
post #36 of 548
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Originally Posted by calvin c View Post

For comparison purposes, I am curious if you had a different receiver prior to the panny xr700.

I had a Panny HTIB with an Oppo 971 upconverting DVD player.

Dana
post #37 of 548
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Originally Posted by shamus1099 View Post

Thanks for the info, but you forgot to say if you like it or not.

If you can't tell, I like it! I like it!!

Dana
post #38 of 548
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Originally Posted by drbonbi View Post

If you can't tell, I like it! I like it!!

Dana

Do you find that the panny receiver is "brighter" in sound with the all-digital amps?
post #39 of 548
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Originally Posted by drbonbi View Post

I think HDMI 1.3 is going to make the situation for the consumer more complicated. Here's the spec from Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDMI

"HDMI 1.3

"Released 22 June 2006.[2] [3]

" * Increases single-link bandwidth to 340 Mhz (10.2 Gbps)
" * Supports 30-bit, 36-bit, and 48-bit (RGB or YCbCr) color depths or over one billion colors, up from 24-bit in previous versions.
" * Supports xvYCC color standards.
" * Incorporates automatic audio syncing (lip sync) capability.
" * Supports output of Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD Master Audio streams for external decoding by AV receivers.[4] TrueHD and DTS-HD are lossless audio codec formats used on HD DVDs and Blu-ray Discs. If the disk player can decode these streams into uncompressed audio, then HDMI 1.3 is not necessary, as all versions of HDMI can transport uncompressed audio.
" * Availability of a new mini connector for devices such as camcorders.[5]
" * PlayStation 3 is the first product available on consumer market with HDMI 1.3."

Note particularly subparagraph five. At the moment when we want to know whether a high def device supports decoding of Dolby TrueHD and/or DTS-HD, we look to the player. When HDMI 1.3 connections are supported by both players and receivers, it will resemble a shell game. Which one decodes what?

In my opinion, the reason the PlayStation 3 does incorporate HDMI 1.3 is that Sony did not want to support decoding these new formats on the PS 3 so it offloads them via HDMI 1.3. But, since no receiver currently supports HDMI 1.3, there is no support at all for these new codec formats for PS 3 owners.

Early into this high def disc era, information is sketchy. One thing I liked about the BD10-XR700 combo on the audio side is that Panasonic makes the straight out assertion that Dolby Digital Plus will work. http://panasonic.co.jp/pavc/global/b...onvenient.html

"8ch Linear PCM Input through HDMI

"The DMP-BD10 decodes the Dolby® Digital Plus format's 7.1-channel surround sound signals, converts them to linear PCM, and outputs them through an HDMI terminal. The SA-XR700 receives these signals through its HDMI terminal and digitally amplifies them to produce a dynamic 7.1-channel surround sound. Only HDMI-compatible products can unlock the full digital surround sound potential made possible by the huge amount of audio data on a Blu-ray disc."

And of course an added benefit is that there is just one manufacturer involved. It is all too easy otherwise for one manufacturer to point to the other and claim that it's the other component that is at fault when things don't work.

Even so, there are conflicting statements in various Panasonic documents. For example, from the quote above, we learn that Dolby Digital Plus 7.1 is converted to LPCM for output via HDMI by the BD-10. But, page 9 of the BD10 player Manual says "When playing BD-video, only LPCM or Dolby Digital Plus can be output as 7.1 ch."

On the same page it says

"Dual HDMI Input
"Equipped with two HDMI input terminals and one output terminal, the SA-XR700 can connect with both the DMP-BD10 Blu-ray Disc Player and another HDMI-compatible video component, such as an HD-broadcast set-top box.

But, on page 7 of the XR700 manual we read

"HDMI connection
"The HDMI input terminal on the unit's rear is made to specifications that presume connection of a DVD recorder/DVD player. When other equipment is connected, sounds may not come out of the unit, or pictures shown on the equipment (TV) connected to the HDMI output terminal may be disrupted.
"In such cases, see page 19 and make connections other than HDMI."

And not everyone agrees as to what LPCM really is. But one definition is

"Linear PCM is an uncompressed audio format. It can have up to 8 channels of audio at 48khz or 96khz sampling frequency and 16, 20 or 24 bits per sample. It has a maximum bitrate of a huge 6.144 MB/s. It's also known as LPCM." http://www.afterdawn.com/glossary/terms/linear_pcm.cfm

Having said all of this, it is even harder to get confirmation from some other AVR manufacturers that their equipment can handle 8-channel LPCM via HDMI. There just is no mention of it.

Sorry about the length of the above. Corrections or clarifications are welcome.

Dana

PS. Apparently, both the BD10 and the XR700 have HDMI 1.2a.

As a very happy PS3 owner, this is a very informative, thought provoking post.

Barring some shock, I can't imagine Sony (or anyone else) coming up with some kind of mutlichannel analog solution or adapter for the PS3, especially if the PS3's hardware wouldn't even make it viable to begin with.

So that's where my potential upgrade might come in to play. This receiver is a potential candidate as are the two new Yamahas, the 1700 and 2700.

HDMI 1.2a switching seems to be all anyone needs as far as audio concerns go. I could plug my Onkyo 1000 and PS3 into the receiver via HDMI and be off to the races from there.

Obviously, there's always that "upgraditis fear" in the back of my mind that says: I don't want to be right back in this same spot again in a year or two.

You all know how that goes.

What am I not taking into consideration if I upgraded receivers to something like this in the near future?

The only thing my HK AVR635 doesn't have is HDMI switching.
post #40 of 548
I downloaded the manual and read it.
This seems like a great solution to the next generation players.... Heres some highlights:
Being able to pass 1080p via HDMI.
Being able to pass LPCM 8 channels(7.1) via HDMI.
Selectable crossover frequencies.
7.1.
Every "last generation" sound format.
Bi-amp capabilities.
Wireless port for rear speakers or a different room.

Some improvements:
More selectable crossover frequencies(lowest is 80).
Cant select crossover frequencies for different speakers(only one choice for all).
Would of liked some kind of room correction abilities.
A meatier amp or at least pre outs.
post #41 of 548
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Originally Posted by calvin c View Post

Do you find that the panny receiver is "brighter" in sound with the all-digital amps?

No.

Dana
post #42 of 548
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Originally Posted by Q of BanditZ View Post

As a very happy PS3 owner, this is a very informative, thought provoking post.
...

What am I not taking into consideration if I upgraded receivers to something like this in the near future?
...

The only thing my HK AVR635 doesn't have is HDMI switching.

I really don't know enough about what the PlayStation 3 outputs for HMDI audio to answer the question fully. Does it decode Dolby Digital Plus into eight channel LPCM? What we do know is that the PS 3 does not decode Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD Master Audio so if you want these features of Blu-ray discs in the future, you will need a receiver that has HDMI 1.3 to receive these streams from the PS 3 and decode them. None exists at present.

Dana
post #43 of 548
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Originally Posted by drbonbi View Post

I really don't know enough about what the PlayStation 3 outputs for HMDI audio to answer the question fully. Does it decode Dolby Digital Plus into eight channel LPCM? What we do know is that the PS 3 does not decode Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD Master Audio so if you want these features of Blu-ray discs in the future, you will need a receiver that has HDMI 1.3 to receive these streams from the PS 3 and decode them. None exists at present.

Dana

I thought the PS3 does decode everything?
post #44 of 548
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Originally Posted by drbonbi View Post

I really don't know enough about what the PlayStation 3 outputs for HMDI audio to answer the question fully. Does it decode Dolby Digital Plus into eight channel LPCM? What we do know is that the PS 3 does not decode Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD Master Audio so if you want these features of Blu-ray discs in the future, you will need a receiver that has HDMI 1.3 to receive these streams from the PS 3 and decode them. None exists at present.

Dana


Here's what SCEA told me, relevant items bolded:

Quote:



The PLAYSTATION(R)3 computer entertainment system will support audio technology such as Dolby
Digital 5.1 ch, DTS 5.1 ch, LPCM 7.1 ch, AAC, and others.<1> <2>

To playback sound recorded on your
DVD/software in Dolby Digital (AC-3) or DTS format to reproduce the effect of listening in a movie
theater or concert hall, you must connect to audio equipment with the ability to decode DTS or Dolby
Digital sound (sold separately).

You must connect the component via the DIGITAL OUT (OPTICAL)
connector using an optical digital cable (sold separately).

<1> A device compatible with Linear PCM 7.1 Ch. is required to output 7.1 Ch. audio, supported by
Dolby TrueHD or a similar format, from the HDMI OUT connector.

<2> This system does not support output from the DTS-HD 7.1 Ch. DTS-HD 7.1 Ch. audio is output from
a 5.1 or lower channel.

I'm using a 5.1 setup. I hope that information is well known for people with 6.1 or 7.1 setups.


Apply this to me.

In other words: I need a receiver that probably has HDMI 1.1 at least to get all the nice audio codecs off of BD discs?

With the PS3, there's no if, ands, or buts about it otherwise.

That's the message I'm getting here.



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When you connect to an audio component with a built in DTS or Dolby Digital decoder set the "DIGITAL
OUT (OPTICAL) to "On" in the "System Configuration."

To utilize the "DIGITAL OUT (OPTICAL)" feature of the PLAYSTATION(R)3 system, you should plug in
the (yellow) "Video" connectors only. You should also disconnect the Left and Right Audio (white and
red) connectors that may be installed into your television/stereo. Every setup can vary depending
upon the make and model of your equipment, so there may be exceptions to this. One such example
would be when you may be using an RFU adapter to relay the video and sound information to the
television.

Duh.


Quote:



NOTE: The PLAYSTATION(R)3 system allows you to configure the audio output settings independent of
the display output settings.

You may need to make sure the correct audio out setting is selected
for your installation.
1. To choose the audio output setting go to the Settings icon.
2. Navigate down to Sounds Settings and press "X".
3. Navigate to Audio Output Settings and press "X".
4. You will be then prompted to choose from "AV Multi Out port", "Digital Out (optical) port", or
"HDMI Out port". Highlight the output port of you setup and press "X".
5. The audio output of the PLAYSTATION(R)3 system will now output audio from the port you have
selected.

The only real wild card here is: Could that multiAV port be used for multichannel analog outputs down the road or could there be a funky HDMI-multichannel analog audio adapter that could ever be made and come out?

I suspect the answer is "no" to both.
post #45 of 548
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Originally Posted by Ultimate AV Mag View Post

The unit does indeed have the ability to decode Dolby TrueHD, and is HDMI version 1.3 equipped, which means that when AVRs and Pre-Pros with Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD Master Audio decoders are available this unit can transmit those signals digitally in their native format. The unit also has a new DTS logo on it, but according to DTS the PS3 doesn't include full decoding capability for DTS-HD or DTS-HD Master Audio. A DTS rep did tell me that because PS3 is an open achitecture that a future software update to accommodate the new codecs is a possibility.

While the PS3 does support and playback SACD, there are no standard analog outputs from PS3. There is "AV multi out" that has analog audio and video capability, but this not a standard connection. It requires a "breakout" cable at the PS3 end, and at the other end the only diagrams Sony showed revealed two-channel RCAs at the. I'm not sure if this means that SACD playback is limited to two-channel, and again, I'm waiting to hear from Sony on this. HDMI 1.3 does support SACD transmission, but it's not known if the PS3 supports this or if any AVRs or pre/pros in the market currently support SACD via HDMI.

(full article)

confusion reigns, especially since there's no content to test with - discontent results.
post #46 of 548
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Originally Posted by shamus1099 View Post

I thought the PS3 does decode everything?

No, it doesn't. As I said in the lengthy post above, the significance of the PS 3 having HDMI 1.3 is that it supports external decoding of these advanced codecs.

Read this review here about PS 3 audio. http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,127892/article.html

"The minutiae of the PS3's audio settings are even less clear. Neither of the two BD Audio Output format options--Linear PCM (the default) and Bitstream--is explained. I had to go to Sony directly to find out.

"The PS3's default is to convert recognized audio streams to Linear PCM, an uncompressed audio format, for output via HDMI or digital optical audio. This can be advantageous if, for example, you're outputting to an HDTV that has built-in speakers and decodes only Linear PCM. If you're using your own home theater receiver, though, you'll want to use the Bitstream setting: In this mode, the PS3 passes the audio "bitstream"--be it Dolby Digital, Dolby Digital Plus, Dolby TrueHD, DTS, or DTS-HD--through to your receiver via the HDMI or optical connector; from there, the receiver decodes the audio and outputs it to your speakers.

"If you go with the default and use HDMI for a source with 7.1-channel audio, you'll need to output to a device that can read Linear PCM at 7.1 channels to get the full benefit. If your disc has DTS-HD 7.1-channel audio, that audio will be output at 5.1 channels instead. If you choose the Linear PCM default but use the digital optical connection, you can have only 2- and 5.1-channel sound. The multi-A/V-out (either component or composite video) supports 2-channel audio only."

Notice the number of references to a receiver decoding or reading the output from the PS 3.

To keep this discussion on track - it's about the XR700 - the Blu-ray player and the receiver are in partnership. What the player doesn't do, the receiver has to do to produce the ultimate Blu-ray video-audio experience. The PS 3 is not a full-featured Blu-ray disc player - understandably so - so the receiver with which it is mated will have to do more things than the XR700 does. That may be true across the board - we may see an entirely new generation of HDMI 1.3 equipped receivers in the future that will perform more functions than the current generation.

Dana
post #47 of 548
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Originally Posted by drbonbi View Post




That may be true across the board - we may see an entirely new generation of HDMI 1.3 equipped receivers in the future that will perform more functions than the current generation.

Dana


Great post! So I guess PS3 owners need a receiver to meet it more than halfway? I guess that means waiting for an HDMI 1.3 receiver.
post #48 of 548
Dana,

do you have the matching Panny SB-TP1000 speakers with your setup as well. I would be interested in how good these are...

thanks,
Chris
post #49 of 548
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Originally Posted by Q of BanditZ View Post

Great post! So I guess PS3 owners need a receiver to meet it more than halfway? I guess that means waiting for an HDMI 1.3 receiver.

Thanks. Yes. And I don't think it will take long.

For more on the subject I recommend "HDMI Part 5 - Audio in HDMI Versions" written by Rodolfo La Maestra, the Senior Technical Director at HDTV Magazine. http://www.hdtvmagazine.com/articles...i_versions.php

Dana
post #50 of 548
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Originally Posted by Q of BanditZ View Post

Great post! So I guess PS3 owners need a receiver to meet it more than halfway? I guess that means waiting for an HDMI 1.3 receiver.

the way I understood this is that if Sony (I know big if...) provides a firmware update to the PS3 that supports these formats (e.g. converts them 7.1 LPCM like other formats), you should be ok with a receiver like the XR700... Is my understanding correct?
post #51 of 548
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Originally Posted by cglauner View Post

Dana,

do you have the matching Panny SB-TP1000 speakers with your setup as well. I would be interested in how good these are...

thanks,
Chris

Oh no. I broke the bank to get the BD10, the XR700 and a new 7.1 speaker setup suitable for an "intimate" home theater. (Read small.)

What I've read is that these speakers are intended to compliment the Panasonic Viera TH-65PV600A 65-inch plasma television. I'd be interested on an academic level but that's all. On the one hand, they are sold as a 5.1 ch setup although individual added speakers may be available. The innovative aspect is that there is no center speaker. With a 65" plasma TV, no wonder. So, Panasonic has created a virtual center speaker within the two front towers.

There's a write-up here about them. http://www.cnet.com.au/hometheatre/a...htm?ref=search

Dana
post #52 of 548
Dana, thanks for all your info! Can you give us a little info on your settings????(Since they are made to go together, I wish Panny would of put out a page for the proper settings)
What do you set the Dolby/DTS signal to in the player??? Bitstream or PCM.
Do you set all speakers in the player to large and delays to zero and let the receiver do the bass management?
For 5.1PCM titles(and after firmware...TruHD DTS-HD), will the receiver still do the bass management or will the player have to do it?
Regarding the future firmware, will the DTS-HD version be "high resolution" or "masters" or both?
Thanks again!!!
post #53 of 548
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Originally Posted by cglauner View Post

the way I understood this is that if Sony (I know big if...) provides a firmware update to the PS3 that supports these formats (e.g. converts them 7.1 LPCM like other formats), you should be ok with a receiver like the XR700... Is my understanding correct?


On paper, yes.
post #54 of 548
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Originally Posted by cglauner View Post

the way I understood this is that if Sony (I know big if...) provides a firmware update to the PS3 that supports these formats (e.g. converts them 7.1 LPCM like other formats), you should be ok with a receiver like the XR700... Is my understanding correct?

Chris,

I'm not sure that the decoder chips are on board. Sony is using the new Cell processor and they are getting a lot out of it already. Perhaps it's technically possible. And, if this was the only Blu-ray home theater player in the Sony lineup, I'd be more optimistic. But, I wonder what incentive Sony has to make the PS 3 a better Blu-ray disc player when Sony already has announced the BDP-S1 Blu-Ray player which they say will be available on or about Dec. 4 at a list of $1,000.

I think incorporating decent Blu-ray disc player features in the PS 3 advances the cause of Blu-ray. There are now 400,000 more Blu-ray disc players than there were a week ago. But, it isn't intended as a home theater component.

Dana
post #55 of 548
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Originally Posted by shamus1099 View Post

Dana, thanks for all your info! Can you give us a little info on your settings????(Since they are made to go together, I wish Panny would of put out a page for the proper settings)
What do you set the Dolby/DTS signal to in the player??? Bitstream or PCM.
Do you set all speakers in the player to large and delays to zero and let the receiver do the bass management?
For 5.1PCM titles(and after firmware...TruHD DTS-HD), will the receiver still do the bass management or will the player have to do it?
Regarding the future firmware, will the DTS-HD version be "high resolution" or "masters" or both?
Thanks again!!!

Ah. Enough of this global stuff. Back to the hands on workings of the BD10 - XR700.

Here's the deal. I connected the HDMI cable from the BD10 to the XR700. In the on-screen setup menu of the BD 10 (See pg. 23 of the BD 10 manual.) I set the HDMI Audio Output to "On." You are now done with BD10 audio settings! As the manual says "Note: If 'On' is selected, audio output from the 7.1ch AUDIO OUT terminal will match the number of channels on the equipment connected with HDMI."

The settings on page 22 of the BD 10 Manual - bitstream, etc. - have to do with Digital Audio Out (coax or optical) only. You can ignore all other settings if you are connected by HDMI audio. The XR700 will be where you will want to make your speaker settings.

We just don't know the detail about the forthcoming firmware.

Dana
post #56 of 548
Interesting... Its almost like the two devices become one.
post #57 of 548
Does anyone know if the XR700 transcodes component video to HDMI output? This would be a must for me.

Thanks.
post #58 of 548
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Originally Posted by m@rkus View Post

Does anyone know if the XR700 transcodes component video to HDMI output? This would be a must for me.

Thanks.

It does not. Page 16 of the Manual says " The input video signal can be sent out through an output terminal of the same type only."

Dana
post #59 of 548
Thanks for the quick reply.
post #60 of 548
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Originally Posted by drbonbi View Post

The settings on page 22 of the BD 10 Manual - bitstream, etc. - have to do with Digital Audio Out (coax or optical) only. You can ignore all other settings if you are connected by HDMI audio. The XR700 will be where you will want to make your speaker settings.

Dana, Im still a little confused on this. Wouldnt you still have to tell the player what you want it to decode???? (for example: DD+, you cant send that bitstream as the the receiver cant decode or even pass it with this HDMI. Now if its switched to PCM, the player would decode it and pass it via HDMI. And regarding standard DVD DTS/DD I would think you would want it set to bitstream so the receiver can decode it and extract 6.1/7.1. I believe the player can only decode 5.1) Maybe Im not understanding this... could you give us a quick lesson?
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