Originally Posted by shamus1099
Thanks. This really sounds like a great product and a good solution till the whole 1.3 thing if figured out.
Any more impressions from you would be great!!!
I think HDMI 1.3 is going to make the situation for the consumer more complicated. Here's the spec from Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDMI
"Released 22 June 2006. 
" * Increases single-link bandwidth to 340 Mhz (10.2 Gbps)
" * Supports 30-bit, 36-bit, and 48-bit (RGB or YCbCr) color depths or over one billion colors, up from 24-bit in previous versions.
" * Supports xvYCC color standards.
" * Incorporates automatic audio syncing (lip sync) capability.
" * Supports output of Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD Master Audio streams for external decoding by AV receivers. TrueHD and DTS-HD are lossless audio codec formats used on HD DVDs and Blu-ray Discs. If the disk player can decode these streams into uncompressed audio, then HDMI 1.3 is not necessary, as all versions of HDMI can transport uncompressed audio.
" * Availability of a new mini connector for devices such as camcorders.
" * PlayStation 3 is the first product available on consumer market with HDMI 1.3."
Note particularly subparagraph five. At the moment when we want to know whether a high def device supports decoding of Dolby TrueHD and/or DTS-HD, we look to the player. When HDMI 1.3 connections are supported by both players and receivers, it will resemble a shell game. Which one decodes what?
In my opinion, the reason the PlayStation 3 does incorporate HDMI 1.3 is that Sony did not want to support decoding these new formats on the PS 3 so it offloads them via HDMI 1.3. But, since no receiver currently supports HDMI 1.3, there is no support at all for these new codec formats for PS 3 owners.
Early into this high def disc era, information is sketchy. One thing I liked about the BD10-XR700 combo on the audio side is that Panasonic makes the straight out assertion that Dolby Digital Plus will work. http://panasonic.co.jp/pavc/global/b...onvenient.html
"8ch Linear PCM Input through HDMI
"The DMP-BD10 decodes the Dolby® Digital Plus format's 7.1-channel surround sound signals, converts them to linear PCM, and outputs them through an HDMI terminal. The SA-XR700 receives these signals through its HDMI terminal and digitally amplifies them to produce a dynamic 7.1-channel surround sound. Only HDMI-compatible products can unlock the full digital surround sound potential made possible by the huge amount of audio data on a Blu-ray disc."
And of course an added benefit is that there is just one manufacturer involved. It is all too easy otherwise for one manufacturer to point to the other and claim that it's the other component that is at fault when things don't work.
Even so, there are conflicting statements in various Panasonic documents. For example, from the quote above, we learn that Dolby Digital Plus 7.1 is converted to LPCM for output via HDMI by the BD-10. But, page 9 of the BD10 player Manual says "When playing BD-video, only LPCM or
Dolby Digital Plus can be output as 7.1 ch."
On the same page it says
"Dual HDMI Input
"Equipped with two HDMI input terminals and one output terminal, the SA-XR700 can connect with both the DMP-BD10 Blu-ray Disc Player and another HDMI-compatible video component, such as an HD-broadcast set-top box
But, on page 7 of the XR700 manual we read
"The HDMI input terminal on the unit's rear is made to specifications that presume connection of a DVD recorder/DVD player. When other equipment is connected, sounds may not come out of the unit, or pictures shown on the equipment (TV) connected to the HDMI output terminal may be disrupted.
"In such cases, see page 19 and make connections other than HDMI."
And not everyone agrees as to what LPCM really is. But one definition is
"Linear PCM is an uncompressed audio format. It can have up to 8 channels of audio at 48khz or 96khz sampling frequency and 16, 20 or 24 bits per sample. It has a maximum bitrate of a huge 6.144 MB/s. It's also known as LPCM." http://www.afterdawn.com/glossary/terms/linear_pcm.cfm
Having said all of this, it is even harder to get confirmation from some other AVR manufacturers that their equipment can handle 8-channel LPCM via HDMI. There just is no mention of it.
Sorry about the length of the above. Corrections or clarifications are welcome.
PS. Apparently, both the BD10 and the XR700 have HDMI 1.2a.