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post #31 of 2539
I have my VX37L connected to my XP Media Center 2005 via the RGB connection. I am running 1366x768 and it looks crystal clear. I don't know about the overscan, but I have not explicity selected any overscan option. BTW my video card is a ATI Radeon 9600 XT.
post #32 of 2539
That is very promising. I would like to also know if a digital connection is available. Is the RGB (VGA) connection 1:1? AFAIK 9xxx series ATI cards will not output 1366x768, but only 1360x768 or 1368x768. Thanks for the info
post #33 of 2539
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by blstanle View Post

Need some actual user advice on this TV. I was about to pull the trigger on a 37" LG LCD because of all the really good reports related to its analog SD performance and sound quality. I keep coming back to this set because of the lower price and generally positive feedback. Based on the fact that I will only use this for Analog SD cable (COAX from wall to tv) and up-convert DVD player with the built-in speakers, would you still recommend it based on your SD and DVD experience? Thanks

Can't help with the LG comparison, but here is PCworld's top ranked 37" LCD Reading the review can be helpful when comparing with other set. Vizio happen to be number 1 on the list.
post #34 of 2539
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Originally Posted by cazual View Post

eddiedz:
what settings did you get using DVE? I am going to give that a try first, then once I order the spyder do a comparison.

alphabet:

sorry no cable card.

look up afew post and you'll see what i posted on my re-calibrated results from DVE. i got it nailed down for DVD's but for watching cable its always a toss up due to stations broadcasting, sometimes certain programs look really good, sometimes "ok"... HD however is ALWAYS!!! amazing! even the colors and brightness, everythings like 5x times better then my DVD settings. last nite i was watching the Matrix Reloaded on a HD channel(i think it was CityTVHD or CTV HD) and it looked beyond incredible! when i first started watching it i couldnt believe that it was in HD since the film was never really recorded with a HD camera and i didnt think the station could upconvert it so good, well i pop in my DVD copy of Reloaded and did a swap between DVD and HD box and HOLY ****!!! was there a big difference.. with the HD box i was able to pause so i would pause at a certain "close up" scene and then find it on the DVD and pause it.. switch between component 1 and 2 to see the difference.. everything even the colors looked a 10 times better on the HD channel then the DVD!!!!! i couldnt believe it, i never though stations could upconvert a normal film so good and make it look like true HD!


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Originally Posted by blstanle View Post

eddiedz:
Need some actual user advice on this TV. I was about to pull the trigger on a 37" LG LCD because of all the really good reports related to its analog SD performance and sound quality. I keep coming back to this set because of the lower price and generally positive feedback. Based on the fact that I will only use this for Analog SD cable (COAX from wall to tv) and up-convert DVD player with the built-in speakers, would you still recommend it based on your SD and DVD experience? Thanks

the SD content on the L37HDTV was "ok", however on the VX37L its much better, however im running SD off my Motorola DCT 6800 HD PVR and i have it set to upconvert 480i to 720p. SD looks just as good as my old sharp 27" tube if not better due to better colors and the 60hz refresh rate(progress scan too).

i was almost going to get the LG 37" also.. one thing that turned me off the most was the lack of a adjustable backlight which i found to be of the utmost importance in any LCD!!.. plus the price was to much.. i still find it selling for more then the Sharp Aqous 37"??!!!. its a nice/good TV but not worth the price.. not only is the vizio much less expensive, the unit itself is WAYYYYYY more stylish!!(sexy ass!!!!, love the glossy boarder)
post #35 of 2539
eddiedz

I found your posted DVE settings and I will see how they look. My one question for you is doesn't you Moto box have HDMI? I noticed from you posts that you watch television and did you calibrating using component.

P.S. what part of Ontario are you from. I live in NY now but I am from T.
post #36 of 2539
my Moto box only has DVI out, so i would need to get DVI-to-HDMI cables, i didnt bother i just picked up 6ft monoprice premium component cables. i used/using the "generic" component cables that came with the moto box for the DVD player. one of the two HDMI inputs are going to be used for the PS3, at the time i was going to get the L37HDTV which only has one HDMI, it was only afew days(literally) before i was going to make my purchase that i found out about the new VX37L model and how it had two HDMI, but by that time i had already picked up my component cables so rather then wasting them, and i didnt bother returning them.

i dont know how much of a improvement i'll get using the DVI out on the box, but i think its hardly going to be a improvement since TV shows are dependent on the broadcaster... you know how some shows look awful while others good ok, same for HD although so far in my experience(of only about a week) all HD programming is OUTSTANDING, i even notice some commercials are in actual HD!?(16x9 crystal clear).

p.s.
im not in ontario im in New Brunswick... out moto box sucks compare to the others, hell we cant even record one channel while watching another!?
post #37 of 2539
Last night I finally had to turn off the surround setting in the audio. I just couldn't hear people talking above the noise in the background. We were trying to watch a movie while our daughter was sleeping and to hear the voices we would have to turn it up too loud to hear them. Also, I tried locking the volume control on the Fios universal remote to the TV side and it disabled the mute functions for both cable and TV. The Vizio remote works great but my wife and daughter like the Fios remote. The cable side of the Fios remote can't control the volume though. So you have to switch to TV to control the volume and then switch to cable to mute it. I think I need a better code for the Vizio. Can someone give me a code they have used successfully. I am using 0030 right now.
post #38 of 2539
I have two Vizio's now, the P50HD and the VX37L. I am using a Vtech or Vid tech code and with both tv's my other brand remotes work just fine.
post #39 of 2539
dscpeon: this is off of Vizio's website: cable box codes- 1758; 0178; 10178; 627; 502

If you want to take a stab at the codes for the sat receivers here they are to: 1758; 1017; 0128; 0178; 10178; 11758; 627; 502

Hope this helps
post #40 of 2539
Thread Starter 
So far, nobody nobody has reported any problem that plague the L37.
Red Tint? Clicking Sound when turning on the TV? Low hum on speakers? TV automatically turning off? I wonder if the new model fix most of these problem or there's not enough new owner of this set yet.
post #41 of 2539
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Originally Posted by hiddenleavez View Post

So far, nobody nobody has reported any problem that plague the L37.
Red Tint? Clicking Sound when turning on the TV? Low hum on speakers? TV automatically turning off? I wonder if the new model fix most of these problem or there's not enough new owner of this set yet.

I have not experienced any of those problems with my VX37. Though I did experience a screen freeze on one of the HD channels last night. I changed the channel and the screen was fine. I don't know if it was the channel or the Vizio that was the problem. I do know that the PQ is best on the Discovery and HDNet channels. I have my VX37 set to eddiedz's settings and it is so realistic on those channels. I can stand 2 foot from the screen and not see any pixels. If I do this on some other channels I will notice some out-of-focus areas and some pixelation.

cazual: Thanks for the codes. I will give them a try.
post #42 of 2539
glad my setting worked.. i find they are outstanding for HD programs too.. with the DVD settings they look good too but no where near the HD stuff hahaha..

i havent experience any problems either.. i do get channel/broadcaster problems but rarely, for example very poor picture coming in or like dscpeon mention sometimes a program pauses and then loads again, i run a HD box so im expecting that stuff i know it cant be the Tv doing it since it only rarly happens and on certain channels.. i played several DVD's back to back for many hours and the tv perform flawlessly. my only small concern is my one bright green sub-pixel which Vizio already said they would replace but my address is not in the U.S. so they cant do anything right now.
post #43 of 2539
I am getting the clicking sound when turning on. It did that on the previous model too. Doesn't really concern me, as it's only one or two clicks before reaching perfect picture happiness!
post #44 of 2539
I purchased the Vizio VX37L last night at Costco, and the set is quite nice. This is my first HD TV, so I am a bit of a rookie when it comes to this stuff. I chose the Vizio because of the strong reviews and the Costco return policy (which they are changing January 1st). Anyway, I hooked up my dvd player using red, white, and yellow cables and the picture leaves something to be desired. I changed the settings to what was posted here, but the colors look washed out to me. Is this because I am not using component cables (I am going to pick some up tonight)? Also, it says that my dvd player is set to 480i, how do I change it to 480p? It is a sony that is a few years old. I am getting cable installed today through comcast and I will be getting HD with dvr, so hopefully the picture will be outstanding.

My second question involves surround sound. I hooked up my surround system yet I wasn't getting any sound. I went through the menu and turned off the VX37's speakers, yet still nothing. After several minutes of playing around with things, I discovered that you have to turn the speakers off in the menu AND turn the volume up on the set. It doesn't make any sense to me that you have to turn the volume up (about half way of the max) and have the speakers off. The surround setting that is on the vizio set is bad, background noises and music is LOUD and voices are very soft.

If anyone has any insight regarding both of my questions/concerns, let me know.

Thank you!
post #45 of 2539
betweenthepipes:

With you picture quality issues with your DVD player... you definitely should be using component cables. The yellow cable is an analog source which greatly affects picture quality.
With you DVD resolution issue the TV changes resolution based on the source it is getting, so you will need to change you DVD resolution settings (if it has one-refer to DVD manual) to out put in 480p. If for some reason you cannot change it time to buy a new one, there are a lot of inecpensive up converting DVD players.

Can't chime in on the sound issue as I have not purchased my new surround sound equipment. Someone else here on the thread should be able to help you.
post #46 of 2539
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Originally Posted by betweenthepipes View Post

My second question involves surround sound. I hooked up my surround system yet I wasn't getting any sound. I went through the menu and turned off the VX37's speakers, yet still nothing. After several minutes of playing around with things, I discovered that you have to turn the speakers off in the menu AND turn the volume up on the set. It doesn't make any sense to me that you have to turn the volume up (about half way of the max) and have the speakers off. The surround setting that is on the vizio set is bad, background noises and music is LOUD and voices are very soft.

If anyone has any insight regarding both of my questions/concerns, let me know.

I had to turn off the surround sound so I could hear the voices over the music and background noises. When you get your HD PVR from comcast you should use it's digital audio out to your receiver if the Vizio audio out doesn't work for you. This should work with component input but I don't know if this will work if you use an hdmi connection.
post #47 of 2539
Guys I just picked up the HD-DVD player add-on for the xbox 360 and watched King Kong (you get the movie free) and OMG, I am in heaven. You can really see the difference in PQ compared to a standard DVD player. In fact the studios that do a lot of CGI now have to up there skills because with the added PQ, you can now easily see what is CGI as it really looks fake. Its like the movies in the late 80s early nineties type of look or those low budget SciFI channel movies. Now it was only fake looking in a couple of scenes mostly water related, but out side of that OMG...did I say that already.
post #48 of 2539
cazual,

Thanks for the quick reply. If I use a set of component cables for the dvd player, will the vizio change the resolution settings from 480i to 480p on its own? I don't know how to change it on the my dvd player, and I do not have the manual (it is a couple of years old). Let me know.

Thanks,

Jeff
post #49 of 2539
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Originally Posted by cazual View Post

Guys I just picked up the HD-DVD player add-on for the xbox 360 and watched King Kong (you get the movie free) and OMG, I am in heaven. You can really see the difference in PQ compared to a standard DVD player. In fact the studios that do a lot of CGI now have to up there skills because with the added PQ, you can now easily see what is CGI as it really looks fake. Its like the movies in the late 80s early nineties type of look or those low budget SciFI channel movies. Now it was only fake looking in a couple of scenes mostly water related, but out side of that OMG...did I say that already.

You are going to have to stop that. You are making me want to get an HD DVD player!
I was looking at getting an upconverting player but after seeing what HD movies look like on HDNet I'm wondering if I should just wait for an HD player or just buy a cheap progressive scan.
post #50 of 2539
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Originally Posted by betweenthepipes View Post

cazual,

Thanks for the quick reply. If I use a set of component cables for the dvd player, will the vizio change the resolution settings from 480i to 480p on its own? I don't know how to change it on the my dvd player, and I do not have the manual (it is a couple of years old). Let me know.

Thanks,

Jeff

Yes, that actually should work. I know you are going to pick a cable today, but when you have to buy a bunch of cables you can't beat the price and quality of the cables from Monoprice.com.
post #51 of 2539
Well, I just had comcast out and they installed digital cable with DVR and HD channels. I still feel as though the picture is a bit washed out with the calibration settings provided. I am wondering how to get the best picture possible. Also, should I have the digital cable/dvr box set to output at 720p or 1080i? I watch a lot of sports and movies...let me know your thoughts.

Also, the guy set it up using HDMI and optical audio...all of which is the best you can do..i think.

Thanks.
post #52 of 2539
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Originally Posted by betweenthepipes View Post

Well, I just had comcast out and they installed digital cable with DVR and HD channels. I still feel as though the picture is a bit washed out with the calibration settings provided. I am wondering how to get the best picture possible. Also, should I have the digital cable/dvr box set to output at 720p or 1080i? I watch a lot of sports and movies...let me know your thoughts.

Also, the guy set it up using HDMI and optical audio...all of which is the best you can do..i think.

Thanks.

I first thought that the colors were washed out too, but I think it was because the normal mode is so vibrant it makes it look that way. The face colors now are better to me and the world isn't that colorful anyway.

I set the box to 1080i and I think it looks great. My thinking is that if the broadcast is 1080i then let my TV down convert it to my 1368x768 pixels instead of having it to upconvert from 720P with less data. If the broacast is 720P or 480i, then the 720P setting should work better. Those channels are not my favorites anyway. Try both setting to see what you think.
post #53 of 2539
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Originally Posted by blastmotor View Post

Quick question...

Has anyone tried hooking this up to a PC?

If so:

VGA or DVI-HDMI?
What resolution?
1:1 Mapping or overscan?

Thanks for the help!

I got the VX37 from Costco yesterday. Compared to the 37" Philips I returned, the color is not as natural but should be able to fix with some adjustment. I hooked it up to my HTPC with an ATI X800XL.

Using VGA connection I was able to get 1366x768 1:1. 1360x768 and 1280x720 also worked and produced no overscan. It looks really great as a PC monitor except for a slight phasing problem with analog VGA connection that I coulnd't get rid of. It'll show when you read texts. Anyone know if upgrading to a higher quality VGA cable will help?

I also tried DVI-HDMI connection. With it the max resolution I can get is 1280x720 and it produces overscan. So I wouldn't bother to use DVI-HDMI.
post #54 of 2539
Screw size to wall mount is 8/1.25/30.

I had to get that out of the way because trust me it was a process to run back and forth from my truck to get this information, I hope this saves someone some angst.

New owner - so far so good.

Prior L37 owner that is not experiencing the same known problems that were reported for the L37. Overall a solid build not as flimsy as the L37, good picture and no overscan when using 360 via VGA Cable at 1360x768.

HD DVD drive add on for the 360 looks and plays great. Much faster load times then my A1.
post #55 of 2539
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Originally Posted by cazual View Post

dscpeon: this is off of Vizio's website: cable box codes- 1758; 0178; 10178; 627; 502

If you want to take a stab at the codes for the sat receivers here they are to: 1758; 1017; 0128; 0178; 10178; 11758; 627; 502

Hope this helps

Code 627 worked for my Fios DVR remote and the VX37. Now when I am in the cable mode I can turn the TV volume up or down and also mute it. Thanks for the help. Its funny but while in the TV mode all the DVR functions work except for channel changing.
post #56 of 2539
I bought the l37 back in july at sams club and paid extra for the extended warranty etc.. Is it possible to take my l37 back to sams and trade it in for the newer model VX37L??
post #57 of 2539
I reccomend calling Sams and asking them that question. Ultimately, my understanding is that C* and S*will take back if your not satisfied.

Ultimately, most on this forum would direct someone to consumer ethics and policy abuse. It comes down to are you legitimately unhappy with the L37's performance, just want to upgrade or a little of both I imagine.

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Originally Posted by kyleharmon View Post

I bought the l37 back in july at sams club and paid extra for the extended warranty etc.. Is it possible to take my l37 back to sams and trade it in for the newer model VX37L??
post #58 of 2539
I've had the l37 since the beginning of september and I've been on the borderline between returning it and upgrading to the 37" aquos. The PQ on the l37 is acceptable but its the small things that all add up. The remote is horrible, the t.v. every now and then when i'm raising the volume all of a sudden goes into the menu screen, when you change the input it doesn't pick up the signal sometimes. What is this that I hear about costco changing their return policy on jan 1st? Thats a part of the reason I haven't returned this t.v. yet. I've been waiting for something better to come out, but if they're changing their policy then I will have to go return this soon.
post #59 of 2539
jgoh,

you will be "grandfathered" under the old policy. If you have purchased something before the policy change, then you are still covered under the old policy. No need to rush back and return it, they willl accept it after the jan 1st change because you are still covered under the terms in which you made your purchase.

Jeff
post #60 of 2539
Hey all - had to share this - and here seems like the right place.

Bottom line - I could have probably decided on, and purchased a new car quicker than a TV. We are looking for a set for our home office (my wife sits about 8 feet away - I'm closer). We have a 42" LCD rear projection set in our bedroom. My wife is at the point - that she doesn't really care what I do, as long as I do something (I KNOW that others are in the same situation). LOL

My "marching orders" are basically a 32" (or maybe 26") - and we want COSTCO because of their current return policy. OK - she then says that we COULD move the TV from the bedroom to the office - and get a new set for the bedroom (with as much trouble as I'm having with the office - the bedroom would probably have more options - not a good idea).

So - yesterday, we go to COSTCO separately. She was doing shopping - I was looking at TV's (she can't look at TV's because she doesn't have that much time.

So - last night - we're in the office - she asked me what I saw at COSTCO - told her I looked at the 32" sets was in and out - still clueless. I was interested in the Sharp - but they don't make their own 32" LCD's - I think they start st 37".

So, she says asked me if I saw the 37" Visio on the end cap as you walk in? UHHH, No - I"m only looking at sets up to 32". I then tell her if I can do 37", I can go back and look at the Sharp. Now, it appears that the main size issue is the size of the base. She then TELLS ME how great the Vizio looked - just like 3D. Note - she can't see that kind of difference on our bedroom set - never has.

Considering that Friday is Black Friday - I'm planning on going over there early in the week and checking it out. If it's the NEW Vizio - I'll pick up the 37", then I won't have to worry about the mobs, or returning it if there's a problem.

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