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post #1891 of 2184
12/18/07 at 9:09am
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Originally Posted by NoiseGoth View Post

My opinion is that if you're not also going to use the 360 primarily for gaming, then get a standalone. The add-on doesn't have the audio options (TrueHD, etc) of a standalone, and the 360 does make quite a bit of fan noise during HD-DVD playback.

I'd really only suggest the add-on to people who a) want 1080p, b) don't need the latest audio support, c) already have a 360 or were planning on getting a 360 anyways.

Note that the add-on will reportedly never support 1080p24, which sucks if you watch lots of films. Most stand-alones either support this or are expected to do so with firmware upgrades.

I don't regret purchasing the add-on, but I think in the future when the war is won and stand-alones are sub-$100, I'll be buying a new stand-alone player.

I sold My 360 and bought an A2, the Xbox has too many RROD issues t use as a standalone
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post #1892 of 2184
12/18/07 at 9:36am
why cant the add-on never support 1080p/24
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post #1893 of 2184
12/18/07 at 11:24am
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Originally Posted by hiwind View Post

Try signing out of xbox live and play movie, reading on other forums people say this worked. Why being signed in doesn't let you play bourne I can't tell you lol

Thanks but it didn't help. The disc won't even load it says its an unreadable format.
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post #1894 of 2184
12/18/07 at 11:24am
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Originally Posted by XM2G0 View Post

FIRMWARE UPDATE!

Just a suggestion, but when I popped mine into my 360 addon, it requested an update. Probably the same reason other posts on this thread are complaining about their players stopping reading discs. Could be wrong, but then again, I carry firmware update discs with me when we install players. Mainly a problem with BD, but who knows with HD-DVD.

I'm not getting an option to update the firmware. I haven't gotten one in a long time 6 months at least.
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post #1895 of 2184
12/18/07 at 12:06pm
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Originally Posted by dspezzano View Post

I'm not getting an option to update the firmware. I haven't gotten one in a long time 6 months at least.

Well you should have at this point. It seems like every few weeks I get a firmware update when I stick a disc in. I wonder if there is a setting you can go to to force one, or a setting that was accidentally set to not download them anymore.

I had a few problems with discs, but they all seem to work fine now. I would imagine it was from those firmware updates.
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post #1896 of 2184
12/18/07 at 12:08pm
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Originally Posted by MeasuredPath View Post

My bdp-1200 looks better than my addon simply because of my interconnects. My add on is using VGA versus HDMI on my bluray. Now with my sammy 4669f I can adjust my hertz settings except when in VGA anyone know how I can make my HD-DVDs pop in 3d like it does with my BR player

I'm really going out and guessing on this one since I don't have mine connected via VGA, but I thought there was a setting in the Dashboard to adjust the VGA hertz to certain presets.
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post #1897 of 2184
12/18/07 at 12:32pm
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Originally Posted by NoiseGoth View Post

My opinion is that if you're not also going to use the 360 primarily for gaming, then get a standalone. The add-on doesn't have the audio options (TrueHD, etc) of a standalone, and the 360 does make quite a bit of fan noise during HD-DVD playback.

I'd really only suggest the add-on to people who a) want 1080p, b) don't need the latest audio support, c) already have a 360 or were planning on getting a 360 anyways.

Note that the add-on will reportedly never support 1080p24, which sucks if you watch lots of films. Most stand-alones either support this or are expected to do so with firmware upgrades.

I don't regret purchasing the add-on, but I think in the future when the war is won and stand-alones are sub-$100, I'll be buying a new stand-alone player.

i am looking to watch movies more than gaming. since i am new to home theatre stuff, do u really think i am better off with a stand alone player?

thanks again,
-max
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post #1898 of 2184
12/18/07 at 2:01pm
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Originally Posted by maxval View Post

i am looking to watch movies more than gaming. since i am new to home theatre stuff, do u really think i am better off with a stand alone player?

thanks again,
-max

I think the add-on only makes sense if you already own an xBox 360. If you want to get an xBox for gaming, then go ahead with the add-on. But if the xBox is just going to run the add-on, get a dedicated player. The danger with the add-on is that it requires the xbox in order to function, so if your xBox dies (and they have a high failure rate), you won't be able to play your movies either. Really, I consider my xBox 360 HD DVD add-on only a temporary solution that because I already owned an xbox allowed me to get into the high-def game for cheap. My permanent solution is to purchase a combo player like Samsung's BD-UP5000 once the prices fall below $499.

Hope that helps.
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post #1899 of 2184
12/18/07 at 4:04pm
Got a BIG HD DVD update tonight. Anyone know what they updated?
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post #1900 of 2184
12/18/07 at 4:13pm
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Originally Posted by slumpey326 View Post

why cant the add-on never support 1080p/24

Meh... I thought I read that in the forum recently, but I can't find it now so I must have been mistaken.

I'll amend my statement by saying that the add-on has yet to support 24fps, and in my opinion never will. I cannot confirm or deny that the hardware is capable of producing such a signal.

Sorry if I added confusion to the ongoing 24fps question.
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post #1901 of 2184
12/18/07 at 4:19pm
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Originally Posted by maxval View Post

i am looking to watch movies more than gaming. since i am new to home theatre stuff, do u really think i am better off with a stand alone player?

thanks again,
-max

Absolutely. If you're not getting an Xbox to game with, then why spend $500 when a stand-alone can be had for less than $300?
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post #1902 of 2184
12/18/07 at 5:07pm
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Originally Posted by NoiseGoth View Post

Meh... I thought I read that in the forum recently, but I can't find it now so I must have been mistaken.

I'll amend my statement by saying that the add-on has yet to support 24fps, and in my opinion never will. I cannot confirm or deny that the hardware is capable of producing such a signal.

Sorry if I added confusion to the ongoing 24fps question.

In the Insiders' thread Andy mentions that adding support would technically be easy for the player side, the Dashboard would also have to support it and that's not something that is in the works. That's my paraphrase of it so check the Insiders' thread for a better/more technical explanation.
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post #1903 of 2184
12/18/07 at 6:33pm
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Originally Posted by A.VOID View Post

Got a BIG HD DVD update tonight. Anyone know what they updated?

Yup :-). If someone can tell me the version they updated to, I should be able to tell you what's in it. (Why don't I know the version you may ask? That's a different story).
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post #1904 of 2184
12/18/07 at 7:19pm
so i just connected my drive to a new hdmi xbox from a component/optical xbox and i get no sound from the hd drive on hd or sd movies. i get sound like normal on games and xbox dashboard but not in the hd drive at all.

when i boot up the xbox, the receiver reads dolby digital, but when i select hd drive at the dashboard it switches to pcm and i get no sound. i called xbox and they say call yamaha...any suggestions?
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post #1905 of 2184
12/18/07 at 7:41pm
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Originally Posted by crakerhead View Post

so i just connected my drive to a new hdmi xbox from a component/optical xbox and i get no sound from the hd drive on hd or sd movies. i get sound like normal on games and xbox dashboard but not in the hd drive at all.

when i boot up the xbox, the receiver reads dolby digital, but when i select hd drive at the dashboard it switches to pcm and i get no sound. i called xbox and they say call yamaha...any suggestions?

Check the Audio settings in the HD DVD player, maybe you have WMAPro set? If all else fails try connecting using the RCA outputs.
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post #1906 of 2184
12/18/07 at 8:11pm
I just got the update, it's version 2.0.4645.0
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post #1907 of 2184
12/18/07 at 8:46pm
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Originally Posted by online View Post

I just got the update, it's version 2.0.4645.0

Thanks, I posted the update details to my blog.

(I needed someone to confirm the version as my own Xbox here at home has "secret sauce" and downloaded the update a while ago, so I can't use that to tell when the updates go public).
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post #1908 of 2184
12/19/07 at 7:08am
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Originally Posted by Loxias View Post

In the Insiders' thread Andy mentions that adding support would technically be easy for the player side, the Dashboard would also have to support it and that's not something that is in the works. That's my paraphrase of it so check the Insiders' thread for a better/more technical explanation.

i agreee with you guys. went out and got an a35. thanks everyone and happy holidays!
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post #1909 of 2184
12/19/07 at 11:28am
Just to follow up I return the Bourne DVD and got my 3rd copy and this time it worked flawlessly and I even got a firmware update on the 360.

I've come to the conclusion that this combo format sucks and I will stick with Blu-Ray whenever possible until these issues are resolved.
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post #1910 of 2184
12/19/07 at 12:19pm
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Originally Posted by dspezzano View Post

Just to follow up I return the Bourne DVD and got my 3rd copy and this time it worked flawlessly and I even got a firmware update on the 360.

I've come to the conclusion that this combo format sucks and I will stick with Blu-Ray whenever possible until these issues are resolved.


Yeah that's what I do, and usually the Blu ray in that case will be $5 cheaper too.
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post #1911 of 2184
12/19/07 at 3:41pm
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Originally Posted by spark1135 View Post

I'm sorry if this has been answered before but my xbox has HDMI and so does my reciever (onkyo 705).

If I hook up my 360 HDMI into my reciever I will be able to get digital surround audio from the HDMI connected HD dvd add on correct?

I just read somewhere that the HDMI connection doesnt support digital audio for the HD DVD add on, but that can't be right...

the xbox transcodes whatever audio stream you select on the disc into whatever audio format you select on the AO's advanced menu. it will never output TrueHD or DD+ as such, to be recognized by your 705.

what happens is: you pick a track (say, truehd). the AO transcodes that track into DD, DTS, or WMA9Pro, depending on your selection in the AO advanced menu. Your receiver will then get the one you selected - DD, DTS, or WMA9Pro. This happens for all tracks on all hd dvds all the time. it cannot output the bitstream DD+, THD, or DTSHD tracks. It also cannot output PCM, which is what most standalones do, and is also lossless. with the AO, all the HD audio "extras" of your 705 are pretty much wasted.
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post #1912 of 2184
12/19/07 at 5:37pm
Alright guys question. When I am watching a movie on my Xbox add-on it seems to jitter every once in a while. I myself think that this is unexceptable and dont see how anyone else isnt bothered by it.

So I am assuming that not everyone is having this problem. I have the xbox elite connected by HDMI. It is always something slight I am sure I dont notice every time it happens but I see it when ever there is a big fighting scene.

Is there an update or should I return mine and get a new one. Does anyone know anything on this issue?
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post #1913 of 2184
12/19/07 at 5:43pm
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Originally Posted by crakerhead View Post

so i just connected my drive to a new hdmi xbox from a component/optical xbox and i get no sound from the hd drive on hd or sd movies. i get sound like normal on games and xbox dashboard but not in the hd drive at all.

when i boot up the xbox, the receiver reads dolby digital, but when i select hd drive at the dashboard it switches to pcm and i get no sound. i called xbox and they say call yamaha...any suggestions?

so i just called yamaha (mfr of my receiver) and they said that i need to get my xbox to go to 2channel pcm output bc my receiver is a 1st gen with hdmi passthrough. anyone have suggestions of how to do this? i called xbox and they had no idea what i was talking about
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post #1914 of 2184
12/19/07 at 8:25pm
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Originally Posted by MomboX View Post

Alright guys question. When I am watching a movie on my Xbox add-on it seems to jitter every once in a while. I myself think that this is unexceptable and dont see how anyone else isnt bothered by it.

So I am assuming that not everyone is having this problem. I have the xbox elite connected by HDMI. It is always something slight I am sure I dont notice every time it happens but I see it when ever there is a big fighting scene.

Is there an update or should I return mine and get a new one. Does anyone know anything on this issue?

Your television wouldn't happen to be a Samsung LN-TXX71F or a Sony Bravia XBR with the 120hz would it? These televisions have a feature that attempt to make motion more fluid by creating additional frames between the original ones; Samsung calls it Auto-Motion Plus and Sony calls it Motionflow. I ask because this feature does not play nice with the xBox add-on, and will cause the kind of jittering you're talking about. If that's the case, then turn that feature off. If you don't have one of these televisions, then I can't help ya
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post #1915 of 2184
12/19/07 at 8:27pm
so uh i have the hd dvd drive here, i brought it back home from school. my problem is that i'm using my brothers xbox rather than my own, which is the one i installed the hd dvd disc on.

now i wont have my xbox for a month and need a way to get that disc installed on this xbox somehow.

i know for a fact something is off because i just tried playing Syriana and there are no HD DVD interactive options available at all.
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post #1916 of 2184
12/20/07 at 12:36am
Well I dont have the 71F or the XBR sony but I do have the A3000 sony which still has the motion flow. Problem is that I always have the motionflow turned off so that cannot be the problem.

I also just checked Bourne Identity using both motion flow and no motion flow and it still had the jitters. That is my 4th HD-DVD to have the problem I am going to return the player on friday and try a diff one.
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post #1917 of 2184
12/20/07 at 8:26am
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Originally Posted by crakerhead View Post

so i just called yamaha (mfr of my receiver) and they said that i need to get my xbox to go to 2channel pcm output bc my receiver is a 1st gen with hdmi passthrough. anyone have suggestions of how to do this? i called xbox and they had no idea what i was talking about

Which Yamaha receiver do you have?
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post #1918 of 2184
12/20/07 at 9:55am
I am sure this has already been answered but cant find the answer when I search for it. I have the add on for the 360 and want to update the firmware can I the ethernet into the back and it will update or do I need to do something else?
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post #1919 of 2184
12/20/07 at 9:59am
john19,

As far as I am aware, firmware updates download automatically when you boot your 360 (as long as it is connected to the internet). A pop-up menu will appear and tell you that an update is needed. If you have already done this, then your firmware is up-to-date.
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post #1920 of 2184
12/20/07 at 10:14am
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Originally Posted by The5thAce View Post

john19,

As far as I am aware, firmware updates download automatically when you boot your 360 (as long as it is connected to the internet). A pop-up menu will appear and tell you that an update is needed. If you have already done this, then your firmware is up-to-date.

Thank you I have never hooked it up the to the internet. I will do that then and see what happens.
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